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tell that to the familys of the soldiers still geting killed in irac

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Originally posted by Skinner
He had to treat it as a law enforcement issue. He had to because US law said he did. Not everyone that was killed and injured, were military personal. I don't think you realize how many civilians were on the USS Cole. Do some research.

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National sercurity was not at stake, in Yemen.

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Jody Scott
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If I had feelings, that might would have hurt.

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Originally posted by Skinner
National sercurity was not at stake, in Yemen.

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Embassy bombings are bombing the USS Cole are two entire different subjects.

President Bill Clinton declared, "If, as it now appears, this was an act of terrorism, it was a despicable and cowardly act. We will find out who was responsible and hold them accountable". Some critics ......( and you really need to search who these 'critics' were.. skinners words added) ......have pointed out that, under U.S. law, an attack against a military target does not meet the legal definition of terrorism (see: 22 USC § 2656f(d)(2)).


22 USC § 2656f(d)(2)).
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/...56---f000-.html


Sorry I don't make the laws. Even Clinton himself thought it was 'terrorism'. Guess the 'critics' did'nt think so.

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Jody Scott
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If I had feelings, that might would have hurt.

Clinton vowed every time an attack occurred to bring the terrorist to justice, "To hunt down those responsible" Tell me again, how many did he catch?

Pg. 2

I read a thread earlier about how the 'liberals' and 'democrats' were out to take any shot to make bush look bad. I think he does a pretty good job at that himself. I don't need the 'liberals' or 'democrats' or 'republicans' for that matter to tell me bush has got us in a mess.

That one thread about the 'democrat super sub secret for your eyes only agenda' mentioned something about impeaching bush. I took at look into the future in my cyrstal ball. Final report of the motion to impeach bush=the fox has no idea nor explaination what is happening to the chickens.

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Jody Scott
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Black Creek Treeing Walkers

If I had feelings, that might would have hurt.

skinner I love this pic!!!!!!!!! I tells the whole truth about bush.

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You want to dodge the facts.

Since you obviously did'nt take time to read the links I'll spell it out here. We are talking about the bombing of the USS Cole.

Bill Clinton said he thought it was a act of 'terrorism'. 'Critics' said it was NOT an act of 'terrorism' according to the Law of The United States Of America. The law the 'critics' used was 22 USC § 2656f(d)(2)). which states:

(d)(2) the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents.

Jake I don't know what else to say. If you can't understand plain English what's left to say?

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GW is a compromiser.

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Jody Scott
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If I had feelings, that might would have hurt.

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Like talking to your dog about quantum physics

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Jody Scott
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Frogjump TN
Black Creek Treeing Walkers

If I had feelings, that might would have hurt.

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Originally posted by Skinner
National sercurity was not at stake, in Yemen.

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Originally posted by Skinner
You want to dodge the facts.

Since you obviously did'nt take time to read the links I'll spell it out here. We are talking about the bombing of the USS Cole.

Bill Clinton said he thought it was a act of 'terrorism'. 'Critics' said it was NOT an act of 'terrorism' according to the Law of The United States Of America. The law the 'critics' used was 22 USC § 2656f(d)(2)). which states:

(d)(2) the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents.

Jake I don't know what else to say. If you can't understand plain English what's left to say?



I'm the commander, I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the President. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation....GW Bush

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TMC when some nutts fly two planes into the WTC that is 'terrorism'. When some nutts blow up a naval ship, that is an act of war.

Here's the cold hard truth. How many people have to get killed before you declare war? If a terrorist blows up a ship and kills 17 people is that, in the eyes of the US government, enough to justify a full scale war? Will it justify a bombing of terrorist camps? Will it justify a embargo against a country? Does it justify freezing all of the terrorist money here in the US? How many people does it take to die before the crap hits the fan? 1, 10, 100 or 10000? Glad i don't make those decisions, I just have to live with them.

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Jody Scott
731-780-4407
Frogjump TN
Black Creek Treeing Walkers

If I had feelings, that might would have hurt.

This war on terror I wonder about sometimes. Its basically the same thing if Russia invaded the USA and tryed to kill all the left handed people. You don't really know who the enemy is. My nephew tells me the 12 year old thats walks up to you, you don't know if he wants a snickers bar or has a bomb strapped to him.

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Jody Scott
731-780-4407
Frogjump TN
Black Creek Treeing Walkers

If I had feelings, that might would have hurt.

