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osu got it handed to them mich. handed it to fl and tenn got lucky and escaped with the win over wi

now i know i am going to here it about what i said about tenn/wi you cant tell me that tenn was in total control hey i dont care cause i love football
but until they get rid of the bcs bull it will be the same every year

me i thought it should have been ks playing hawaii because of there records but hawaii proved there not worthy

i also saw that after getting beat by mich fl is still ranked higher now thats what i call bcs bullchit

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This stuff is great! You can't even make this stuff up. From still fighting the civil war to "low caps" mud slinging. A group of AMERICAN YOUNG MEN PLAYED ANOTHER GROUP OF AMERICAN YOUNG MEN. One group won, one lost. It's a "GAME" folks. GOD BLESS THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, & WEST - UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Congratulations to all the "AMERICAN" young men from LSU & Ohio State.

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Originally posted by reddogg68
Here is some info I found interesting.The NFL has 264 SEC players from 12 teams and the B10 has 236 from 11 that is 22 per team and 21.5.Since 1998 head to head SEC 17 B10 16.When SEC was home SEC 4 B10 0.When B10 was home B10 3-SEC 2 .In bowl games B10 13 SEC 11.When B10 was higher ranked they were 6-6 When the SEC was higher ranked B10 was 5-4.Really this is closer than most people think.Good Luck to both teams and fans have a safe trip.

These numbers were from before the bowls so theyve changed alittle but still they are fairly close.Probably closer than most think and people will say they are false.

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Originally posted by favre4
LSU did win plain and simple and as i say lsu fans should be proud.As far as scheduling osu has to play the big ten schedule and can't change that.They could and should schedule tougher non conference teams.I would not call the non conference games that lsu scheduled tough either.middle tennessee 5-7,tulane 4-8,louisiana tech 5-7.At this time the big ten is down and thats a fact.This is also a fact the weak big ten has three teams that have won more than 5 national championships(OSU-7 MICH-7 MINNESOTA-6)the SEC only has one alabama-11.

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Originally posted by fatboy77
osu got it handed to them mich. handed it to fl and tenn got lucky and escaped with the win over wi

now i know i am going to here it about what i said about tenn/wi you cant tell me that tenn was in total control hey i dont care cause i love football
but until they get rid of the bcs bull it will be the same every year

me i thought it should have been ks playing hawaii because of there records but hawaii proved there not worthy

i also saw that after getting beat by mich fl is still ranked higher now thats what i call bcs bullchit

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white linebacker ???

Hey Rip, What's your point??

Rip

Rip,98 was the beginning of the BCS but you could go farther and they would be very similiar.If your referring to Beanie Wells he outran a safety and the rest of the defense.You are stupid to think the bowls mandated lower seed higher seed matchups.There are 6 BCS conference bowls and then at large bids.The Big10 and Sec had 2 teams but the SECs #2 team was not 1 of them the B10 #4 team played the SEC #2. the B10 #3 played the SEC#4 because the #3 was a BCS at large.If you choose to putdown someone elses thoughts and act like theyre stupid at least know enough to tell the truth.Every conference has their years the Sec is now but it changes often .The 80's and early 90's will do you no good it was not dominated by noone as several conferences won multiple titles.

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Speed and osu keeps getting brought up in the same sentence. I dont understand that. Let me explain something to those of you that are obviously hard headed. The fastest player in the country is Trendon Holliday. He does not play for osu or in the little ten. He plays for LSU in THEE SEC.

Next year the SEC will win the national title game AGAIN!!!!! We need just alittle competition.......

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Next year the SEC will win the national title game AGAIN!!!!! We need just alittle competition.......

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Originally posted by Vic Stoll
This stuff is great! You can't even make this stuff up. From still fighting the civil war to "low caps" mud slinging. A group of AMERICAN YOUNG MEN PLAYED ANOTHER GROUP OF AMERICAN YOUNG MEN. One group won, one lost. It's a "GAME" folks. GOD BLESS THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, & WEST - UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Congratulations to all the "AMERICAN" young men from LSU & Ohio State.

