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Here is the deal with coonhunters , every dog they send out to be hunted is the best you will ever hunt so there doing you a favor to let you hunt it and on top of that giving you $300 because there so generous and when you dont win with it is your fault

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Originally posted by TylerOSU
Not all dogs have what it takes to be at my standards of keeping around. All of them I've sold has went on to do big things but they had one thing or another I didn't like so they went down the road. I made the UKC top 100 with an 18 month old pup... he had a few mental quirks so down the road he went. I'm a dog hunter/trainer not a miracle worker

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Coonhounds in my opinion are different that other breeds when it comes to training. Most of the stuff a coonhound does comes from its heart and genetic package. You just have to put it in the woods and let it unleash its fury on the coon. Most guys send dogs off to be trained because they don't have the time to put the dogs in the woods on a regular basis and train the dog through repetition. Thing is that these guys get the dog back and they still don't have the time to hunt it and it sits in the pen. If your going to coon hunt and don't have much time. Get yourself a trained dog as it is cheaper and easier in the long run. If you get a pup but at a certain young age you want more hunting on the pup that you can do or you want another set of hands on the dog for a while. Then get someone like Tyler to hunt the dog for you.
I had a lot of things going on back in September with AO and then a Family vacation right after that. So I sent a young one up to Cecil Pittman's in South Ga. Figured it would be better that him sitting the pen. He spent a month with him and he came back a better dog than he was when he left here. That is all a man can ask for.

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I use to hunt a lot of dogs for people. I can tell you now it made me hate dogs and the stud dogs they were out of until I realized it never was the dogs it was the FOOLISH people leading them. In order to make a solid coon dog it doesn’t start at 2 yrs old. It starts at the womb. Everything you do to a SMART well bred pup from that moment on in reputaition will either make or break the pup.
If you compition Hunt and our as picky as I am it takes ALOT of time to train them. I don’t care what the dog is out of and how much momma and daddy have won!! It takes ALOT of rubber to get one compition ready. Let me explain competition ready in my eyes. Must lead with out pulling me, Must leave good when snap is popped, Must be looking to get treed and try to have a coon, Must not pay attention to the other dogs, Must recut as good as he left the first time, Must stay treed, must stay away from ALL lights, Must not bog down on the track much, and must KNOW HIS NAME!!
Now I can’t make that in 30 nights!! Send me a dog someone FOOLISH has had and I may never be able to fix what he’s had done all his life. Sometimes when something bad happens to me I never forget it and neither does a dog.
So to answer the question ALOT it would take someone ALOT to get me to hunt a dog. I can make more starting and getting pups headed in the right direction than I can hunting a dog for someone that someone else has messed up or that just dont got what it takes. I enjoy hunting a young dog that I have raised a lot more than I do someone else’s mistakes

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I understand what you are saying Jason but seriously, there aren't one dog in a thousand out there that measures up to your criteria and if your comp ready dogs were the only ones at the hunts, every club in the country would close.
But I agree the owners today have far more shortages that the pups being born.
Our society today is instant everything. Very few can or will put in the hours necessary to make the winning hounds.

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All right now you will get some from the other side LOL.

I used to hunt 4 to 5 nights a week. Always had a good hound. Won my share. It was from putting time in the woods.

Now I am on the other end. I don't have the time to hunt but I can pay someone to hunt a dog or two for me.

Most ain't worth nowhere near 300 a month and feed. Always some excuse, raining, cold, had to go here or there. Dog don't get hunted much more than if I kept it here and hunted it on my limited schedule only difference is I pay someone to have the fun I would have had with results about the same as me cause they really ain't hunting it much more than I would.

Sure the right person would be easily worth 1000 bucks per month and I would gladly pay that to the right person.

They are as hard to find as a good dog.

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Originally posted by JiM
I understand what you are saying Jason but seriously, there aren't one dog in a thousand out there that measures up to your criteria and if your comp ready dogs were the only ones at the hunts, every club in the country would close.
But I agree the owners today have far more shortages that the pups being born.
Our society today is instant everything. Very few can or will put in the hours necessary to make the winning hounds.

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Originally posted by ole hoss
I put the time in. Does not matter about the weather, or time of year at dark I go hunting. I don’t know what it is I just have to go. I have took more time off this week than I have since I started. My wife’s son was killed in a car accident and I feel she’s more important than any dog. Visitation today, funeral tomorrow and then ill be back in the woods to grieve my way.
I do agree jim the dog I lead in a comp hunt is hard to find. Nearly impossible. But!! It’s not because of the dogs it’s because the people doesn’t put the time in. I can’t do it in 30 days I can’t mske it in 90 days but I can make them and I’ve proven it time and time again at a HIGH LEVEL.
IF a man wants to hunt on that level and can put up with my honesty and will pay me for my time then I’m willing to take 1. But I’m not gonna do it for nothing!!

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Originally posted by Rip
If what you say is accurate I would have no problem paying you what it is worth.

The problem I have is that most are NOT worth the 300 and a bag of feed LOL.

This is just one mans perspective but I have been on both sides and finding someone to hunt a dog right is harder than finding a finished shore nuff coondog.

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