I think with all brain power TMC has he should run for pres??LOL!!

We know he dont coonhunt so mabey pres would be a better fit for him?????

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I think all of you need to take a step back and look at a few things.

#1) The Iraqi military was defeated in a little over 30 days of military action. We are no longer "at war" with the Iraqi military.... We toppled a regime that had terrorized it's own citizens for many years. They had the first democratic election in what happens to be the life expectancy of an Iraqi citizen.....so tyranny is all these folks know. They are fighting a "holy war" amongst the different factions of Muslims, and we are in thier way... The military action in Iraq has nothing to do with the reason we went there in the first place. We won, and everything that happenens after that point is a consequence.

#2) We can all stand around in a circle and point our fingers at each other proclaimin "my President is bigger than your President" and NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. When GW gave the command to go to Afghanistan, he enjoyed immense popularity, then again when we were ready to go to war with Saddam, his approval ratings climbed to a level that was unheard of in recent history...... He stated plainly that the war on terrorism is a long, hard battle. We were "in" with him...until it got long and hard. We were ready to sacrifice US lives, until soldiers started dying.

#3) If we depend on the main stream media to tell us the POSITIVES that have come out of our activities in the middle east, hell will be a very cold place before we get the truth. The fact that we have liberated millions of folks from the fear of execution and rape. We have rebuilt the schools, and have ensured that Iraqi GIRLS get to attend school....we have built hospitals, and we are training the Iraqi military to police themselves in a civil manner..... Your not going to hear that on FOX, CNN, or any of the other major networks. If you are relying on major media for your argument material....it will only get worse. Good news does not sell market share...never has...and never will.

#4) The democrats and republicans are the problem. The fact that our government has become so party motivated that we can not get much of anything done, because or "leaders" would rather disagree about a good idea, just because the other party supports it. It's all about public opinion, and not what is best for our country.

#5) The world is shrinking. As Americans, we can not think past our own shores and borders. Presidential foriegn policy used to be a whole lot simpler than it is today. As long as Russia was not too upset with our actions, we could piss off the rest of the world and not care. Like it or not, we have a global economy today. We can not afford to allianate the Chinese, the Middle East, and half of Europe any longer. We are dependant on them, and they are dependant on us. Every policy decision must be weighed against the reaction of the rest of the world. I for one would like to see us settle the middle east , once and for all. That would mean that we would need to take on Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebonon, and then move on. Of course in the wake we would have upset China, who sells arms to Syria....the list of concequences is long.

#6) Until you have set in the oval office, made the decisions that have to be made we have not walked in those shoes. Its easy to hide behind our computer screens and throw daggers at the current administration...and we are all armchair politicians....

I personally believe that if we would just support whomever is in office, we would get a lot farther, and be happier as a nation. We made a commitment...now lets move on!

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Originally posted by Skinner
TMC when some nutts fly two planes into the WTC that is 'terrorism'. When some nutts blow up a naval ship, that is an act of war.

Here's the cold hard truth. How many people have to get killed before you declare war? If a terrorist blows up a ship and kills 17 people is that, in the eyes of the US government, enough to justify a full scale war? Will it justify a bombing of terrorist camps? Will it justify a embargo against a country? Does it justify freezing all of the terrorist money here in the US? How many people does it take to die before the crap hits the fan? 1, 10, 100 or 10000? Glad i don't make those decisions, I just have to live with them.

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Originally posted by jesse walter
I think with all brain power TMC has he should run for pres??LOL!!

We know he dont coonhunt so mabey pres would be a better fit for him?????

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Originally posted by Skinner
National sercurity was not at stake, in Yemen.

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Del Hawkins

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That has been my whole point he should have been trying to kill Al queda's leadership instead of arrest them.

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Jody Scott
731-780-4407
Frogjump TN
Black Creek Treeing Walkers

If I had feelings, that might would have hurt.

I think this topic has got out of hand. Get back to the point. Is Bush the reason why dogs slick or not. That is the question.

rofl no....have'nt you heard? Clinton did it!!!!!

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Jody Scott
731-780-4407
Frogjump TN
Black Creek Treeing Walkers

If I had feelings, that might would have hurt.

Oh my! It's Mrs Skinner is a Mr.

Ahh ha ha.

Jody is a man!!!!! Not a woman.

She (he) had me fooled good.

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