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Originally posted by Toad Hill
Best answer on here ! 1k pups wont set in a pen and go to waste

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Doesn't matter what the price $1 or a thousand. Pups are more likely to make it when in the right hands. Having the $ to pay top dollar does not make a person any better with pups and not having the $ to pay top price doesn't make on worse. It takes patience and know how. I've said this before but will say it again - some people are good at raising puppies, some good at starting a pup, do me good at getting a started pup going, some good at training young dogs, some good at the polishing into a nice dog - very few can do all the above and have the patience to see one through.

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Originally posted by breezyoaks
Wudnt be all terrible if the pups that are sold for big money are guaranteed to run and tree at a given age. ....End of story.

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Originally posted by breezyoaks
Wudnt be all terrible if the pups that are sold for big money are guaranteed to run and tree at a given age. ......but......2/3 of them get billed up to be the next big deal and dont have a clue......bottom line they either are born w it or they aint....and too many litters that aint. !


End of story.

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Originally posted by nitehunter2004
I give a 12 month guarantee on every pup from the day you pick it up, only had 1 pup come back.

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Id give 1000 for a pup out of a reproducing female. I don't care what they've won.

I haven't raised a litter in quite some time but at one time I raised and sold many litters. I have a very good female now that I believe is worthy of raising a litter out of. Raising pups is a bitter/sweet deal and can be gratifying or heart breaking. For the longest time it would make me angry when I would hear about one that didn't get hunted, or sold before given a chance or there were even a couple culled under a year old for what ever reason. I loved hearing good reports on pups as they progressed. I realized that once they left my kennel, I had no more control over them. I would always give a year guaranteed satisfaction on them once they left and would give a full puppy price refund if they were hunted and returned in good health. Out of all my pups sold, I only had 2 returned and both went on to make coon dogs. I never raised a litter for profit, as said before, that's nearly impossible. I always tried to breed to the best I could find and try to raise something better than what I had. I liken buying a puppy to buying a scratch off lottery ticket, you never know what you're gonna get. Get what you can out of your pups. Remember, when you buy a pup, you're getting a puppy from the sire and dam, and you're not getting the sire and dam. If you get 2 good coon dogs from a litter and some average ones, that's not too bad. Once in a while a super pup will surface but they're not as common as you would think. Good luck on you endeavor.

I enjoy training pups and it takes a lot of patience and can be enjoyable if you don't get to upset when your pup doesn't do everything you exspect,its just like raising a child one step at a time.

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I might add she has been bred once when she was Just a GrNt with a very good male but unknown. She has proven herself with some nice young hounds and we have a male that I wouldn’t sell. All with big mouths except one that is average.

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I might add she has been bred once when she was Just a GrNt with a very good male but unknown. She has proven herself with some nice young hounds and we have a male that I wouldn’t sell. All with big mouths except one that is average.

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Puppy prices

Raising puppies now. They are 5 weeks old. Best I can figure, this is what the cost is as of now. 11 puppies.

$650.00 Vet bill; C-section, and 6 day stay for female that had pups.
$610.00 Supplies to bottle feed 11 pups for 4 weeks.
$50.00 Puppy chow last 1 1/2 weeks.
$25.00 Nemex 2 wormer (last two weeks need another bottle now)
$125.00 Shots for 11 puppies.
$160.00 reg and perform fee (includes the studs perform for the year.
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$1618.00

And the time to care for these little fellows, you can put a price on that.
Week 1, bottle feeding every 2 hours.
Week 2, 4-5 bottle feeding a day.
Week 3, 4 bottle feeding a day and start on soaked puppy chow and
keep fresh water.
Week 4, Soaked puppy Chow 3 times a day, all they can eat, and
fresh water 24/7. Introduce them to dry Puppy chow.
Week 5, Soaked puppy chow morning and evening, and dry puppy
chow at noon. all they can eat. fresh water 24/7.

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Originally posted by BigContry
Raising puppies now. They are 5 weeks old. Best I can figure, this is what the cost is as of now. 11 puppies.

$650.00 Vet bill; C-section, and 6 day stay for female that had pups.
$610.00 Supplies to bottle feed 11 pups for 4 weeks.
$50.00 Puppy chow last 1 1/2 weeks.
$25.00 Nemex 2 wormer (last two weeks need another bottle now)
$125.00 Shots for 11 puppies.
$160.00 reg and perform fee (includes the studs perform for the year.
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$1618.00

And the time to care for these little fellows, you can put a price on that.
Week 1, bottle feeding every 2 hours.
Week 2, 4-5 bottle feeding a day.
Week 3, 4 bottle feeding a day and start on soaked puppy chow and
keep fresh water.
Week 4, Soaked puppy Chow 3 times a day, all they can eat, and
fresh water 24/7. Introduce them to dry Puppy chow.
Week 5, Soaked puppy chow morning and evening, and dry puppy
chow at noon. all they can eat. fresh water 24/7.

