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I say "Knock em' out john!" And as far as if you knock em all out there wont be any in the future, in my personal opinion thats a load of crap. They get thicker every year, destroying more crops and property. Face it, theres alot more coon than hunters, so knocking just one out a year isnt controlling the population. Ask this same question to any deer, turkey, duck hunter, etc. How many of them say I just go out to watch the animals? Its HUNTING! Thats my opinion, I aint gonna tell anyone else there wrong for what they believe and dont want to start an argument.

you right henderson knock'em out

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Originally posted by fullhouse
If you have a dog that needs a bunch of coons, you are shooting the wrong animal.

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Yall have lost it LOL!!!!! Come down here and knock em all out and they will be gone. Heck we aint hardly got any as it is...

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I usually only kill a coon for a young dog thats done well.If the young dog is just there it dont get any.As for shooting a dog 95% accurate thats hogwash.I have hunted 25 years and my buddy 60 and neither one has had a dog more accurate than that it may seem like it but keep records and youll see.The female I have now is the most accurate ive ever owned and she has hit 31 of 32 trees but dont do that all the time .She hit 91.7% one season and I was tickled to death.I remember the time when you had to hunt hard to find a coon and I dont ever want to see those days again leave some for tomorrow.

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Originally posted by J_Henderson3
I say "Knock em' out john!" And as far as if you knock em all out there wont be any in the future, in my personal opinion thats a load of crap. They get thicker every year, destroying more crops and property. Face it, theres alot more coon than hunters, so knocking just one out a year isnt controlling the population. Ask this same question to any deer, turkey, duck hunter, etc. How many of them say I just go out to watch the animals? Its HUNTING! Thats my opinion, I aint gonna tell anyone else there wrong for what they believe and dont want to start an argument.

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I would say that regardless of if the dog needs it or not, never shooting one out is kindof like having a really expensive shotgun hanging on the rack that you never shoot. And if your going to ruin it by shooting it to much you might as well throw it away and get one that will work. Although i will agree that a young dog can be hindered by shooting too many. They have to fully understand what lead up to that coon falling from the tree for it to do any good.

I think the answer to this one is pretty easy....... If you have the coon and want to knock them out then by all means go ahead. If you live in thin coon and want to leave them to run again then leave them sit.......



95 % of the time its not the dog that needs the coon but they person with the gun so they can brag to everyone about how many they killed this year.

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Originally posted by Richard Nethery
Right on! what would happen, if every other hunter, decided not to ever shoot game.
Wouldnt be safe to drive. LOL

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Originally posted by HOBO
I think the answer to this one is pretty easy....... If you have the coon and want to knock them out then by all means go ahead. If you live in thin coon and want to leave them to run again then leave them sit.......



95 % of the time its not the dog that needs the coon but they person with the gun so they can brag to everyone about how many they killed this year.

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We live in an area where the coon population is average. When we have a young dog that is showing he is worthy,we'll shoot one out for him/her. And even let the old dog have a taste. I feel if I have a coondog, it doesn't NEED every other coon to chew on.

The time for our pleasure hunting is when we are working our hounds. When we competition hunt, we're hunting the same places we pleasure hunt.

We don't harvest any coon to speak of other than a dozen or less a year. The fur market went to hell in a hand basket 25 years ago so I see no good reasoning to terminate the quarry we persue as a passtime. It has payed off for us by providing good hunting whether competition or pleasure.

I remember back in the late 60's and early 70's the coon populations were slim to none around here because of high fur prices and over-kill. We'll continue our practices and even try to pass them on to anyone who joins us for an outting. This way I don't have to move away from my family to places up north where the coon population is bursting with one in every-other tree. lol

When the day comes where I feel I need to fur hunt to provide the finances needed to own a hound I will quit.

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Originally posted by reddogg68
I usually only kill a coon for a young dog thats done well.If the young dog is just there it dont get any.As for shooting a dog 95% accurate thats hogwash.I have hunted 25 years and my buddy 60 and neither one has had a dog more accurate than that it may seem like it but keep records and youll see.The female I have now is the most accurate ive ever owned and she has hit 31 of 32 trees but dont do that all the time .She hit 91.7% one season and I was tickled to death.I remember the time when you had to hunt hard to find a coon and I dont ever want to see those days again leave some for tomorrow.

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If you ever had a dog that you couldnt break from deer, coyotes, or fox did you ever shoot one of those out to it? Probably not and i bet they still run them every now and then to!

