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Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey

My goal is to supply the person who gets a pup from me one that will bring it genetics to the table and make it easy for that person to train. A pup that excites the person and gives the person the feeling it has something to work with. Unfortunately the environment side usually kicks in about then and like mentioned. A lot of the pups don't get a chance. I am also learning that these dogs even though you think they should be, are not suited for all locations and all people. Some young dogs go to several places before someone figures out how to put the polish on them and make them shine.

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Mike I liked what you said about your Dad. That ability is what separates people who own hounds.

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IMO everything is objective. Your average is my outstanding. I am trying to maintain certain traits within certain bloodlines and only raise pups when I need them. It has been my experience that if you raise a litter of 8 and keep them all, hunt them all the same, 4 will make MY average coon hound, 3 will take a short walk, and 1 MIGHT have what I am looking for. They all don't make it, no matter where they come from. Again everything is objective. I know hard hunters that are very good dog men that would love to have a few that have taken that short walk. I hunt with a group of pleasure hunters that are very hard to please and terribly honest about theirs and mine. They don't show up at the hunts often, but when they do they are packing a dog.
The numbers in the magazine are just numbers. Too many uncontrollable variables to be more than just numbers. Just my opinion.

OK, let's say that the percentage of decent dogs in a litter is not 10-20% and say it is more like 50-60%. That is still not success in my book. The bar is set way too low.

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Bruce I was just using the few mentioned as a reference. And you're not just breeding the bitch to breed her. You have a vision, might not be as in-depth as some others. But none the less a vision. We as houndsmen should strive for better. We should strive to have a better dog than what we currently have. Just like the houndsmen of old did. They bred for traits. They sure didn't do it for money.

Titles

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Originally posted by RedScorpion
OK, let's say that the percentage of decent dogs in a litter is not 10-20% and say it is more like 50-60%. That is still not success in my book. The bar is set way too low.

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Originally posted by MIKE CARDER
How many litters has anyone seen where each pup earned a hunting title. I seen a litter of beagles once out of a sire named Fire River Michael and WhiteRiver Lulu. All were hbch and bench champions. How many coonhounds have done it.

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Originally posted by Bruce m. Conkey
Mike I liked what you said about your Dad. That ability is what separates people who own hounds.

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Trainable

My dad always said that the Finley River line was the easiest to train. Had several out of niteheat that were trainable. But Finley River were quick to learn.

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Originally posted by N Williams
They can say want they want but the ukc reproducers list is why there is a problem with accuracy in our hounds. A hound that throws a high percentage of tree dogs makes it easy for the overall public to be able to win a few cast. I've heard people say the $$$ hunts are the problem but I disagree. as long as the titles are easy to get then we set our standards to low in the breeding pen To many titles are earned in people's back yard. Most people that coonhunt and breed have no clue as to what you need to have an Elite compitition hound.

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Originally posted by N Williams
They can say want they want but the ukc reproducers list is why there is a problem with accuracy in our hounds. A hound that throws a high percentage of tree dogs makes it easy for the overall public to be able to win a few cast. I've heard people say the $$$ hunts are the problem but I disagree. as long as the titles are easy to get then we set our standards to low in the breeding pen To many titles are earned in people's back yard. Most people that coonhunt and breed have no clue as to what you need to have an Elite compitition hound.

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Lack of hunting IMO.. people buy a well bred pup and expect it to be a winner after 3 or 4 hunts.. when that doesn't happen they begin to trade or sell to someone else that won't ever give it a chance.. before you know it the pup is 4 years old and been hunted about 25 times.. I've seen this happen with many, many pups.. very few guys hunt enough to own a young dog..