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I would be all for them pulling blood but I don't care if they have them on steroids or cocain it will not cause a genetic issue or pass on to the pups. If the mother was on it it could cause problems with the pups but that's it. It's just biology. My male doesn't have a problem, he has been checked a couple of times. It's my old female.

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there was a circle of dogs that was in on that fad at that time and now it has compounded ! Because they kept breeding those dogs without telling anybody bozz had it and with all my heart they took anouther dog to get the vet check it was 90 days after I got him home before he straightened out off of somthing ! Joey I sat around like a little mouse and listened to them boys brag about it some of them are well thought of today they will do anything for $30,000 dollars they pull blood in the semifinals of major hunts you would see. A lot of the handlers are on stuff to the whole thing ain't what it used to be that's why we can't keep up no more.



When they are juiced they are 2 miles deep and alone every drop with 2 looking at you every drop every night.

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Originally posted by yadkintar
there was a circle of dogs that was in on that fad at that time and now it has compounded ! Because they kept breeding those dogs without telling anybody bozz had it and with all my heart they took anouther dog to get the vet check it was 90 days after I got him home before he straightened out off of somthing ! Joey I sat around like a little mouse and listened to them boys brag about it some of them are well thought of today they will do anything for $30,000 dollars they pull blood in the semifinals of major hunts you would see. A lot of the handlers are on stuff to the whole thing ain't what it used to be that's why we can't keep up no more.



When they are juiced they are 2 miles deep and alone every drop with 2 looking at you every drop every night.

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Originally posted by yadkintar
there was a circle of dogs that was in on that fad at that time and now it has compounded ! Because they kept breeding those dogs without telling anybody bozz had it and with all my heart they took anouther dog to get the vet check it was 90 days after I got him home before he straightened out off of somthing ! Joey I sat around like a little mouse and listened to them boys brag about it some of them are well thought of today they will do anything for $30,000 dollars they pull blood in the semifinals of major hunts you would see. A lot of the handlers are on stuff to the whole thing ain't what it used to be that's why we can't keep up no more.



When they are juiced they are 2 miles deep and alone every drop with 2 looking at you every drop every night.

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Originally posted by joey
I 100% believe you but it wouldn't affect the pups unless the gyp was being juiced while she was pregnant. Nothing genetic is caused from anything taking drugs. Just not how it works.

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Originally posted by Rip
One thing Joey, if the gyp was being juiced while she was pregnant the pups would be stillborn, she wouldn't be able to have them because thyroid is that important they would die from the overdose.

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a few things ive figured out in my research.

Lymes effects thyroid.
lymes can be passed in humans by sex and birth. makes one think it can in dogs also. Im currently trying to test this in dogs.

its not cheap to fix but from what ive seen a dog can come back if treated correctly.

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There are thyroid dogs reproducing thyroid dogs and that is a fact I can prove it you know that for a fact your selfs no matter what in the beginning caused it from the beginning of earth we had ticks how getting tick diseases ain't nothing new people are just finding somthing to blame thyroid on go ahead give them their sissy pills I ain't going to own one and I sure ain't going to breed to one if I know it. There are other options.

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There are thyroid dogs reproducing thyroid dogs and that is a fact I can prove it you know that for a fact your selfs no matter what in the beginning caused it from the beginning of earth we had ticks how getting tick diseases ain't nothing new people are just finding somthing to blame thyroid on go ahead give them their sissy pills I ain't going to own one and I sure ain't going to breed to one if I know it. There are other options.

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Dang Joey you must of been out hunting too it was almost 1:00 in the morning when I posted that lol.


I still think giving a dog steroids in high levels can cause it amongst other things.

27 years ago I bred to a very popular dog that was out of the most popular dog of all times, he was built like a tank, solid as a rock had veins big as my thumb pumping blood to all his muscles, well female didn’t take so took her back 6 months later and this dog now looked old, fat and out of shape, I said dang is that the same dog and his reply was yea they go down quick when ya stop hunting them, now there was no doubt this dog was doped but I still don’t believe it had anything to do with our thyroid problems.

