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Posted by Craig Edwards on 08-26-2006 02:29 AM:

John,

Thanks for the pictures and the comments. Great thread!!!!!! Hope things are going good for you, and your hounds.

Wasn't Echo a full brother to Blue Jean? I know there is a connection but I can't remember how.

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Posted by Voyd Cannon on 08-26-2006 02:45 AM:

Craig, yep he was a full brother to Jean.

Posted by John Carroll on 08-26-2006 03:28 AM:

The best Black and Tan I ever hunted with...Rick Day's Gr.Nt. Ch. Reba bitch.

Old Reba was quick as a snake on both ends, and a powerhouse tree dog.

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Posted by JIMHILL on 08-26-2006 04:48 AM:

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The Walker dog in the picture with belle here was a dog that my cousin owned out of House's Lawyer.

He was a good son of a gun, and could smoke a coon track. He also had about as pretty a long, keen bawl mouth as was ever hung on a Walker hound.

As you can see, he wasn't hard to look at either.

His name was Ruler--my cousin called him his "measuring stick."

We had a lot of fun hunting these two dogs together. Belle would tree a coon he couldn't open on in bad nights, but he was faster than her on a red hot coon. I never saw him outrun on his kind of coon track. He was a cutting, slashing track dog.

wow very nice lookin walker dog and blue dog at that

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Posted by John Carroll on 08-26-2006 05:06 AM:

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wow very nice lookin walker dog and blue dog at that

Jim, he was a top hound. A little hot nosed for my taste, but the sucker could run the hair off a coon.

A true story about this dog and old Belle.

My cousin that owned the Walker dog was actually my mother's double cousin, and was her age. So he was older than me and had been hunting all his life.

Belle had smoked his dog on a few occasions, especially when tracking was rough, and it galled him a little for me to beat him. I was just a kid to him.

Anyway, we were hunting a huge area called Bryant Holler. There were miles and miles of timber in there and not many roads.

Belle struck a bad track, worked it up a ridge and set down. I didn't like the sound of it much. She was normally super accurate, but I wasn't enthused about this tree by the way she was treeing. The Walker dog hadn't cracked a jaw. Of course, she had treed coons before that he couldn't open on.

We got there and it was just an old snag. We had an axe, and I knocked a hole in it.

There was an old dried up coon carcass in there from a coon that had been dead for weeks.

I pulled it out and told my cousin, "See, I told you she has a rough nose."

We had a good laugh out of that, I can promise you.

Old Ruler was the best hound my cousin had ever owned, and when he got old, Garland quit hunting. I think he figured he'd never get another of his caliber.

The dog was awful good.

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Posted by John Carroll on 08-26-2006 01:47 PM:

This is a pup I bought from Guy Ormiston when he was six weeks old. he was out of old Sheba and True Boy IV.

This picture was taken on one of the first trees he ever made as a puppy.

There were a couple of things about him that didn't exactly suit me, so I let a buddy have him, and he swapped him back to Guy and the Saylors boys.

He wound up breeding a lot of females down in that country. They called him July.

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Posted by John Carroll on 08-26-2006 01:52 PM:

This is one of the ones I miss the most, my old Nt.Ch. Meat, out of Ranger II and natural Blue Rose.

Old Meat was gun barrel straight and dead accurate. When he loaded up on the wood, cock the gun. he had a good nose, could tree a rough coon, and sounded like a hound.

This was the hound that really sold me on Uchtman breeding. I'd like to be able to bring the old man back and breed a couple of females to him, or even just hear him tree one more coon on a January night.

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Posted by John Carroll on 08-26-2006 02:08 PM:

The English female in this picture would have probably made an English man out of me had she not died so young.

She was out of a littermate sister to Penny's Dancin Disco, and was as natural a pup as I ever started. She had a good nose and could fly on a coon track. Her sire was a dog out of Hardtime Son.

A month or so after this picture was taken, I went out to get her one night, and she came out of her dog house, trotted up to me, and sagged over against my legs, dead with a heart attack. Weirdest deal I ever saw. She just stiffened up, and fell over.

I was some upset. Only a few months earlier, I had lost her mother to the highway one night running a coon.

I was a kid, and had no money...an old gentleman gave me Smoky River bred Blue dog, and I never went back to the English dogs again.

This female I named Sis after her old grandma, Lamb's Spring Creek Sis.

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Posted by Wayne Valentino on 08-26-2006 02:14 PM:

John

I'm liking the pics and short tales... Keep em comin !!!

Wayne

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Posted by John Carroll on 08-26-2006 02:19 PM:

The old Black dog here was nothing special. He was out of Smithhurst's Hardrock.

