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I have a friend who only hunts from October to February. We hunted the same bloodline, often from the same family of dogs. I hunted pretty much year round. The biggest thing I saw was that my dogs just finished out at a younger age than his did. Say mine topped out at 3 and his at 6 to 8 being their best years. I came to the conclusion that it wasn’t so much about age as it was about experience and a dog only gets that through woods time.

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John Smith
Ohio Valley Bluetick Kennel

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Originally posted by ov_blues
I have a friend who only hunts from October to February. We hunted the same bloodline, often from the same family of dogs. I hunted pretty much year round. The biggest thing I saw was that my dogs just finished out at a younger age than his did. Say mine topped out at 3 and his at 6 to 8 being their best years. I came to the conclusion that it wasn’t so much about age as it was about experience and a dog only gets that through woods time.

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

John and Dave I think you are both speaking the truth to some degree. Dave I feel that the hunter not the dog picks up the bad habits easier. Extreme weather cold or hot is more difficult on the dog, actually more so in the extreme cold conditions from what I have seen. After all coons hibernate in the extreme cold not in the heat so much that more of a hunter issue.

I say it depends on the circumstances. I have a female that treed her first solo coon in April a few years ago. By October she was a well started coon treer. I don't think that would have happened in the pen.

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Donald Bergeron

Younger dogs require putting them in circumstances that they can succeed in, finishing a dog requires putting the dog in adverse situations to make them overcome and then succeed. A lot of training is knowing when and what a dog needs. I remember helping a guy put some finishing touches on a dog. When we were figuring out where to turn loose he’d say “let’s go over to such and such place, I know we can tree a quick one there”. I’d say “nope, I know he can tree and easy coon so let’s go over to this place where it is hard to tree a coon”. It’s on the trainer to put a dog where and in what is my thinking.

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John Smith
Ohio Valley Bluetick Kennel

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Originally posted by ov_blues
Younger dogs require putting them in circumstances that they can succeed in, finishing a dog requires putting the dog in adverse situations to make them overcome and then succeed. A lot of training is knowing when and what a dog needs. I remember helping a guy put some finishing touches on a dog. When we were figuring out where to turn loose he’d say “let’s go over to such and such place, I know we can tree a quick one there”. I’d say “nope, I know he can tree and easy coon so let’s go over to this place where it is hard to tree a coon”. It’s on the trainer to put a dog where and in what is my thinking.

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

pro head coach

I heard this from Milwaukee Bucks NBA champs , head coach.. All you can do is put them is position to succeed, the rest they have to do themselves. Sounds like the same principle applies.... Pam , how cold do you consider too cold in Pennsylvania. I live in WI. , I would think are winters are about the same but you seem to get more of the big storms that blow thru. We usually get about 2 or 3 weeks of real nasty below zero. When we get snow , it usually will not last more than 3 weeks , when it warms up enough to get out. (15 degrees or above)

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Originally posted by Black Ash Bawl
I heard this from Milwaukee Bucks NBA champs , head coach.. All you can do is put them is position to succeed, the rest they have to do themselves. Sounds like the same principle applies.... Pam , how cold do you consider too cold in Pennsylvania. I live in WI. , I would think are winters are about the same but you seem to get more of the big storms that blow thru. We usually get about 2 or 3 weeks of real nasty below zero. When we get snow , it usually will not last more than 3 weeks , when it warms up enough to get out. (15 degrees or above)

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We don't get much cold here in south Louisiana, but when it gets in the twenties you can stay home. Folks here can't take much cold and raccoons obviously can't either. A few years back we got about 3" of snow. A local guy said he always wanted to coon in snow. He stayed out for 5 hours and never got a bark.

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Donald Bergeron

I'm sure extremes in weather, both cold and hot affect how coon move but the funny thing is I've gone on nights when it was bitterly cold and extremely hot and had good hunts and I've gone on nights when I thought it was perfect and couldn't get anything done. So now I go hunting if I want to and think me and the dogs can stand it. Last night at 10:00 85 degrees and about 78% humidity, really muggy and fog or steam on the ground and treed 2 singles in an hour. So you just never know. (I wad hunting on running creeks)

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Tom Wood

Shadinc,

I sent you an email.

Laying a dog up during the summer months

Shadinc,

I sent you an email.

The dogs up here are laid up all winter and it has never hurt them as of yet, can’t see why laying them up in the summer would be any different.
Take advantage of the down time and spend it working in the yard and bonding you will both benefit from it.

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