P.S.-And may God help us poor folks that hunt Blue Dogs! LOL

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Originally posted by reddogg68
Rip,98 was the beginning of the BCS but you could go farther and they would be very similiar.If your referring to Beanie Wells he outran a safety and the rest of the defense.You are stupid to think the bowls mandated lower seed higher seed matchups.There are 6 BCS conference bowls and then at large bids.The Big10 and Sec had 2 teams but the SECs #2 team was not 1 of them the B10 #4 team played the SEC #2. the B10 #3 played the SEC#4 because the #3 was a BCS at large.If you choose to putdown someone elses thoughts and act like theyre stupid at least know enough to tell the truth.Every conference has their years the Sec is now but it changes often .The 80's and early 90's will do you no good it was not dominated by noone as several conferences won multiple titles.

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I also noticed something else, true to form the little 10ers have once again disappeared.

Next year we the Big 10 and SEC will have been "equal last year" again to some of the little 10 history revisionists and we will start all over again even though it was once again complete and total domination on the field.

Speed kills, SEC has it, little 10 wishes it had it.

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Football is over and Rip should work for espn, he knows EVERYTHING....

You want to talk about national titles,let talk HAWKEYE WRESTLING......LOL

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Hey, isn't playing athletics in college a way for people to get a scholarship so they can get an education they would otherwise not normally have a chance to get.

Have we lost the student in the student athlete? For every 1000 engineers or doctors produced by a Big 10 school the SEC gets the following: One pro draft pick, twelve McDonalds employees, forty seven welfare recipients and 940 guys that can run a 4.1 forty that can't spell their name much less pass an underwater basket weaving course without the help of a tutor.

Those stats from reddog68 are that way cause the guys from the SEC can't read, much less understand an NFL playbook and they need the Big 10 guys to translate it for them.

What you got RIP?

Chris, you notice the SEC has their share of NFL players.

Tennessee was actually # 1 in active NFL players not too long ago, not sure if they still are or not.

Reddogs stats were compiled by little 10ers specifically to exclude that 2-3 year run the SEC had going like 17-1 in bowls. It's not coincidence those years are left out.

The little 10 doeth protest too much. They all cry and claim it's not true that the SEC has so much more speed than the little 10, yet their champion tOSU would have likely finished 4th or worse in the SEC by any objective observer.

The big reason the little 10 has so many players in the NFL is cause linemen don't have to be fast.

Then they have the SEC players at the SKILL positions in the NFL cause of that speed, speed SPEED BABY.

In all honesty there is some speed in the big 10, Tim Dwight was awesome. The difference is the big 10 schools have 1 or 2 of them per team. The SEC schools have a whole team full of them on both sides of the ball.

BTW, lest you forget it was Katz for tOSU (MLB I believe) that had the ACTUAL BASKET WEAVING CLASS. Yep he sure did. Caused a big stink but he still played.

LMBO.

And yes, I do happen to have a good memory.

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RIP ,Your ignorance amazes me .My stats were from the SEC football website.Your statements on bowl selections are way off base look on the leagues website.Miami,Ohio State,Florida State,Tenn. and Georgia are 1-5 in that order.I hope you know more about coonhunting than you do the history of football if not youre in trouble.My stats were for the BCS era but I did go back another 18 years for you and the SEC had 3 national champs in the extra 18 years but there were 3 schools who had that many in the same era.

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Reddog, you just have a problem with reading COMPREHENSION.

I said USED TO BE, it wasn't many years ago either.

At that time it was Tennessee, Miami 1 and 2 for # of NFL players and the SEC was by far the #1 conference. If the little 10 has caught up a little in recent years congratulations they must have had lots of linemen retire LOL.

The bowl selection thing is 100% bonafide truth. Many SEC fans were upset about that when it occured but we were proud that the HAD TO DO IT to increase the competitiveness of games. They had many articles in the papers the year they did it and many were upset (most of us are die hard traditionalists and liked the SEC champ always going to the Sugar Bowl to play another conference champ.)

