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Posted by Kevin Jackson on 03-23-2016 03:07 PM:

There is no again Richard. I am just asking. Never have heard anything but people talking on here. Figure the best way to find out is to get the answer from the man that owns her. I know little about Jake. I've talked to guys that told me Buck and Rose were redbones but I don't know anymore than that. Are you saying Jake was crossbred? I have no idea and that's why I ask. Not everyone asks questions to cause conflict. Some people just want to know facts because they are curious believe it or not. If you could tell me all about Jake's breeding that would be awesome. He was a big winner so it won't be off topic and you seem to know something. I have Jake blood in my dogs and would love to know the facts. Not campfire stories or "I heard", just facts. Thanks. Whatever Cali is there's no denying that she is a winner.

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Posted by Tony Dominguez on 03-23-2016 03:18 PM:

There's only been 4 maybe 5 dogs I'd classify as BIG WINNERS in the 2000's, that means won at major events CONSISTENTLY, not locally & 1 big lick.

GCH Grnitech Classy Cali
GCH Grnitech Sandy Creek Jake
Grnitech Nighty Night Moonlight Kate
SCH Grnitech Jon Henry

Help me out if I'm wrong

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GRAND SHOW CH
CHKC GRCH (all time $ leader)
PKC PLATINUM CH (all time $ leader)
2016 RESERVE FALL SUPER STAKE CH (only redbone to ever make the final 4)

Grnitech PKC CH Night Stalkin roxie
2018 top 16 PKC redbone breed
2018 Top 16 PA state race
2019 National Redbone days Champion

Walker:
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Frost Bite Zoey

UKC Dual Grand, PKC Silver Ch, CHKC Champion
Dirty Little Tramp
Russ Myer hunt winner $20,000
Final 4 PKC super stakes

Past:
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GRCH GRNITECH 'PR' Outlaw Jack
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Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-23-2016 03:54 PM:

I don't know anything about Jake's breeding. I just noticed that he had a lot of white on him and that is why I asked. There was a whole thread about Calli on here and someone posted her pedigree.

Tony, I seem to remember one named Mongo that was a Silver Champion but I think that he mostly just won at little events. That was a long time ago however. You might not have been born then. And there was Gr Nt Ch In It To Win It Reba. She won at a couple of pretty big UKC hunts. And there was Gr Nt Ch Trumps Tree Jammin Dixie. She won at a couple of pretty big UKC hunts and a few in that other kennel club. My memory isn't all that good anymore but I seem to remember those 3. But you are right, the ones that you listed did do some winning also.

Oh my goodness, I don't see Gr Nt Ch Jackpot Jackie on your list either? And I thought that my memory was bad.

Posted by Kevin Jackson on 03-23-2016 04:43 PM:

Richard, are you part walker? You've got a lot of white on you lol. Is a dog that wins consistently in the hunts it's put in any less of a dog if it isn't put in big hunts? Some people just can't make many big hunts. Does that make their dog less of a dog than the one that's got deep pockets pushing it? Little off topic. Congrats to all you guys that are promoting and winning with these nice dogs. Hope someday I get to see one of them go. I've got a dog out Jake and got to see Kate go at the world hunt in 2007. Other than that I've just read about the others on here. Hope to see more big winners in the redbone breed in the future.

Posted by Johnny Ray on 03-23-2016 04:55 PM:

Cali II

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness, here we go again. Was Sandy Creek Jake half walker also? He sure did have a lot of white on him.

Dang, I might have a great big storm brewing if this is true. Sandy Creek Jake(walker) + Timber Jack = Cali II $$$ ,, haha ,, Maybe that walker blood is where Sadie gets her "ADHD"?

Posted by elvis on 03-23-2016 05:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Dominguez
There's only been 4 maybe 5 dogs I'd classify as BIG WINNERS in the 2000's, that means won at major events CONSISTENTLY, not locally & 1 big lick.

GCH Grnitech Classy Cali
GCH Grnitech Sandy Creek Jake
Grnitech Nighty Night Moonlight Kate
SCH Grnitech Jon Henry

Help me out if I'm wrong

Getahead lil Red
Grand American Overall Winner
Ukc World Champion Redbone
Acha World Champion Redbone 2nd overall
Walker Days Overall winner
Russ Meyer Invitational 23,000.00 Winner

She won those hunts and more in 1 year before getting killed.
Granted, she was crossbred and was single registered as a redbone so in many eyes she didnt count.

Posted by Larry D Walker on 03-23-2016 05:29 PM:

Jake x bred

I dont think its ever been a secret that Jake was a x bred,,

Just unclear if it was walker or english..

Freak was in 2 final 4 Pro hunts last yr as a 1 yr old,,hunting against dogs like Meltdown, Woody 11 and many others and beating a few of them.

She also won American days opposite sex ch scoring over 1500 plus as a 1 yr old.

