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Mike Fleming

Great post from an actual COONHUNTER. Dave

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Dave Richards Treeing Walkers Reg American Saddlebred and Registered Rocky Mt. Show Horses

After the 2000 $$$ world hunt I bought the world champion. I thought he was one of the best I had ever owned habit was in that final 4. Later I hunted with habit I realized that habit had a lot to offer the walker breed. As he got older there was no way that world champion would even have been on the same level as him that's why habit is in my dogs. Never hunted with sunrise but people that did said he was a coondog. I only owned 1 coondog in my life and that world champion wasn't him.


Tar

When we are out on the farm my grandfather tells my father how cattle today just don’t gain weight or hold up like they did when he was in full business, my dad tells me my cows just ain’t the good mommas like the ones he has had for years in his herd.

Maybe,it’s a generational thing. I remember walking to a lot of slick trees in the early 80’s. I walk to slick trees now.

I remember a lot of sorry mouthed dogs in the 80’s I hunt with some now

I remember having to practically beg a dog to tree in the 80’s while hissing,shaking vines,carrying coon tails, etc. I don’t have to do that now.

The golden days of yesteryear are always fond in our memories just like how old Spot who has been dead 37 years gets better each time the story is told.

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Get a Good One

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Originally posted by high ridge
When we are out on the farm my grandfather tells my father how cattle today just don’t gain weight or hold up like they did when he was in full business, my dad tells me my cows just ain’t the good mommas like the ones he has had for years in his herd.

Maybe,it’s a generational thing. I remember walking to a lot of slick trees in the early 80’s. I walk to slick trees now.

I remember a lot of sorry mouthed dogs in the 80’s I hunt with some now

I remember having to practically beg a dog to tree in the 80’s while hissing,shaking vines,carrying coon tails, etc. I don’t have to do that now.

The golden days of yesteryear are always fond in our memories just like how old Spot who has been dead 37 years gets better each time the story is told.

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There must have been a lot of people hunting the wrong stuff in that time period in Ky, Tn, Wv, Oh, In, Il,and the Carolinas because it wasn’t something that was synonymous with just my junk.

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Get a Good One

Well before the 80's it was common language you either had a Finley river bred dog or a banjo bred dog it was almost like two different lines the Finley river dogs started slower and were as you discribe. The banjo dogs were more tree dog and started quicker. Then about the 80's they learned to combine them like the spring creek rock X Cadillac cross or old Harry X morgans penny I can name a lot of good dogs that came out of those crosses. Crows boss out of rains banjo Jr. Half brouther to coon stopper ole boss would be running hot with the other dogs and come across a litter of kittens and stop and tree every one of them then get him back in the race and he was fast enough to tree that coon. I would like to put some of these modern dogs in a three hour cast with the old strike rule and see how they stack up I watch all the play by plays in $$$ hunts and these dogs catch a lot of minus in 1 1/2 hr hunts and win with goose eggs we did not have that option. I respect everybody's opinion but it wasn't that way for me I got beat by coondogs.


Tar

The 80's Walkers that Tar mentions were the Coon dogs of the Walker Breed. JMO

These Blaster dogs we are raising are different then hounds today, in build and hunting style, Blaster was an 80's hound and even though his name suggested tree he was a track dog straight out of Champ.
Our young male Buck will hold his head high and smell the wind constantly, and when leading i cant tell you how many times he will start jerking a direction and when cut loose may go several hundred yards and get treed, also extremely strong in water.
He hunts hard and deep and is as accurate as any hound i have ever seen.
When a track bogg's they don't beat it, they break out in a wide circle trying to pick it up again, they want to run a track.
Been fun to watch....

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Striving to breed balanced Treeing Walkers.

"Life is short boys, Hunt an intelligent hound"

Born in sin, convicted by the Word, saved by Grace.

Mr Meeks told me the strength of the yadkin river dogs was to keep it close. in one generation out a little ways the next than back in. They are pleasurable to hunt if you like good dog work first and foremost.



Tar

Agreed

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Originally posted by yadkintar
I know how you breed dogs just like I do and we hunt what we breed and am pretty sure if hides got high again we would get a good check. That's the point I am trying to make and Jim Meeks article says the same thing. Dogs were trained to tree every coon they got near back then did not even worry about the rules.
Tar

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Rat attack was a great reproducer ive seen way better rat dogs than I have ever seen Yadkin river dogs but hunt what you like

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Robby Anderson
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Long Branch Mtn Curs

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Rat goes back to yadkin river on top lol.


Tar

I liked the tar rattler dogs but I don't understand why some of you guys bash rat attack numbers don't lie he was the best reproducer

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Robby Anderson
336-927-6576

Long Branch Mtn Curs

GRNITECH SQCH LONG BRANCH GHOST HTX

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Originally posted by rcagla10583
I liked the tar rattler dogs but I don't understand why some of you guys bash rat attack numbers don't lie he was the best reproducer

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Great Article

Yes, I think Jim's article is the best article I have read in a very long time.