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Posted by ringtail on 08-05-2016 04:04 AM:

Tom, I disagree.

Trump wasn't my 1st choice, but he is a heck of a lot better than Hillary....... I get so aggravated and don't like some of the crap he says, but I also agree with a lot of other stuff he says.

I get what you're saying about the media, but I also know if they ignored and covered Trump the way they do Hillary and covered Hillary the same way they do Trump, he would be leading her by 50 points.

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Posted by ringtail on 08-05-2016 04:09 AM:

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Originally posted by Well Started
Lets see. 3 major news stories that fell in Trumps lap that he squandered away.

1. 1.2% GDP growth report. Horrible numbers.

2. Hillary getting caught once again on video lying in an interview on the Sunday show with Chris Wallace.

3. Possible government cover up of laundering money to pay Iran a 400 million ransom fee in exchange for prisoners.

What did Trump do? Made his own news to bury each of these as they came out. Sometimes on the same day. None of which had a thing to do with defeating Hillary or making America great again.

1. Doubled down on the Kahn debacle and added the question of whether the Muslim mother was not allowed to speak because she's Muslim.

2. Tried to get off the Kahn debacle he poured fuel on, by proclaiming the elections are rigged due to the debate schedule (that was set and known last September) that have 2 dates during NFL games. Claimed the NFL wrote him a letter complaining about it. NFL promptly denied that claim.

3. Made more news saying he might not endorse Paul Ryan or John McCain in their re-election races. Also said during this same time frame that he might take out a Super Pac against Ted Cruz.

All of that is great if he's just trying to get all kinds of air time. All of it was counter productive to defeating Hillary.

Well started,
I can't disagree with any of this. You are right. But As bad as it is, it's not as bad as the alternative (Hillary)

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Posted by Well Started on 08-05-2016 04:15 AM:

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Originally posted by TomPurdy
Guy's you're going to have to get over the media! Trump loads their gun for them every hour on the hour. The largest news outlet Fox is not exactly objective either. When your prime time anchor is Sean Hannity it's hard to complain about a bias in the media! He has carried Trumps water for months. Now he's being exposed for what he is, a horrible candidate! The media is doing what the media does. No need making excuses as bad as Hillary is Trumps worse.

x 10 on the media!!

I've been keeping my mouth shut about this long enough. I almost stopped watching Fox news during the primaries because some of it was as disgusting as the shameful "tingle up my leg every time he speaks" gushing that Chris Mathews displayed about Obama.

Eric Bolig, Judge Jeanine, Lou Dobbs. Made every excuse in the book for Trump and disparaged and mocked other candidates. I watched O'Reilly press Lou Dobbs to just name 1 thing he didn't like about Trump, and Dobbs refused to do it. I criticized MSNBC and their obvious bias with Obama, and the same goes with some of Fox News anchors. When you have that much of a blind bias and loyal following from news anchors, it's a dangerous thing.

Posted by TomPurdy on 08-05-2016 04:18 AM:

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Originally posted by ringtail
Tom, I disagree.

Trump wasn't my 1st choice, but he is a heck of a lot better than Hillary....... I get so aggravated and don't like some of the crap he says, but I also agree with a lot of other stuff he says.

I get what you're saying about the media, but I also know if they ignored and covered Trump the way they do Hillary and covered Hillary the same way they do Trump, he would be leading her by 50 points.

Ringtail, good post I disagree, but it was still a good post!

I don't see Trump being any better than Hillary. If he is it's because of the GOP not him. As for the media there is almost no objective outlets anymore. I will say that the right media is to blame for this Trump mess. They gave him legs. They never questioned or vetted him in anyway. The spin they put on him is astounding, if they would have done their job Trumps a laugher, and we are toasting Hillary. Fox, Brietbart, Drudge are completely in the tank for Trump(checkout Brietbarts latest masterpiece). Trump is a ratings machine, and their after ratings not truth or principal as we are harshly finding out.

Posted by ringtail on 08-05-2016 04:27 AM:

I don't watch the news any more. 3 or 4 minutes at a time then flip to the western channel or hunting channel. My mind is made up, I'm voting for Supreme Court appointments so it doesn't matter to me who fox or MSNBC is backing.

It boils down to two choices Trump or Clinton.

There is nothing the media or anybody else can do or say to get me to vote for Hillary.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-05-2016 04:31 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Well Started
Lets see. 3 major news stories that fell in Trumps lap that he squandered away.

1. 1.2% GDP growth report. Horrible numbers.

2. Hillary getting caught once again on video lying in an interview on the Sunday show with Chris Wallace.

3. Possible government cover up of laundering money to pay Iran a 400 million ransom fee in exchange for prisoners.

What did Trump do? Made his own news to bury each of these as they came out. Sometimes on the same day. None of which had a thing to do with defeating Hillary or making America great again.

1. Doubled down on the Kahn debacle and added the question of whether the Muslim mother was not allowed to speak because she's Muslim.

2. Tried to get off the Kahn debacle he poured fuel on, by proclaiming the elections are rigged due to the debate schedule (that was set and known last September) that have 2 dates during NFL games. Claimed the NFL wrote him a letter complaining about it. NFL promptly denied that claim.