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I agree Walkerman04
My best dog started treeing coons when he was 7 months old and I didn't shoot one out to him until he was 2 years old.He's 7 now and probably only had a dozen coon shot out to him his whole life and when I turn him loose he will get treed.

Young dogs do not, I repeat DO NOT need coons shot out to them!!! This is just like the myth that old dogs need them. I have some of the most accurate, natural young pups as I have every had. One pup is 13 months old and has treed over 50 coons by herself. She has never had one shot to her. If you have to kill a bunch of coons to todays pups to get them to tree and stay, you need to find a different line of dogs.

I just coon hunt any more and I don't put any thought into how many I should kill or not to kill. The farmers in this area hates the critters and wants them killed. They let me hunt if I kill them ( no more than one a tree) so I'll kill them. If my dogs can't handle this, then they should not tree them. Also around here if coons get to thick they do get sick and die.

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The big boys tell me shooting too many coon out to a young dog is a good way to ruin one. How does a hound act if they have had too many knocked out to them? Do they quit treeing, quit holding pressure, they won't hunt, start running junk, act stupid, the list goes on? I certainly don't want my young dog to start bad habbits this season if I show him twenty or so coon. If a hunter hunts 200 nights per year and knocks out a couple every time he goes will his dog quit treeing coon?

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Originally posted by blueticker
The big boys tell me shooting too many coon out to a young dog is a good way to ruin one. How does a hound act if they have had too many knocked out to them? Do they quit treeing, quit holding pressure, they won't hunt, start running junk, act stupid, the list goes on? I certainly don't want my young dog to start bad habbits this season if I show him twenty or so coon. If a hunter hunts 200 nights per year and knocks out a couple every time he goes will his dog quit treeing coon?

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TO EACH HIS OR HER'S THEY'RE OWN!

HERE IN MO. WHERE I LIVE IF WE DONT KNOCK'EM OUT TO OUR YOUNG DOGS WE'RE G0ING TO WAKE UP IN THE SAME SHAPE AS YA PEOPLE DOWN SOUTH!! IT AINT NOTHING TO SEE 6-7 RUNOVER ON THE ROAD! IT'S 10 MILES TO TOWN. WOULD YOU RATHER SEE DIESEASE WIPE'EM OUT OR LET A YOUNG DOG HAVE EM? DISTEMPER, RABIES, MANGE OR SOME OTHER. THANK THE LORD WE ARE OVER RUN WITH COONS!!!
IMO I AINT NEVER HURT NO DOG YOUNG OR OLD BY PUTTING TOO MANY OUT TO EM AS LONG AS THEY TREE EM ON THEIR OWN!

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If I lived up where yall so many.I probably shoot the heck out of them myself... We just cant dont have that many to begin with.Just because they tree the fire out of em at the winter classic dont mean its like that all over the state LOL........

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Originally posted by OLIVER JACKSON
Young dogs do not, I repeat DO NOT need coons shot out to them!!! This is just like the myth that old dogs need them. I have some of the most accurate, natural young pups as I have every had. One pup is 13 months old and has treed over 50 coons by herself. She has never had one shot to her. If you have to kill a bunch of coons to todays pups to get them to tree and stay, you need to find a different line of dogs.

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Agree %100

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Saline Creek Beau (Millers Midnight Harry, (Eads bred) x Beauty, Myers/ Sting bred) co owner Will Simpson
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When kill season starts I'll Kill them as my dog trees them,That is why they call it coon hunting. I kill 150 to 200 coon every year and they are thick as could be here.

If I had a dog that got slick the more coon he got ,HE WOULD NOT BE HERE LONG.

I watched a very nice 5 year old stop treeing coon for the mere fact he had to fight so many. The owner asked me what I thought the problem was. I told him to stop killing coon to him, a dog doesnt need coon killed to keep him interested. It worked. Keep the dog wanting more, shooting all your coon doesnt make a better dog, in any state. Keeping the dog motivated and interested shows better results than packing a gun out of season, killing everything it trees.
Ive noticed that pleasure hunters are harder on killing coon than a compitition hunter. The UKC or PKC hunter would rather have his coon to score on, they seem to be the better at conservation. Im saying the majority of them.
The amount of coon takin varies from different areas. If your a very populated coon area more need killed. Areas like TN, GA ect dont need the coon taken. So its almost a matter of opinion of how many coon need taken per season.
The mentality of kill kill kill doesnt interest me. I enjoy letting them run for another nite, but I will take a few during season. More in heavy populated areas. Good Hunting

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