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Posted by MUSKY on 11-25-2018 07:06 PM:

I am hunting one now that at 7 months old would run or tree anything that made a track, he hunted super hard as a pup. At about eleven months old I started getting on him for the fast game and it took a lot of the drive out of him that just now he is starting to get back, I agree with a few of you other fellas if they ain’t got enough drive to bump a deer when they run over one I am not interested in them.

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Posted by DOUG CHEEK on 11-26-2018 08:03 PM:

MR LAVERN MILLER ---said when he got JOKER he could not hunt close to a RAIL ROAD because JOKER would run that track LOL - until he ran over a coon track --like LAVERN said but he sure would tree them coon back in those days it was hard to fine a dog that would tree and stay --but they would run all night

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Posted by CONRAD FRYAR on 11-26-2018 09:36 PM:

I have some out of my stock and crossed on Tree Blaster that at 4 months will run anything in the woods, they will light a deer up and run him further than even i like for there age. Been fun to watch pups that young, flat out hunt when i walk them.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-26-2018 09:53 PM:

An old coon Hunter once told me that he started his pups on rabbits.


Posted by CONRAD FRYAR on 11-26-2018 10:04 PM:

Rabbits, Squirrels,Deer it really does not matter, once you show them a coon a couple times they forget about the rest. Its the running loose and practicing there art, builds confidence.Garmin made a way to break them quick

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Posted by mrburneisen on 11-28-2018 03:47 PM:

My Trashy Dogs

The pups I've raised seem to run trash as much as dogs of the past, we are just able to deal with it better because of the garmin. I turned 2 dogs loose on a north bound bear track this fall, and my younger dog took a hard turn east about a 1/2 mile down the track. I could see this happen on the garmin, got back to the subaru and drove around and caught her. I followed her backtrack on the garmin and found only deer tracks. It was pretty easy to figure out the young dog was tracking with the older dog, bumped a deer and the chase was on. Garmin and more roads made this detective work easier because I couldn't really hear where the dogs split due to high wind, but I could watch it unfold on the garmin and get ahead of the deer race.

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Posted by 2ol2hunt on 11-28-2018 04:04 PM:

Don't make sense to start Training a dog on something like possum or squirrels then turn around and try to break them off them , why not just do it right the first time? But I guess everyone has their own way of doing things. Same thing about the track why deer or rabbits to start with,makes no sense to me.


Posted by CONRAD FRYAR on 11-28-2018 04:17 PM:

Don't train them on anything but coon period.
but while they are young and learning to run a track i don't care what it is on. But when the real training takes place it's time to learn.
The pup that gets to run loose and do his own training is usually miles a head.

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 11-28-2018 08:17 PM:

Sometimes you have to use whatever is available. You guys that have coons just don't understand what it is like.


Posted by Reuben on 11-30-2018 12:22 PM:

I don't coon hunt but if I did...I would like to own a line of hounds that at 4 months would naturally bay donkeys and cattle and look good doing it...i would like them to trail rabbits, tree squirrels and grinners... and at 6 months run a deer all alone on a dark and moonless night for a good distance...

These trashy pain in the behind pups would keep me excited and at the top of my game...yep

I would do roll cage training a few times...hang a caged coon a few times and turn loose a coon in front of those pups a few times to run it to a tree...stage one a couple of times for rig training...

Then I would break them off of deer, squirrel and possums before starting them in the woods...

In the woods...first couple times I would free cast my solid coon dog and when he struck I would turn in a few pups to him...after a few times of this I would free cast the pups with my coon dog a few times before hunting those pups alone...

It's hard to put a price on pup like this when everything about that pup is right to include looks and personality...

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 11-30-2018 02:01 PM:

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Originally posted by CONRAD FRYAR
Don't train them on anything but coon period.
but while they are young and learning to run a track i don't care what it is on. But when the real training takes place it's time to learn.
The pup that gets to run loose and do his own training is usually miles a head.


X2 . And nay sayers don't understand that at a young age with a few coons knocked out they usually break themselves. Everything we own gets to run loose and nobody chasing them around with a shocker at 6mo old. Every track they run is a learning experience only the coons are rewarded even when the others come with no punishment smart pups figure out their purpose pretty quickly. It's not until they are treeing coons consistantly that extra discouragement may be used. Pups with plenty of fire are born not made in proper time you can take out what needs but you can't put it in them. Shockers in the wrong hands have been the downfall of plenty of dogs.

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