3. Made more news saying he might not endorse Paul Ryan or John McCain in their re-election races. Also said during this same time frame that he might take out a Super Pac against Ted Cruz.

All of that is great if he's just trying to get all kinds of air time. All of it was counter productive to defeating Hillary.

When I read down this list, I can't help but ask what if. I'm trying to get over those (mostly good meaning) people who got this clown nominated, but I admit it's a struggle.

Posted by ringtail on 08-05-2016 04:35 AM:

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Originally posted by TomPurdy
Ringtail, good post I disagree, but it was still a good post!

I don't see Trump being any better than Hillary. If he is it's because of the GOP not him. As for the media there is almost no objective outlets anymore. I will say that the right media is to blame for this Trump mess. They gave him legs. They never questioned or vetted him in anyway. The spin they put on him is astounding, if they would have done their job Trumps a laugher, and we are toasting Hillary. Fox, Brietbart, Drudge are completely in the tank for Trump(checkout Brietbarts latest masterpiece). Trump is a ratings machine, and their after ratings not truth or principal as we are harshly finding out.

We're in a dang mess and that's all it is too it.

The GOP made their mistake 2 years ago. They wouldn't listen to the people. Then again 12 months ago when they didn't take Trump serious, they ALL laughed at him and said he didn't have a chance. They caused it by not listening to the people.

The demos came real close to doing the same thing with Bernie.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-05-2016 04:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ringtail
I don't watch the news any more. 3 or 4 minutes at a time then flip to the western channel or hunting channel. My mind is made up, I'm voting for Supreme Court appointments so it doesn't matter to me who fox or MSNBC is backing.

It boils down to two choices Trump or Clinton.

There is nothing the media or anybody else can do or say to get me to vote for Hillary.

I can respect that! Though I very much question who Trump will appoint, and when he comes unglued who's going to oppose him? His own party? Speaking of the Supreme Court as it stands right now we ought to take a real hard look at Merrick Garland. I knows he's an Obama appointee, but he's somewhat moderate, because the republicans control both house, and senate. With the polls starting to show Hillary with double digit leads, that means we are going to loose senate seats. Which means Hillary will most likely appoint an Elizabeth Warren type. I'll take Garland! It goes from bad to worse!

Posted by ringtail on 08-05-2016 05:05 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by TomPurdy
I can respect that! Though I very much question who Trump will appoint, and when he comes unglued who's going to oppose him? His own party? Speaking of the Supreme Court as it stands right now we ought to take a real hard look at Merrick Garland. I knows he's an Obama appointee, but he's somewhat moderate, because the republicans control both house, and senate. With the polls starting to show Hillary with double digit leads, that means we are going to loose senate seats. Which means Hillary will most likely appoint an Elizabeth Warren type. I'll take Garland! It goes from bad to worse!

You have a point about Garland....... the good thing about the Trump ticket is Mike Pence.. if he goes off the reservation, the GOP, his own party will be the 1st ones screaming impeach. They won't have any opposition from the Dems on impeaching. If they do that Pence will take over.

They will fight him a whole lot harder than they will Hillary. The Mickey mouse Republicans (with the exception of Cruz and a couple others) will give in to Hillary just like they do big O.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-05-2016 05:24 AM:

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Originally posted by ringtail
You have a point about Garland....... the good thing about the Trump ticket is Mike Pence.. if he goes off the reservation, the GOP, his own party will be the 1st ones screaming impeach. They won't have any opposition from the Dems on impeaching. If they do that Pence will take over.

They will fight him a whole lot harder than they will Hillary. The Mickey mouse Republicans (with the exception of Cruz and a couple others) will give in to Hillary just like they do big O.

That's a good thought, but in reality it hasn't happened. I haven't heard Pence or anyone eles reign Trump in when he picked up the liberal banner on minimum wage. Or where was Pence when Trump came unglued this week? I like Pence and would do backflips to vote for him over Hillary. But I've seen no evidence that anyone can real Trump in. He appears to be a egotistic maniac.

As for the Mickey Mouse republicans. I disagree!! If what we are told about Obama is true. The only thing that keeps You and I from kneeling on a prayer mat facing Mecca 5 times a day is the Mickey Mouse republicans. If it's true that they don't stand up to Obama why is it all he can get done is through executive orders? That's some of that media like AFR, Limbaugh, Hannity, and so on talk. The reality is we should be thanking God for these guys! When you have a president like Obama gridlock is a beautiful thing, and they've locked him down as well as they can!

Posted by Redneck Mafia on 08-05-2016 03:58 PM:

Shawn Lucus found dead was the Burnie supporter who served papers on the DNC, Seth Rich many believe he was the inside source for emails he worked for the DNC & John Ashe drops a bar bell on his neck the day before testifying in a case that implicates clinton. These are all more deaths in last month or so. And then in last few days an ex-FBI agent who died in a raid in 2007 was arrested at Trump tower with a hand gun w/ silencer, you may ask how was a dead man arrested, the nypd would also like the answer to this question.