Also won a UKC super slam and qualified for the grand masters drawing and hunting against top hounds one bein a ukc world ch. when she came in heat..

After raising a litter of pups and a 4 month lay up she is now ready to compete and better than ever,,

She has not proved herself to be a Big Hunt Winner yet,,,,

She has never lost a ukc cast,,,and has won some pretty major hunts..

If she gets behind the right handler,,,I pretty sure she has the ability to prove herself to be a big winner..

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Posted by Tony Dominguez on 03-23-2016 06:04 PM:

I've missed a few, but not to many. Little Red was a dang nice one, Jackpot proved herself as well... Larry Freak has been good to both you & Ki, Ki is a good handler, ya'll keep up the good work & keep clicking! I know for a fact Sulphur River Buck & Sulphur River Rose was 100% redbone.

Posted by swordshag on 03-24-2016 02:48 AM:

Sandy Creek Jake

I have a NiteCH Male that is out of a double Sandy Creek Jake Bitch. In the 7th generation I find nothing but Redbones. Ramblin Red Ace is one of them, I know Jake had a big white patch on his chest and heard that was the reason some would not breed to him. Mike Swords

Posted by JShelton on 03-24-2016 05:06 AM:

So if a dog is a big time winner its gotta be half redbone half something else. And if its full bloodded redbone it can only win back yard club hunts.

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Posted by Kevin Jackson on 03-24-2016 06:27 AM:

Jerry I hope not. If that's the case I'm screwed. Probably won't even be able to get a cast win lol.

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-24-2016 02:27 PM:

Jerry and Kevin, both SCH Mongo and SCH Danno were/are 100% Redbone. So there is hope for you. Purebred Redbones have done pretty good in UKC hunts and that is what y'all hunt anyway so y'all stand a chance if you can get the right dog.

I love to live in the past since I am all washed up now. But enough of that, who are going to be the Big Winners this summer? There will be a little hunt in Sullivan, Indiana in 2 weeks to start it off. Can Fancy, Dew, Shine or Freak pull off a win there?

Posted by swordshag on 03-24-2016 02:38 PM:

Lil Red

quote:
Originally posted by elvis
Getahead lil Red
Grand American Overall Winner
Ukc World Champion Redbone
Acha World Champion Redbone 2nd overall
Walker Days Overall winner
Russ Meyer Invitational 23,000.00 Winner

She won those hunts and more in 1 year before getting killed.
Granted, she was crossbred and was single registered as a redbone so in many eyes she didnt count.

What a dog she must have been. I was at the Grand American the year she won. Must have been 10 degrees and wind blowing. She was in the cast with three redbones and a walker. One of them was Ranger and the other older redbone female from NC. Also tell them what her score was at Walker Days. She blew them away. I felt heartbroke when she got killed.

Posted by Crazy Luke on 03-24-2016 02:39 PM:

Don't know

Don't know . But Jon Henry's picture was on the $KC web page a few times before he was killed. I know he was a Silver Ch. but do not know the level of hunts he won. Danno was also running the race during that time. I know they were both Silver Ch. I am hoping my Jon Jr dog has the same abilities as these two because, Jon is his daddy and Mississippi is his momma. I know she is at least a half sister to Danno through Guitars Ghost. Maybe a full sister. He is a real natural tree dog. Anyway Jon and Danno are two nice dogs that might be added to the conversation.

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-24-2016 02:52 PM:

Crazy Man, we can add them to the conversation about dogs of the past. What big hunts did they win? Are you saying that your dog, Jon Jr is going to win a couple of Big Hunts this summer? Anyone can always add whatever they want to my "conversations". After all, it is just a bunch of "talk" anyway. We will have to wait for this summer to get "the facts".

Posted by kasey dooly on 03-24-2016 03:18 PM:

Danno is still alive and well! And no he hasn't hit a big lick and prolly never will. But if y'all think for one minute that a dog that hits a big lick at one time is a bigger winner then one that has combined over 100 CWS i n 3 registries all over the country then y'all have problems! I'm a working man with limited funds. I'm not poor and I'm not starving but I can't afford to hit all the big hunts I'd like to. I'm hard headed and I'm gonna hunt Danno on my dime. Like it or not we re here to stay!

Posted by swordshag on 03-24-2016 09:44 PM:

Re: Sandy Creek Jake

quote:
Originally posted by swordshag
I have a NiteCH Male that is out of a double Sandy Creek Jake Bitch. In the 7th generation I find nothing but Redbones. Ramblin Red Ace is one of them, I know Jake had a big white patch on his chest and heard that was the reason some would not breed to him. Mike Swords

These are the males in the 4th Gen of Jake. Do you see any Walkers?
Taylor's Red Rattler
Jim's Big Red
Ramblin Red Ace
Milliken's Red Tonto
Tony's Red dog I
Country Music Ringo *?
Rob's Red Ringo
Melton's Red Fireball

Posted by A.Berresford on 03-24-2016 10:04 PM:

Re: Re: Sandy Creek Jake

quote:
Originally posted by swordshag
These are the males in the 4th Gen of Jake. Do you see any Walkers?
Taylor's Red Rattler
Jim's Big Red
Ramblin Red Ace
Milliken's Red Tonto
Tony's Red dog I
Country Music Ringo *?
Rob's Red Ringo
Melton's Red Fireball

That is irrelevant unless you believe nobody has ever falsified papers. And I'm not saying these ones were, just making a point.

