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Posted by wjoey on 09-03-2018 01:05 PM:

There hoping it will bring more dogs into the program hense more money to pay out only time will tell

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Posted by Tyson McComber on 09-03-2018 01:53 PM:

Grnt’s must have competition in these casts and not allowed to hunt alone, right?


Posted by joey on 09-03-2018 02:31 PM:

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Grnt’s must have competition in these casts and not allowed to hunt alone, right?


They will be hunting in the Nch cast.

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Posted by Tyson McComber on 09-03-2018 03:23 PM:

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They will be hunting in the Nch cast.


So grnt and ntch draw out together and opens are separate?


Posted by joey on 09-03-2018 03:34 PM:

Yes.

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Posted by ky coonin on 09-03-2018 03:51 PM:

the first ones to make the gnhof will be those that have the extra money to put out to run to these hunts, yes they are doable i have done it but it comes with a cost, which i will not be able to afford to do so now, i may make mine nitech now but thats gonna cost me more now, so that may be far as mine go, but they will still be coondogs regardless of what they earn if they in my pens

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Posted by joey on 09-03-2018 04:00 PM:

Not very many are going to make it, that's kind of the point. They want to recognize the ones that do. A lot of guys will hunt a dog 4 years or so in the hunts. 12 to 13 cast wins a year will earn this title. With double headers that's not a whole lot of hunts and you can earn points on the way.

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Posted by johnny reb on 09-03-2018 08:14 PM:

I don't see the big deal about gr.nt and nt.ch drawing together. In the other kc everyone hunts together whether it's the first hunt a dogs in or there 100th. At least this way the ones that are always having excuses about losing can have a new one. My nt.ch got beat because there was a gr.nt in the cast


Posted by Kenneth Tavares on 09-04-2018 03:08 AM:

Re: .

quote:
Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey
I briefly read the new format and after spending the past few day at Autumn Oaks and 34 hours in a truck. I haven't had time to look deep into what the changes will bring. One thing after reading these post I do see and would like someone to explain is the Performance Points. I see we are talking about the new formats increasing attendance and I guess that means more performance points given out. However I don't see any mention of how they are increasing the INPUT into the performance program. If you just take more out without putting more in. The value of each POINT will be less. So you can double the points earned and you end up with the same money you got the year before for half the work.

Am I missing something there?



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Tone it down guys, or they will delete another good topic...


Posted by Blaine Stout on 09-04-2018 03:43 AM:

1000 dollars

I might be the odd guy out here but I spend 1000 to 1200 a year in entries every year. I hit 6 to 8 hunts a month most of the time I stay with in a 2 hr driving window on ukc hunts. This is not counting chkc or acha hunts. But I just love the comp hunts I love visiting. I dont win all the time but feel I have competitive dogs. I try to keep 2 to 3 hounds hunted up. Yes I still get butterflies before every hunt but would not change it for the world. Ukc decided to change up some rules so I'm going adapt and move on.

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Posted by timber hunter on 09-04-2018 04:06 AM:

where

can I find these new rules


Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-04-2018 03:25 PM:

Baby steps Bruce, first the hunt format change. They can't change everything at once. There is also a big $150,000 money hunt change that hasn't been unveiled yet. That is next on the list. Just wait until that is announced. Everyone will be able to pick it apart and complain. There is also a big $$$ cash prize for the winner of next year's 2019 UKC World Championship that I am sure that they will get a lot of complaints about.


Posted by Autumn Clements on 09-04-2018 04:05 PM:

Makes me wish my grand nite wasn’t 10 years old, I would have loved to been able to keep hunting her in hunts when I had no young dogs to hunt

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Posted by hat creek mac on 09-04-2018 05:13 PM:

What do you get other than a title?

HONESTLY anymore around here you never get anything but a win slip. For years, clubs gave out trophies. Then we saw a move toward giving plaques. Then leashes and other equipment. Then came the poor boy hunts, which I have no problem with IF you charge a lesser entry fee. The last 2 dogs I granded out, I did not receive a reward of any kind. I MEAN NOTHING. I'm not a fan of trophies and plaques but dang it I want SOMETHING for my money and win. At least when I win in the other KCs, I get some gas money.

Some of you may be all in on this 50 cast win GrNite, I'm not.

I DID have one that won over 200 casts. They call her a Platinum Ch and there was a substantial amount of cash entered my pocketbook along the way.

I hope some of these changes help bring back some people to the hunts and stir up interest. This particular change isn't the one to get it done in my opinion.

JUST AN OL POOR BOYS OPINION


Posted by high ridge on 09-04-2018 05:21 PM:

I agree Ritchie but hopefully in that 50 CE some performance $ will calculate

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Posted by joey on 09-04-2018 06:30 PM:

We will have to give UKC a bit there might be other stuff they can not announce yet that will make this make more sense.

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Posted by johnny reb on 09-05-2018 06:27 AM:

I would think the average guy would spend $7-$1000 a year on entries. If that scares you when the other kennel club had the fall superstakes and world hunt back to back. I've spent more in just those 2 weeks. It's like any hobby it cost you get out of it what you put into it.


Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-06-2019 04:25 PM:

All right Mr Gingerich, who is the first HOF dog?


Posted by JiM on 03-06-2019 04:29 PM:

My guess is it will lt will be a dog from the south and it won't be a Walker.

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Posted by Redneck Mafia on 03-06-2019 04:53 PM:

Re: .

quote:
Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey
I briefly read the new format and after spending the past few day at Autumn Oaks and 34 hours in a truck. I haven't had time to look deep into what the changes will bring. One thing after reading these post I do see and would like someone to explain is the Performance Points. I see we are talking about the new formats increasing attendance and I guess that means more performance points given out. However I don't see any mention of how they are increasing the INPUT into the performance program. If you just take more out without putting more in. The value of each POINT will be less. So you can double the points earned and you end up with the same money you got the year before for half the work.

Am I missing something there?


The new paperwork requires hunt officials to list the dogs with the top 3 cast winning plus point scores. The top 3 only if applicable will receive performance points in decreasing amount from placement 1-3.
So all these cast winners are not receiving points only the top 3 placements and only those that are eligible. Example top 3 dogs only the 3rd place dog is a performance dog, only it will receive points and only the amount given for 3rd place, it would not move up.

Cast wins we have 2 with way more than 50 they are just in the wrong kennel club, non-transferable lol. I would guesstimate both are near GRNITECH 2 here with wins that could be tracked.

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Posted by Allen / UKC on 03-06-2019 06:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
All right Mr Gingerich, who is the first HOF dog?


Our Programmer is actually working with the system as we speak. We should know soon! There will be a few that are close and I'm thinking of at least one who may already be. We shall see!

I'm going to keep my eye out for a little Dual Grand Walker gyp out of the Show Me State, to be one of the first. 2011 model.


Posted by Redneck Mafia on 03-06-2019 07:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Allen / UKC

I'm going to keep my eye out for a little Dual Grand Walker gyp out of the Show Me State, to be one of the first. 2011 model.


Not surprised. There will be some of those MO dogs with quite a few wins, some have been collecting up those MCHF points for years throw in some at Purina events and it gets them up there in recorded wins.

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I can only imagine what the price will be for the first litter of 3 Generation ALL GRNITECH HALL OF FAME pups will be Haha

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