Now I may be a year or two off but I think those bowl years that they only lost one game were either 95-97 or 96-98 and your stats were CREATED SPECIFICALLY TO EXCLUDE THOSE YEARS after the little 10 was hammered about always losing to the SEC and PAC 10.

Nebraska was the only team to beat an SEC team in a bowl game during that stretch and somewhere around there they beat Florida and Tennessee. Not sure which one of us it was to keep us from being perfect, just assumed it was Tennessee. Now that's not one game from perfect for one year but for at least TWO years and maybe THREE (been a long time since I looked it up),

Also at one time the SEC had something like 8 out of the top 14 teams on the All Time Bowl Wins list, Bama was #1, Tennessee #2 and USC #3. USC was close to Tennessee and has most likely passed us with Tennessee's recent down turn. Neither one of us was close to Bama.

Heck if you want to claim BCS championships then you got Tennessee, LSU X2, Florida (hope I ain't leavin anybody out). If you want to go back 15 years then you got Tennessee, LSU X 2, Florida X 2, Alabama, and Auburn. That's 7 out of 15 years. Pretty dang dominant if ya ask me.

I was planning on laying off you little 10ers after the game but you guys never could come back and say that the SEC is the best conference in the land so I changed my mind.

Just admit it, the SEC is the dominant conference in College Football.

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BTW, it's you that is ignorant of the bowl selection process.

Now it's not where they finished like it used to be.

Now the # beside the pick means just that, the # of choice.

In other words the Sugar had the FIRST PICK but instead of doing the traditional thing and picking the team that finished first in the SEC they picked Georgia, who finished #3 because LSU wasn't available. But even if they HAD been available they were not obligated to take LSU and could have picked Georgia.

It used to be the bowls were forced to pick the team that finished where they picked. If they had the 3rd pick then they HAD to take the 3rd place team from that conference.

It's not that way any more, matter of fact Tennessee went to the Peach Bowl a couple of years in a row when they finished 2nd in the SEC, and the number said SEC #5 or whatever pick they are. They got the SEC 2nd place team (we got our butts kicked both times too BTW, but it wasn't a little 10 school LOL).

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Okay Rip this will be my last response to your BS.I went clear back to 1968 -40 years and here is the National Champs by conference.The BIG 12 has the most with 33 now there were many years where there were no unanimous champs so I counted all of them.The SEC and the teams that now makeup the ACC had 19 each the Big 10 had 16 and the Pac 10 13.These numbers wont be beleivable to you so look them up yourself or maybe with your vast expanse of football knowledge youll already know it all .LOL.This is hardly domination also the top 2 teams were Nebraska with 11 and Miami with 8.Also the exception on the Bowl tie-ins is as follows the bowl can bypass a higher ranked team and select a lower if 1-The team in question does not have the following or fan base to fill the ticket requirements or 2 they played their the previous year or if a different selection gives a rivalry game to the bowl.

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You are right Rip

The NFL needs linemen.

Most of the time they are the smartest guys on the team. They have to understand more than a, "Skill" player will ever have to about the game of football.

Answer my question you overzealous windbag.

Does the SEC care about the student? Or just the athlete? Those bowl games bring in a lot of money. A grad student cant write enough grants to make up for that kind of income.

I want to know how the SEC fares in GPA. And you can't count Vandy.

They fair just as good as the little 10. They are comparable in GPA and graduation rates. The SEC requirements for staying in school/GPA/HSGPA are more strict than the NCAA's standards. If the Little 10 uses the NCAA standards then they too are indeed LOWER than the SEC.

After all it was tOSU with Andy Katz taking BASKETWEAVING for credit.

(I would guess that the little 10 has stricter standards than the NCAA too, but I don't know that).

BTW, we can count Vandy, they are in the SEC, just like you can count Perdue or NW.

You guys just crack me up.

Reddog, you guys took the arguement from dominating college football to national championships. The two are definately NOT the same. NC's are based on voting and popularity, not on the field wins.

I can understand why you did it, I mean it's all you got when you see the SEC on the field acheivements in the bowls etc, but still.

LMBO

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