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Posted by ItsOlMander on 04-17-2017 04:17 PM:

Humping. Nothing makes me send one down the road quicker than a moron that tries to hump anything and everything. It's my pet peeve. That and a coondog running a deer. Ugh. There's a lot of traits I don't like, like not enough hunt, or not enough mouth. But I think I'd try to keep one of those around longer to see if they would get better over one that wouldn't stop humping...

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Posted by 2ol2hunt on 04-17-2017 08:48 PM:

One man dog I can live with if I have to but shy around the truck I cannot . It drives me nuts, not many chances here to survive very long!

Posted by msinc on 04-17-2017 09:49 PM:

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Originally posted by pamjohnson
shy
ill
rough
poor voice
poor tracking
poor tree dog
slow
any of this no one can fix and if they can, do us all a favor and don't.

Shy dogs are no good, I agree...but I think now after giving this some thought that there might be a difference between a fault and a defect. Pretty much all of the above quoted post are defective to me. These are not faults that can be changed.
I have seen dogs that were so shy they had to be starved for several days to get them to come to a person. They were born this way and there was zero chance they were going to change. I think this is a defective dog.
To me a fault is something that the dogs does but can probably be changed with some work. Dogs that loose their mind and go on a sheep killing spree is a fault. Dogs that are really severe to run junk is a fault.
Maybe I am wrong, but it seems like a fault is something that can be changed even if it take an e-collar. You are not going to put a collar of any kind on a dog that is defective and change it.

Posted by SLR on 04-18-2017 02:09 AM:

Dogs

Lazy with no hunt

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Posted by novicane65 on 04-18-2017 02:54 AM:

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Originally posted by msinc
Shy dogs are no good, I agree...but I think now after giving this some thought that there might be a difference between a fault and a defect. Pretty much all of the above quoted post are defective to me. These are not faults that can be changed.
I have seen dogs that were so shy they had to be starved for several days to get them to come to a person. They were born this way and there was zero chance they were going to change. I think this is a defective dog.
To me a fault is something that the dogs does but can probably be changed with some work. Dogs that loose their mind and go on a sheep killing spree is a fault. Dogs that are really severe to run junk is a fault.
Maybe I am wrong, but it seems like a fault is something that can be changed even if it take an e-collar. You are not going to put a collar of any kind on a dog that is defective and change it.

I had a male dog a couple years ago that was extremely shy in the kennel. Once outside the kennel he was like any other dog. But he was beaten severely in a kennel. So I understood. Shyness can come from many things. But a shy pup, a true shy/ skiddish pup are hard to work with. Everything you do you have to earn it's trust with. Whether it's teaching commands to showing it a caged coon. And some shyness can be caused from not properly socializing the pup/ young dog.

Posted by msinc on 04-18-2017 12:12 PM:

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Originally posted by novicane65
I had a male dog a couple years ago that was extremely shy in the kennel. Once outside the kennel he was like any other dog. But he was beaten severely in a kennel. So I understood. Shyness can come from many things. But a shy pup, a true shy/ skiddish pup are hard to work with. Everything you do you have to earn it's trust with. Whether it's teaching commands to showing it a caged coon. And some shyness can be caused from not properly socializing the pup/ young dog.

Yeah, I have seen puppies that were made shy by some idiot and that is a shame. Those dogs, with the right owner, usually come out of it and be okay. I will also say that a little bit of shyness around strangers can be a good thing, because a dog thief wont be able to get his hands on the dog. The bad ones I am talking about are the ones that were born shy. Nothing happened to them other than birth and they always stayed that way.
I have also had very young puppies act a little skittish when I first brought them home and they were away from their litter mates for the first time....that always scares me.

Posted by smokinNitro on 04-18-2017 12:34 PM:

Dogs that leave tree or jack the tree
Extremely shy or timid
Chop mouthed track dogs on a hound I expect it from my cur

Posted by gpent24 on 04-18-2017 04:06 PM:

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Originally posted by smokinNitro
Dogs that leave tree or jack the tree
Extremely shy or timid
Chop mouthed track dogs on a hound I expect it from my cur

So you consider a chop mouth on track a fault? What is one supposed to do on track? bawl? so is a bawl mouth tree dog a fault? I think that's a preference and not so much a fault lol.

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Posted by Larry Atherton on 04-18-2017 07:07 PM:

Barking in the kennel.
Barking in the dog box.
A dog that barks as soon as unleashed and never quits barking.
A full open chop mouth dog without a obvious locate.
I have actually seen dogs do all of above, and I can't stand one of them alone.

A STUPID dog!

To: 2ol2hunt

They can start learning commands at 6-9 weeks old. I have had 9-12 week old pups who could follow many voice commands and even some hand signals. This is usually a good way to judge intelligence. I also spend a lot of time watching pups run loose.

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Posted by J. Pinson on 04-20-2017 02:32 PM:

If everybody

If everybody culled over some of the stuff you guys listed, where are all these horrible traits coming from? Lol

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Posted by 2ol2hunt on 04-20-2017 02:46 PM:

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