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Tom, what's the black jacks?

I seen coondogs that reproduced good coon treeing dogs but never seen one that reproduced as good as their self. Maybe that’s why there are not that many of them.



Tar

Jeff Prince

I don't know you, but I like the way you think and as ant12 said if Jeff says it is a coondog, it is a coondog. I respect those that have seen and knows what a real coondog is and only puts that title on the select few that deserve the title. Dave

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Originally posted by 2ol2hunt
Tom, what's the black jacks?

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Tom Wood

TAR, I was told by an old man back in early 70 s that you didn't need to breed to outstanding hounds you needed to breed to what made them. What you think?

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Originally posted by 2ol2hunt
TAR, I was told by an old man back in early 70 s that you didn't need to breed to outstanding hounds you needed to breed to what made them. What you think?

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Re: Coon dog

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Originally posted by ant12
If Jeff Prince has it and calls it a coon dog,,,, IT IS! Someone should buy that pup trainer for sale.

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Jeff Prince

If you get one that you call a coondog and for some reason decide to sell, please pm me and I will buy...... seriously. Dave

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Re: Jeff Prince

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Originally posted by Dave Richards
If you get one that you call a coondog and for some reason decide to sell, please pm me and I will buy...... seriously. Dave

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Carson

You aren't wrong at all, that was my way of complimenting Jeff. My old dog 14 in December has been a true coondog and I bought him at an older age 8 from my hunting buddy. I had hunted with him since he was around 1 year old and he was a natural even then. The only way I got him then was due to the fact we hunted together every night and he had a really nice younger dog out of my old dog. Dave

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Originally posted by CHEWBACH
if they are gonna sell. most likely its not what your looking for. if its really a good one and guy knows what one is .. it want leave his home. could be wrong tho. jmo

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Totally Agree

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Originally posted by yadkintar
I seen coondogs that reproduced good coon treeing dogs but never seen one that reproduced as good as their self. Maybe that’s why there are not that many of them.
Tar

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I'd sooner take my chances on a pup that came from parents who both were from average to above average litters than a pup from outstanding parents that came from a litter where they were the only good ones in their respective litter.

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Originally posted by honalieh
When I see people say that a good stud dog is one that consistently reproduces dogs as good or better than itself, I know they don't have a clue. I've never seen an outstanding dog do this. I have seen dogs that weren't that good that consistently reproduced better than themselves. It just doesn't happen with dogs that are themselves outstanding.

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Ghost14

You have heard the old saying that one man's trash is another man's treasure, haven't you? Lol. Seriously, some may really believe that their dog is the best one ever, they just haven't see a real coondog operate. I got a lesson in my younger years 21, I had a really good dog, but went hunting with my first real coondog that a man I knew owned. Boy was I ever glad that I had left my really good dog at home that night. I could not believe my eyes that night we hunted mountains in thin coon and that dog put on a clinic treeing coons. He was the first real coondog that I ever hunted with, but he showed me what a real coondog could do. I later bought that dog, Buck was his name and I enjoyed many hunts with him. Dave

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

That’s right Dave, them good ones will ruin you. It’s a shame that more of them don’t exist but that’s the nature of the game I guess.

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I can not give a good definition of a coon dog but I can on a good hog dog... I believe it is the same concept...I will use hunting dog instead...

A good hunting dog looks good in any company...if the dogs in the other company are as good as mine then I will shake the owners hand because he has great dogs...

When the game is thin he will locate and have it bayed, caught or treed...

Many will tell you shut your eyes and pick a pup because you don’t know which will turn out...that may be true to a certain extent...but there are several reasons to breed your own...The first thing is we can do the little things with the pups that helps them reach their full potential one day...and we can observe them every day as pups and see how they operate...no one in their right mind will sell you their best so it is best to breed your own unless you have plenty of money...second best thing is buy two or three well bred and well socialized pups...if your lucky you’ll have one good pup...if your real lucky you’ll have two good pups...two out of three ain’t bad...sometimes we get rid of all three...just the way it goes when we want the best...

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Reuben

You have the right idea, but all of us are not good dog trainers. So for the ones that are not good trainers, we have to buy our dogs trained. I am here to tell you that it makes no difference how much money you have, a truly great dog is hard to find and harder to buy. Training your own has lots of benefits, but lots of drawbacks. You may spend a lot of time with a good prospect that never makes the kind of dog you want. It's a crapshoot, you win sometimes but lose a lot of times. Buying one has it's benefits and drawbacks, you can pass on the dog if it does not have what you are looking for and save a lot of time. Now you may find one that suits you, but the owner won't sell, had that happen several times. What I try to do is find one that has most of what I am looking for, with some rough spots that I can polish to my liking, that can be bought. Sometimes I am happy, sometimes the polishing does not work out so good. Lol. Dave

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

There are several different styles that a sure enough coon dog can have but one thing every COON DOG I have seen had in common was Indifference. It doesn’t matter what you cut them loose with and what the other dogs do they will be parked under a coon somewhere.

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I agree 100 percent, indifference to other dogs with one thing on their mind and that is treeing coons. They must have that extra sense enough to always know where to find a coon and the extra to always have the coon when they park. Some will say that that dog does not exist that is until they actually witness one in action. Are they common? Most certainly not, but a few exist from time to time and are a treasure when you get one. The 2 I have been fortunate to own were just as I described. Dave

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

I would say indifference is the best word to describe what extra they had. I’m not big on pretty or style, I’m big on game caught. I never believed a male would leave a female in full blown heat to go hunting till I watched it happen.
I don’t believe in picking great pups at 6 weeks old. Mine have always went through so many changes as they aged. I believe there is no answer but only faith a person has in a pup. If they have confidence they will put more into that pup. To each his own.

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