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Posted by swordshag on 03-25-2016 12:55 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Sandy Creek Jake

quote:
Originally posted by A.Berresford
That is irrelevant unless you believe nobody has ever falsified papers. And I'm not saying these ones were, just making a point.

The papers as we get them stands as there are because back several years ago DNA was not used. I would say a percentage of dogs had papers put on them. I never saw a black muzzle in the redbones before Hunters Timber Chopper. So who can say unless we raised them for many generations ourselves. In the case of Timber Chopper we
can't complain because most all redbones today carries a lot of his breeding. It could have been a gene thing from many years before him. Lets leave it at that.

Posted by ahallada on 03-25-2016 03:45 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Sandy Creek Jake

quote:
Originally posted by swordshag
The papers as we get them stands as there are because back several years ago DNA was not used. I would say a percentage of dogs had papers put on them. I never saw a black muzzle in the redbones before Hunters Timber Chopper. So who can say unless we raised them for many generations ourselves. In the case of Timber Chopper we
can't complain because most all redbones today carries a lot of his breeding. It could have been a gene thing from many years before him. Lets leave it at that.

Black Mouthed Curr dogs, that's no secret. That's where the brains, hard Treeing abilities, and accuracy comes from. They were bred to put the meat on the table.

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Dual Grand Champion CHKC Ch., PKC Gold Ch. All Grand Outlaw G-Man
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Timber Jack 3X and Timber Chopper over 30X
2019 Southern National Redbone Days Champion
2016 National Grand Nite Champion Redbone
2016 CHKC Redbone Days Champion
2016 PKC Super Stakes Reserve Champion
2016 CHKC Elite Shootout Winner - Texas
CHKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

Bodacious
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Gr.Ch.PKC. Gold Ch.CHKC CH. Outlaw G-Man x Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. CHKC Ch., PKC Gold Ch. Classy Cali)

Past:
Gr.Nt.Ch.Ch. Dawns Timber Jack
1988 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner
1989 UKC World Champion Redbone
1989 Purina Outstanding Redbone Coonhound
#2 Historic Redbone Sire/ Top 20 All Breeds
American Redbone Coonhound Assoc. Hall of Fame

Gr.Nt.Ch. Bussrow Bottom Brandy II
1991 American Redbone Days Champion
1992 AKC World Champion Redbone
1992 ACHA World Champion Redbone
1992 Wisconsin State Champion
1994 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex
Produced 2 Nt. Ch. , 1 Gr.Nt.Ch. out of 2 litters and two Redbone Days Winners

Gr.Nt.Ch.Gr.Ch. PKC Gold Ch. Layton's Classy Cali
2012 UKC World Champion Redbone and 7th Place Overall
2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 UKC World Champion Redbone Female
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - Goodsprings, AL
2015 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Series Race - 3rd Place Overall
2016 PKC Blue Ribbon Pro Hunt Winner - New Albany, MS
2016 PKC Texas State Race Winner
2016 PKC Redbone Breed Race Winner
PKC All Time Money Winning Redbone

PKC Ch. Gr.Nt.Ch. Coffman's Smokin Red Buck
2016 UKC World Hunt 5th Place and World Champion Redbone
2016 National Redbone Days Overall Winner

Gr.Nt.Ch. Reinhart's Central Page
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Brandy II)

Gr.Nt.Ch. Too the Maxx
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Jenkins Crying Katie)
1992 National Redbone Days Champion

Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Ambraw River Rock
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack x Gr.Ch.Nt.Ch. Hersh's Huntin Red Kate)
1992 US Redbone Days Opposite Sex

Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle
1986 American Redbone Days All Red Hunt Winner

Nt.Ch. Timber Mace
(Gr.Nt.Ch. Timber Jack X Nt.Ch. Tree Bustin Annabelle)
Mother of Gr.Nt.Ch. Babb's Hazel

Nt. Ch. Timber Shock
(Gr.Nt.Ch.Timber Jack x Gr.Nt.Ch. Outlaw Jessie)

Gr. Ch. Nt. Ch. Squaw Mountain Goldie
(Direct Daughter of Gr.Nt.Ch.Smokey Mountain Brandy)
1990 Autumn Oaks Best of Show Winner
1988 Indiana State Champion

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