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Originally posted by J.Grubbs
Rip, been running the hospital circuit, been tested had evey test 'ceptin heart worms and rabies.LOL I'd guess Johnson city area would be a little tough. I used to like the same type you're describing, now at 73 I gotta have one that "handles"
Side note. our "pleasures" in life do tend to change over the years.
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Thanks Rip, yes I think I'm gonna get O.K. the Drs. just found my insurance card I think and are trying to "max it out".LOL
As for the hunting around Spencer, I think I'm gonna just take your word for it. I travelled thru Cookeville and Crossvile area for a few years and if you found "plesure" hunting there you're tougher than me. LOL
plaesure; personaly i cant stand a dog that babbles and slick trees all the time.but if i had to put the boot to the dog all the time i would just get-rid off if. the next poll should be do you put the boot or switch your kids when they get a bad grade at school
Pleasure hound, not to take away from the Competition hounds.
But the Hound that leaves out, and you wont see again, till its treed, and will go as deep as necessary to tree a Coon, is not fun to pleasure hunt with.
Especially when you hunt most of the time by yourself, with one hound.
The hound that would be concitered a good pleasure hound, generally Checks in regularly, hunts close, and can be called off a track, or tree, whenever you want.
in other words hunts with you.
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How many times have you saw a dog in a hunt have to hunt by itself and cant do anything.Ive seen it quite a bit and that is a dog I wont hunt.My dogs are hunted by themselves regularly through the week.To many people call adog hunt ready when it will run and tree with other dogs.You dont have to see the coon to win in every registry.
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Reddogg68
Im not going to Say the hounds name, out of respect for the owner.
But I had a Nite Champion here on trial a Few Years back, She was tough in the nite hunts, Split treed alot, with the Coon.
Well I hunted that hound Five times by herself, and didnt tree a Single Coon with her.
I respectfully, and politely returned her to her owner.
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Richard.......
quote:that happens more than people think......
Originally posted by Richard Nethery
.... I had a Nite Champion here on trial a Few Years back, She was tough in the nite hunts, Split treed alot, with the Coon.
..... hunted that hound Five times by herself, and didnt tree a Single Coon with her.....
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After reading what most hunters are saying about the pleasure and competition hounds that they hunt or have hunted with, it is easy to see what most guys really want is a true pleasure hound with plenty of go power and the brains to go with it. Sombody made the statment that they only get to comp hunt a few times a year and that is probably tha same for most of us..But at the same time it is nice to have one that can and will hold its own in a cast of 3 or 4 dogs as well as by itself.. been great chatten wth you, I hope you all have a good hide season. Ron
Pleasure dog!
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most comp hunters and dogs i have hunted with i did not like even on a pleasure hunt they just have got to win
Most people pleasure hunt the most as I do. I want a dog that does what it takes to get it tree'd but won't run a mile to get struck. I prefer a hound that will check in if the coon are not walking. But I enjoy the competition as well.
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Pleasure/Competition
Would you rather ride a pleasure horse or a race horse? If you like riding horses, you'll likely choose the pleasure horse. If you're going to hire a professional jockey, or you are a professional jockey, you'll likely choose the race horse!!! One is not better than the other. They are just bred and used for different purposes.
Now, we've not reached that extreme a difference in coonhunting. But, we should consider it when breeding or buying a pup. We need to choose based on what works best for us. For me, that requires actually seeing how they operate!
We have so many different levels of competition hunting, so many different types of terrain, and so many methods of hunting hounds that there should be no fear that we'll ever have the extreme differeces of the horses. But, we need to pay attention to these differences, and the types of dogs that do the best for us in our own terrains
well I don't comp hunt
and I have a pleasure dog that suits me well. My red dog wouldn't be a great competition dog because he is very slow to open, very careful about switching to his tree bark, and very accurate. When I've put a light collar on him, I've seen him check the tree repeatedly before he decides its the right tree. He is the kind of dog that would lead the rest of the cast to the tree, then be the last to bark treed. But once he decides its the right tree, absolutely nothing (except me calling him off) will budge him until I get there, and I'm real slow. He may occasionally tree the wrong game, but there will be something in the tree, and I can tell by his voice if its not a coon. I don't need to tree six coons a night--my knees won't hold up that long in our steep terrain. But he is reliably good for a couple of drops alone with me, and that's what I need. I wouldn't mind having a dog that could competition hunt--with another handler. But, as a pleasure hunter, I don't need one that is first to strike and tree, so long as he stays put until I get there. I've been out as a spectator enough to know that lots of competition dogs will strike and tree before mine, but won't stay put if they're not the first to get scored. I don't need a dog that will lose patience with ME if it takes me an hour to get into the tree. I need a dog that adapts to the way I hunt..
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Competition/Pleasure!
For the average local hunter, we're talking about the same dog! They mostly pleasure hunt, but will enter competition (all with the same dog)!
Beyond that, there is a difference. No pleasure hunter wants their dog to strike a deer, separate themselves from the pack, then switch and lock-down by itself on a coon. A competition-only hunter may think that's great!!! A pleasure hunter will break, sell, or kill this dog. A competition hunter will win with it!
There are a lot of competition dogs that are worthless for coonhunting.
That said, there are a lot of so-called pleasure dogs that are lacking in abilities. But, because their owners like them, they accept these shortcomings!
There are competition dogs that aren't coondogs! There are competion dogs that are coondogs! There are pleasure dogs that aren't coondogs! There are pleasure dogs that are coondogs! The bottom line is what do YOU expect and DEMAND from a dog!!!
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