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Originally posted by Ron Moore
I feel your hurt Tommy, been there a few times. It will happen If you raise enough pups but it's gratifying when they mature into coon dogs. You've done a great job raising those pups! It was great meeting you out at Gary's house. Hope your Duke pup is doing well.

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Originally posted by BigContry
Raising puppies now. They are 5 weeks old. Best I can figure, this is what the cost is as of now. 11 puppies.

$650.00 Vet bill; C-section, and 6 day stay for female that had pups.
$610.00 Supplies to bottle feed 11 pups for 4 weeks.
$50.00 Puppy chow last 1 1/2 weeks.
$25.00 Nemex 2 wormer (last two weeks need another bottle now)
$125.00 Shots for 11 puppies.
$160.00 reg and perform fee (includes the studs perform for the year.
________

$1618.00

And the time to care for these little fellows, you can put a price on that.
Week 1, bottle feeding every 2 hours.
Week 2, 4-5 bottle feeding a day.
Week 3, 4 bottle feeding a day and start on soaked puppy chow and
keep fresh water.
Week 4, Soaked puppy Chow 3 times a day, all they can eat, and
fresh water 24/7. Introduce them to dry Puppy chow.
Week 5, Soaked puppy chow morning and evening, and dry puppy
chow at noon. all they can eat. fresh water 24/7.

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Re: Puppy prices

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Originally posted by BigContry
Raising puppies now. They are 5 weeks old. Best I can figure, this is what the cost is as of now. 11 puppies.

$650.00 Vet bill; C-section, and 6 day stay for female that had pups.
$610.00 Supplies to bottle feed 11 pups for 4 weeks.
$50.00 Puppy chow last 1 1/2 weeks.
$25.00 Nemex 2 wormer (last two weeks need another bottle now)
$125.00 Shots for 11 puppies.
$160.00 reg and perform fee (includes the studs perform for the year.
________

$1618.00

And the time to care for these little fellows, you can put a price on that.
Week 1, bottle feeding every 2 hours.
Week 2, 4-5 bottle feeding a day.
Week 3, 4 bottle feeding a day and start on soaked puppy chow and
keep fresh water.
Week 4, Soaked puppy Chow 3 times a day, all they can eat, and
fresh water 24/7. Introduce them to dry Puppy chow.
Week 5, Soaked puppy chow morning and evening, and dry puppy
chow at noon. all they can eat. fresh water 24/7.

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Pup Price

You also need to factor in the stud fee, supplements you gave the female through pregnancy and just plain time raising pups , I'm sure it has been a lot of sleepless nights raising those pups. If the pups are out of good breeding than nobody should expect a cheap pup. If you really want a piece of that good breeding to better your kennel then you should be willing to pay for it. If you think its to much move on and find the next litter. With all that being said a lot of guys will give pups to people they know will hunt them and promote them because they like to see their stock in the winners circle. By those pups winning more people will be contacting them to buy pups, that's where they can start selling pups.

With good luck you can make money and with bad luck you can lose more than money. The best money can be made a year after the first mating or you can learn not to make that same mating again.

Ive learned after going through many pups that the asking price for them does not reflect whatsoever how they turn out. Ive bought high dollar "good bred" to "PR" and everywhere in between. The fact is most don't make the dog I want so I don't even register them anymore. If they make the dog I'm looking for at 2 years old and I wanna go to a hunt and clean house ill pay the extra money an register them then. Its a lot cheaper than going through ten pups and registering them for a min of $35 a pop then culling them a year later.

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Originally posted by stxcoonhunter
Ive learned after going through many pups that the asking price for them does not reflect whatsoever how they turn out. Ive bought high dollar "good bred" to "PR" and everywhere in between. The fact is most don't make the dog I want so I don't even register them anymore. If they make the dog I'm looking for at 2 years old and I wanna go to a hunt and clean house ill pay the extra money an register them then. Its a lot cheaper than going through ten pups and registering them for a min of $35 a pop then culling them a year later.

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Originally posted by yadkinriver
With good luck you can make money and with bad luck you can lose more than money.

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Originally posted by trkrmsy
I would be more worried about who gets them than selling them. I bred my female to Tucker she had 11 pups I sold 7 of them and still took a big loss after all the paperwork and vet bills.
I thought someone that paid for a pup would give them a good chance but the only ones that ever had a decent chance are the 3 I kept myself.
If I had it to do over I would have just made sure they got in good hands.

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I used to try to "place" pups but I am about as good at picking owners as I am at picking pups. So I just gave up and started selling them. Every time I placed a pup with a hard hunter, they quit hunting or ran into financial trouble and sold the pup. I once sold a pup to a young girl for a pet. A year later her grandpa called me and told me that it made a real nice coon dog and he was hunting it.

A cost I haven't seen included here is the cost of running around putting titles on the dogs because we all know hardly noone wants to pay for a pup that doesn't have parents with titles. If you don't like the price on a pup don't buy it. No one has any business telling anyone else what their pups are worth.

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