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Posted by Dave Richards on 11-21-2019 04:25 AM:

Donald

Me and you both, I have a 3 story home and wrap around covered porch and ALL my steps have hand rails for good reason. I have 2 barns and both have some loose tin that needs replacing, I am kind of afraid to get up on the barns, but can't find reliable help, so probably going to have to do the jib myself. Lol. Dave

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 11-21-2019 04:36 AM:

Re: Jen Cummings

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Richards
Lol. I climbed lots of trees in my younger days, never fell out of a tree, but would not trust myself to climb anything now that I am old and out of shape. ( FAT). Shaking coons out has it's plus and minuses, different dogs react differently as some of the posters have commented, it helps some and can hurt some depending on how solid a tree dog the dog actually is. Dave

Some have probably read my post on this before but when he was a kid the adults I think took the kids as climbers and also carried an ax. Coons weren't shot out they were knocked out of the trees the dog or dogs did the rest, it was seldom a rerun unless a pup that was being started was held back then turned loose. As an adult any dog we had very long their ears didn't hang down like a typical hounds do they kinda stuck out from their heads. This method was part necessity when he was a kid and in our early married years bullets cost money and climbing was free lol. I can tell you these and the squalling them down brings out something primitive in dogs that can't be replicated in any other way.
After the falling out of tree and another night of about walking off a cliff being rescued by his cast pulling him up with dog leashes in a human chain he's not much into places both feet aren't on the ground. I'm pretty sure he could still climb about anything if he wanted to but lucky for him he has a couple of Josh's squallers lol. I actually watched him squall one out just last week from the top of a big oak.

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 11-21-2019 04:49 AM:

Re: Donald

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
Me and you both, I have a 3 story home and wrap around covered porch and ALL my steps have hand rails for good reason. I have 2 barns and both have some loose tin that needs replacing, I am kind of afraid to get up on the barns, but can't find reliable help, so probably going to have to do the jib myself. Lol. Dave

You be careful, metal is slick stuff!
You need a Dalton close by. I had him and a friend put a new metal roof on my house last week. Cheyenne stood on the ground and handed them sheets as they climbed the ladder. Dalt did slide off the side once unfazed other than by his dad laughing. He was certified for 300+ ft and swinging around on power plant towers was considered fun lol.

Posted by Dave Richards on 11-21-2019 06:22 AM:

Jen Cummings

I would sure enough enjoy having Dalton living close to me. You and Cheyenne have done a fantastic job with your children and grandkids. I know they bring tons of love into your lives. Hope everything is well with you all and wishing you a very merry and happy holiday season. Dave

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Posted by Josh Michaelis on 11-21-2019 12:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Phenix
It's a good way to get hot tracks infront pups that are just starting but to much of it can cause problem. It's like cage coon sometime it help depending on how far a dog is along. And to much of it can definitely cause problems.

Ive squalled em out in OK, MO, IA, TX, IN, IL, and KY, I would think a coon is a coon, but who knows.

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Posted by Corey Gruver on 11-21-2019 01:08 PM:

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Corey, are you saying that the younger generation are deviants?

If that is Latin for "can't climb trees", yes

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Posted by Cotton 1927 on 11-21-2019 01:51 PM:

Jump out

Perhaps it's not done anymore like it once was,but if a couple shake outs ruined your young tree dog, you didn't have much to start with......

Posted by JB Cobb on 11-21-2019 02:59 PM:

My Granddaddy in his day cut down more trees than Georgia Pacfic using an ax that you cold shave with. It was what he enjoyed more than anything. He would cut them down and catch the coon alive and put him in a sack. He had 10 or 15 cages in the back yard he would put them in till after the season went out. Then he turned them loose and started over the next season. if the tree had a hollow in the bottom it didn’t matter the size he would cut it down. I can remember my Dad pointing to huge tree stumps for years in the creek bottoms when I was growing up hunting and telling me your Granddady cut that one down with a big smile on his face.

Posted by blueticker on 11-22-2019 03:46 AM:

I must of been 12 yrs old or close to that. Mom would send me up walnut trees to shake nuts out. The family would gather walnuts together. I'm sure today she would be arrested for endangering a child. Man things have changed the past 60 years. I do pray everyday for my grandkids.

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Posted by shadinc on 11-22-2019 05:03 AM:

Re: Donald

quote:
Originally posted by Dave Richards
Me and you both, I have a 3 story home and wrap around covered porch and ALL my steps have hand rails for good reason. I have 2 barns and both have some loose tin that needs replacing, I am kind of afraid to get up on the barns, but can't find reliable help, so probably going to have to do the jib myself. Lol. Dave

Dave, falling might not be your only problem. By the time you climb the ladder and get on the roof you'll be too exhausted to do any work and you'll have rest before you can climb down.