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Steroids cannot keep from effecting the thyroid there is no way you can avoid it in humans it does.

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Dealings with one dog in the past made me rethink what I do and kind of haunts me.
We all look for that special dog. The truth is that special dog to you may not be the special dog to someone else but that doesn't matter. I had a female that I got when she was close to 2 years old. She was owned by a guy that tried to hog hunt her. That didn't work out and I heard about her and got her. She was Lipper bred up close on every line of her papers. She had that Lipper tree mouth and she was big and pretty. I started her just like I would a pup and she took a liking to coon and made a very nice hound. She was the one dog that made winning look easy. She was the one dog that the competitors actually complement me on. Well she started to gain weight and her hunting slowed down and she went from a hard hunting dog to one that didn't want to hunt. She stopped coming into heat. Like some of the old school comments on here. I wasn't going to put up with that. I culled her. If I had her today I would spend a lot of money with vets fixing her up and seeing what her problem was. I know now in my heart it was Tick related or Thyroid. But I let my old school hard headed ways govern what I did. They say live and learn but when dealing with hounds you had better learn quickly because the good ones don't come in bunches and there is little room for error.

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Dealings with one dog in the past made me rethink what I do and kind of haunts me.
We all look for that special dog. The truth is that special dog to you may not be the special dog to someone else but that doesn't matter. I had a female that I got when she was close to 2 years old. She was owned by a guy that tried to hog hunt her. That didn't work out and I heard about her and got her. She was Lipper bred up close on every line of her papers. She had that Lipper tree mouth and she was big and pretty. I started her just like I would a pup and she took a liking to coon and made a very nice hound. She was the one dog that made winning look easy. She was the one dog that the competitors actually complement me on. Well she started to gain weight and her hunting slowed down and she went from a hard hunting dog to one that didn't want to hunt. She stopped coming into heat. Like some of the old school comments on here. I wasn't going to put up with that. I culled her. If I had her today I would spend a lot of money with vets fixing her up and seeing what her problem was. I know now in my heart it was Tick related or Thyroid. But I let my old school hard headed ways govern what I did. They say live and learn but when dealing with hounds you had better learn quickly because the good ones don't come in bunches and there is little room for error.

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treatment

I have a question for all of you who have had success in treating ehrlichia . What did the Vet treat your dog with and how long was the treatment for .

We used dicyclomine. Used it for 30 days. DO NOT hunt the dog. My dog was in the early stages, but will always test positive for it. Hope this helps.

We used dicyclomine. Used it for 30 days. DO NOT hunt the dog. My dog was in the early stages, but will always test positive for it. Hope this helps.

We used dicyclomine. Used it for 30 days. DO NOT hunt the dog. My dog was in the early stages, but will always test positive for it. Hope this helps.

We used dicyclomine. Used it for 30 days. DO NOT hunt the dog. My dog was in the early stages, but will always test positive for it. Hope this helps.

We used dicyclomine. Used it for 30 days. DO NOT hunt the dog. My dog was in the early stages, but will always test positive for it. Hope this helps.

(2) shot of Imizol and 30 days of Doxycycline 100 mg 3 times a day no hunting was what we used.

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Originally posted by Roy Grant
We used dicyclomine. Used it for 30 days. DO NOT hunt the dog. My dog was in the early stages, but will always test positive for it. Hope this helps.

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Bruce I think tick diseases can lead to thyroid problems but the only one I ever had with a thyroid problem his tick panel was negative and was religiously on bravecto or nexgard. Not much crop fields around here treated with pesticides either but I wonder about these stout tick preventatives.

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Originally posted by darton
I have a question for all of you who have had success in treating ehrlichia . What did the Vet treat your dog with and how long was the treatment for .

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Oh my goodness, an antibiotic has no effect on any symptom. An antibiotic can only kill a germ. There is a strain of Erlichia that is resistant to Doxy and must be treated with Imizol. This is rare but does happen occasionally.