But the man was special. This was my old pastor, the man who gave me my first hound, and took me hunting a lot of nights when I had no other way to go.

I will always be grateful to this old gentleman.

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Posted by John Carroll on 08-26-2006 02:20 PM:

Re: John

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I'm liking the pics and short tales... Keep em comin !!!

Wayne

Thanks, Wayne.

Of the ones I have posted so far, which one do you like best?

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Posted by jstrow on 08-26-2006 03:00 PM:

nice pictures and story keep them coming.Do you have any pictures of the JIMMY dogs?

Posted by John Carroll on 08-26-2006 03:33 PM:

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nice pictures and story keep them coming.Do you have any pictures of the JIMMY dogs?

This is a Jimmy II bred dog I had. I gave a big price for him, and he was nice.

I ended up killing him after he turned four years old because he got ill natured.

I didn't do it to this one, either. He was a top hound though. Powerhouse tree dog, and loud.

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Posted by John Carroll on 08-26-2006 03:38 PM:

Here is kind of a poor picture of a Jimmy bred bitch I liked pretty well. She was a hard hunting sow and an all night tree dog.

Her biggest hole was that she was funny turned, and didn't like to tree with another dog. If something else got first tree, she would sull up and not get treed with them.

I have seen her quit a coon track because another hound covered her. She would blow out of the country and you'd have to go looking for her.

I wound up selling her. I don't know what is going on with her now.

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Posted by huntingnick on 08-26-2006 05:20 PM:

John i met your old buddy Shawn Gillespie last night at the football game at westville. He is now the principle at westville jr. high. Would you believe he was talking about coonhunting.

so far, of all the pics that you have posted, I like the pics of Belle the best.

Colt took Doc to a show yesterday evening, won the bluetick breed, but got beat in best of show by a english female(hard to believe isn't it.

you should put a book together with all the pics you have and your storys, title it (coonhunting in the hills of oklahoma.)

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Posted by Wayne Valentino on 08-26-2006 05:49 PM:

John

I like that Ranger II dog , Meat... Ole Chopper went back to Natural Blue Rose... I think so far as the older pictures he has been my favorite. You know Chopper II is my current favorite..

Posted by jstrow on 08-27-2006 02:12 PM:

nice looking dogs thanks

Posted by John Carroll on 08-27-2006 07:22 PM:

Re: John

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Originally posted by Wayne Valentino
I like that Ranger II dog , Meat... Ole Chopper went back to Natural Blue Rose... I think so far as the older pictures he has been my favorite. You know Chopper II is my current favorite..

You would have liked old meat in the timber, too.

He was all coon dog.

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Posted by John Carroll on 08-28-2006 01:50 PM:

Here were a couple of young dogs out of Albert.

The male on the left was out of old Nicky, a Ranger IV daughter who was also the mother of my Jewel female.

The female on the right was out of a daughter of Jimmy II.

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Posted by John Carroll on 08-28-2006 01:53 PM:

Gr.Nt.Ch. Uchtman's Blue Albert.

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Posted by John Carroll on 08-28-2006 02:01 PM:

Gr.Nt.Ch. Double Springs Echo.

Probably one of the most underrated and underutilized Blue studs of our time.

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Posted by John Carroll on 08-28-2006 02:15 PM:

Old Belle doing a good job on a bad night, parked under the groceries when everything else had come up a little short.

This old bitch was about as tough in bad conditions as anything I ever unsnapped.

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Posted by Chiggers on 08-29-2006 03:42 AM:

btt

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Posted by Darren barkman on 08-29-2006 04:09 AM:

I THINK RANGERVI AND ECHO ARE TWO OF THE BEST LOOKING BLUETICKS I HAVE LAID EYES ON NICE.

Posted by John Carroll on 08-29-2006 04:24 AM:

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I THINK RANGERVI AND ECHO ARE TWO OF THE BEST LOOKING BLUETICKS I HAVE LAID EYES ON NICE.

They sure were.

They were made different, but both beautiful hounds.

Echo was a tighter made, shorter coupled hound than Ranger, and not as big.

Ranger VI had a better head and ear, and a bigger mouth.

Ranger had a rougher nose than Echo, but I'd give Echo the edge in speed, but not by a huge margin.

They were both top hounds that never got the attention they deserved, ranger because of his health, Echo because Troy is more of a coon hunter than a dog promoter.

If one of the big time promoters would have had Echo, he would have changed the Bluetick breed as we know it, in my opinion.

But that's just my opinion, and you know what they say about those.

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