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Posted by Gary Roberson on 11-22-2019 02:31 PM:

I didn't know that there was any other way until I was about 20. We didn't even carry a gun on most hunts, if we did, it was for rattlesnakes. We jumped every coon and cat we treed from the time I began hunting at about 10.
I remember treeing a pretty big tom bobcat when hunting with Mr. Yarborough, I was about 18 at the time. We had a good race and the tom climbed a big mesquite and was about 15-20 feet off the ground. I climbed the tree and broke off a switch to help persuade him to jump as he really didn't want back on the ground. After a minute or so of hand to hand combat, he decided it was time to go and bailed. I dropped my switch and began to unclimb the mesquite when I heard the ten hounds turn and head back in my direction. Shortly, I hear Mr. Yarborough yell, "He's coming back up!" I turned my light to shine the trunk and sure 'nuff, he is coming in a huge hurry.
I tried to keep him blinded and timed a boot to his head that was fired a split second too soon to catch him flush but did deliver a glancing blow which sent him flying. Luckily the dogs subdued him when he hit the ground. Through the years, I have pushed a lot of cat out of trees but that was as close as I ever got to having one push me out.
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Posted by Preacher Tom on 11-22-2019 05:39 PM:

Lots of good memories of hunting 50 years ago with My Dad and Uncle. I will tell you this, climbing trees and shaking out coon made coon hunting exciting. Like Jen or Chey said "It will bring out something primitive in a dog". Climbed a big tree out north of Weatherford, Okla one night. Had to pretty much bear hug it up about 20 ft. then there was a knot I had to climb over which wasn't much problem going up but when I tried to come down I couldn't get my feet back to the trunk when I was on the knot or bulge on the tree. I would climb up and set on the knot and rest then try again. My uncle asked if he needed to get the fire dept but I told him I was going to try one more thing. Took my boots and socks off and dropped them. Then when I was going down over the knot I could get my toes on the bark and worked my legs to the trunk. Never climbed a tree after that unless I could pretty much go limb to limb.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 11-22-2019 08:42 PM:

Donald Bergeron

Lol. You got that right, just climbing the ladder gets me tired, it's getting the tin and all I need up that ladder and on the barn that's kept me from getting the job done. Good help seems to be a thing of the past. Lol. Dave

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Posted by Gary Roberson on 11-22-2019 08:59 PM:

As a youngster, killing a coon was one of the qualities that we judged a dog on. We wanted a gritty fighting dog and I was always surprised that these dogs
were less aggressive to each other than the dogs today.
Adios,
Gary

Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-22-2019 09:27 PM:

Can you belief that the Lion hunters in Montana actually climb trees and jump Lions out so that they can run them again.

Posted by Gary Roberson on 11-22-2019 09:38 PM:

Yes Sir.
Adios,
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Posted by Cory Highfill on 11-23-2019 12:12 AM:

I very nearly hung myself climbing one night. Had a squaller on a lanyard in my bibs, and as I bear-hugged a tree trunk and slid down, the lanyard hooked a knot. It had me hung by the neck about three feet above the ground. Cut the crap out of my neck before it finally broke, but in the position I was in I'd never have been able to get back up or down.

Posted by blueticker on 11-23-2019 12:12 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Can you belief that the Lion hunters in Montana actually climb trees and jump Lions out so that they can run them again.

I know some fellas from Oklahoma with similar IQ.

Posted by Rip on 11-23-2019 03:55 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Phenix
We squall several out. But most people I have talk to in other places around country act like I'm lying or crazy when I tell them the number of coon we squall out. Makes me wonder if some reason its different in other parts of countru.

This is what many people on this board do NOT understand. Yes things are different in every part of the country.

I grew up on the Cumberland Plateau. Half our coon went in the ground. They lived there. The mountain is hollow. People that are not used to that think that's not the case. It is. We broke our dogs from treeing in the ground.

I now live in the valley 40 miles away from where I grew up. If you tree in the ground MOST of the time it's a possum or a skunk not a coon.

HOWEVER I have witnessed more coon crossing out here in two or three hunts than I have ever seen in my life. I saw one cross like a squirrel with my light on him the whole time, went across 5 or 6 trees and kept going til he was completely out of sight. Never seen the like. I seen three coon cross out with my eyes in one week once down here. I didn't see three cross out in a year back home.

Things are different in different parts of the country.

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Posted by Dave Richards on 11-23-2019 08:37 PM:

Rip

Doc., funny you should mention coon crossing out of trees, some folks have never seen this happen and do not think they will cross trees. I have not seen a bunch, but I have witnessed several coons act just like squirrels, running from tree to tree, jumping from one tree to the next. NO the limbs do not have to touch, coons can jump pretty far from one tree to the next. Dave

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Posted by yadkintar on 11-23-2019 09:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by blueticker
I know some fellas from Oklahoma with similar IQ.

And some guys in Oklahoma would rather climb a tree with a mountain lion in it than hunt a bluetick lol.

Tar

Posted by Dave Richards on 11-24-2019 12:39 AM:

blueticker

Lol. Tar probably don't know the difference between a coon and a mountain lion, he is just glad when he sees eyes in a tree. TRUTH be known old Tar was the man in Jerry Clowers song Knock Him Out John hollering "shoot up here amongst us, one of us needs some relief". Now wouldn't that have been a pretty sight to see. Lol. It would be worth the drive to Oklahoma to hunt with Tar, maybe a mess of catfish and a slice or two of pear pie........yep it would. Dave

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Posted by Chuck Allen on 11-24-2019 06:01 AM:

It ain't climbing or a fall to worry about when one gets older it's that sudden stop when you catch up with the ground. LOL

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Posted by Dave Richards on 11-24-2019 06:15 AM:

Chuck Allen

Lol. Are you saying that extra 30 pounds of fat I am packing these days won't cushion my impact? Should be good for something other than slowing me down going up these mountains. Lol. Dave

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Posted by Chuck Allen on 11-24-2019 06:32 AM:

LoL buddy getting old ain't for Sissy's that is a fact.

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