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Posted by oklared on 08-06-2016 03:24 PM:

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Posted by oklared on 08-06-2016 03:28 PM:

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Originally posted by TomPurdy
I can respect that! Though I very much question who Trump will appoint, and when he comes unglued who's going to oppose him? His own party? Speaking of the Supreme Court as it stands right now we ought to take a real hard look at Merrick Garland. I knows he's an Obama appointee, but he's somewhat moderate, because the republicans control both house, and senate. With the polls starting to show Hillary with double digit leads, that means we are going to loose senate seats. Which means Hillary will most likely appoint an Elizabeth Warren type. I'll take Garland! It goes from bad to worse!

THERE IS NO REASON TO APPOINT A S. JUDGE NOW, WAIT WAIT WAIT, TILL JAN 17

Posted by ScottCK 6 on 08-06-2016 04:36 PM:

Hillarys comment about the 400,000,000 cash to Iran, it's tit for tat it's old news.

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Posted by ScottCK 6 on 08-06-2016 09:40 PM:

I can't wait for the debates, they will need a AED on stage for Hillary , Trump will hammer her record, and the choking, lying , coughing will begin, Bernie busted her tail in every debate, all Bernie said was WALLSTREET and FREE COLLEGE. The woman hasn't gave a real interview or press conference yet, well maybe Chris Wallace on Sunday, lied five times in that one, every other interview she has had DNC told the news agencies what they could and could not ask. At least that's how they're hacked emails read. Never been challenged.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 08-07-2016 03:51 AM:

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Originally posted by oklared
THERE IS NO REASON TO APPOINT A S. JUDGE NOW, WAIT WAIT WAIT, TILL JAN 17

Why wait until Jan 17? So we can be assured the justice is Elizabeth Warren! We have to use our heads. Trump is paving the way for Hillary, and the dens in both the house and senate.

Posted by TomPurdy on 08-07-2016 03:58 AM:

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Originally posted by ScottCK 6
I can't wait for the debates, they will need a AED on stage for Hillary , Trump will hammer her record, and the choking, lying , coughing will begin, Bernie busted her tail in every debate, all Bernie said was WALLSTREET and FREE COLLEGE. The woman hasn't gave a real interview or press conference yet, well maybe Chris Wallace on Sunday, lied five times in that one, every other interview she has had DNC told the news agencies what they could and could not ask. At least that's how they're hacked emails read. Never been challenged.

Scott, do you really think Trump is capable of speaking 45 min on foreign policy? He hasn't spoken 45 mins on foreign policy since his campaign started! Trump's not going to be able to hid behind anyone else on stage, and use hand gestures, and one liners. It might be in his best interest to pick a fight with a news anchor, and skip the debates. It's worked for him before! Hillary is bad but she can locate Asia on a map. I have my doubts Trump can!

Posted by ScottCK 6 on 08-07-2016 01:21 PM:

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Originally posted by TomPurdy
Scott, do you really think Trump is capable of speaking 45 min on foreign policy? He hasn't spoken 45 mins on foreign policy since his campaign started! Trump's not going to be able to hid behind anyone else on stage, and use hand gestures, and one liners. It might be in his best interest to pick a fight with a news anchor, and skip the debates. It's worked for him before! Hillary is bad but she can locate Asia on a map. I have my doubts Trump can!

I would say he probably can, sure he owns something tremendous over there.

But since we are talking geography, I think it would be Impossible for Hillary, Obama or Lewis and Clark to find a stable country in the Middle East and a lot of Europe on the Map, which is directly related to Hillarys "Foreign Policy".

Europe is their own baby, but their leadership has the same beliefs as Hillary, Obama and Kerry. On the brink of civil war, but guess what they are disarmed, so they are going to continue to eat the crap sandwich.

I am positive Hillary agreed with John Kerry's foreign policy which consists of I quote( refrigeration is a bigger threat to mankind, than terrorism) said after the France bus attack. 2/3 of the USA population would be dead in a month from starvation, without refrigeration . The rest would be in TEXAS (Gave Chris a shout out).

The fact is Foreign policy is just a cliche a pundit talking point, Forein Policy is a fluid situation nothing set in stone, in other words, you can't solve a problem if you do not know what it is. Probably not many plans in place of Canada invades, well maybe there is, probably like the invasion we are experiencing from Mexico , come on in its free.

Trumps foreign policy on Israel is to remain nuetral, Ofcourse the pundits started screaming he is abandoning our Allies , but if they would have listened he explained his meaning, you see every time Israel goes into a negotiation it isn't really, it is a signing, because of the fact that our feckless leadership gets a list of Irans demands and tells Israel this is how it's going to be, not a good way to treat an Allie.

Since we are on Israel, Onama spent I think 250 million of taxpayer money, on a massive ground game in Israel trying to defeat Benjamin Netanyahu, in favor of his liberal opponent . Which would further destabilize the region.

So yes I hope the debates stay on the Hillarys lack of successful foreign policy and economy and she will finish herself. Edit change possible to impossible.

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Posted by ScottCK 6 on 08-07-2016 01:52 PM:

Want to clarify without editing, on the remaining nuetral what Trump said was Israel should be able to go into negotiations with a clean slate not with the terms of the agreement laid out before they meet. Makes sense to me.

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