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Posted by jerhovt on 03-09-2016 09:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
"We're all on the same team"????? Have you ever seen or heard of any kind of athletic event or contest where everyone was "on the same team"? What kind of game would that be?

To answer this the olympics would categorize as the same idea as the redbone team I think!!

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Posted by jkhutch on 03-09-2016 09:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Jared, are you saying that you and your dad are going to start your own team and will be competing against everyone else?

Or maybe I should just be a reserve for all the teams, kinda like a free agent..

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Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 03-09-2016 10:13 PM:

Re: Questions.

quote:
Originally posted by Sawblade
Richard ,why do you ask so many questions ? I added up just the questions you have on this post alone and it's at an even 30.
Are you trying to get people in trouble ? Why is it that you constantly do this questioning thing? Are you working for the NSA ? The FBI ? The CIA ? The NRCA ? Which one of the covert organizations is it ?
How do we know we can trust you ? Are you a secret moderator for UKC ? How about PKC ? Are you a spy ? What is your full name ? It that hair really your own ?
Who are you voting for for president ? What hunt will you be going to this weekend ? Do you have a guide already set up ? Is the card filled out yet ? ROTFLMAO.

I got Richard pegged as a Sander's supporter.... he just always looks like he is feeling the Bern :P

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Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 03-09-2016 10:22 PM:

Re: Big difference

quote:
Originally posted by timber hunter
between bragging a little and gossiping, running other people down and their dogs down!!!!!

Thats the real problem in this breed...it isnt those who actively promote their dogs and what they are doing in the breed...even to the extent that some may think it sounds like bragging or boasting...its the few bad apples who get jealous and start attacking those who are just promoting and being proud of their dogs and accomplishments.
We should never be on this board attacking or tearing down the accomplishments of other redbone people...thats bad for the breed...and the sport.
I remember people who do things like that...and usually avoid them....but everyone else I try to help and encourage any way I can. I love to compete....in most things I do...been like that all my life. My dad always told me...what ever you do...try to do your best...and I always have....

Posted by Larry D Walker on 03-09-2016 10:35 PM:

I be your huckleberry !!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Adam Wingler

GO Ahead Make My Day !!!!

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Posted by Corey Gruver on 03-09-2016 10:45 PM:

Richard

I always took you as a John Madden of sorts

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Posted by David Richardson on 03-09-2016 10:58 PM:

James 3:5-8

Even so the tongue is a little member and boasts great things. See how great a forest a little fire kindles! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell. For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind. But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

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Posted by Adam Wingler on 03-09-2016 11:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert

Adam, Kelly and Oldtimer, I thought that we said that there wouldn't be any "negative attack ads"?

I never agreed to anything. And what's this "we" stuff, did you ask me to join your team? 😄

Posted by Danny Barrett on 03-09-2016 11:07 PM:

Richard

quote:
Originally posted by David Richardson
James 3:5-8

Even so the tongue is a little member and boasts great things. See how great a forest a little fire kindles! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell. For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind. But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

Now see what you started Lambert...lol

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Posted by kilby83 on 03-09-2016 11:13 PM:

I think we all chose to be on the same team when we snapped a lead to a red do. The breeding and traits define the team in general not individual teams within the breed just as player personalities are different in sports but they all still play for the same team. Ego and pride may change how they feel about each other or how they work together but their still on one team just as we are. I think if we accepted the fact that we all have something a little different and worked with each other to improve what we had no matter the names on the papers a red would have won the world long ago. As long as the thought that we are all working individually we will not get there

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-09-2016 11:49 PM:

Oh my goodness, David, that sure does sound good in theory but where has it gotten us? I think that we will get farther if we work against each other. I like to call that "competition". It "seems to me" that a little jealousy, bickering, bragging, attacking and or tearing down may be just what we need to inspire us to put forth a little more effort. I know that it inspires me to try a little harder. "Just getting along" only inspires complacency. And I was just joking about the complaining and negativity. I think that we might need a little more. Just look back a couple of years to when there was a lot more "competition" on this board and at the hunts. Everyone was all fired up and we were getting a lot more accomplished. The hunts were exciting and fun to attend. But then UKC stepped in with an iron fist and everyone decided to just "get along". How did that work out? ....BORING....
Teams are what "you" make of them. Each man can be his own team. Ideally, that would be best. But sometimes you have to have some help. Have you ever had a "teammate" that was on your side until you unsnapped the dogs and then it was every man for himself?
The Olympics... Good anology. Every country has a team. Every event has a team within their country's team that participates in that event. These teams all train together. But what happens when the event starts? It is every man/woman for themselves. Does anyone remember who Tanya Harding the skater was?

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-09-2016 11:51 PM:

Shane, I looked back through this but I could not find a post by John Dell?

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-09-2016 11:54 PM:

Danny, now don't you go quoting "The Golden Rule".

Posted by Don Barnett Sr on 03-10-2016 12:01 AM:

Team

Ha. I am an Army of one. I guess I will have to sail my ship alone.

Posted by A.Berresford on 03-10-2016 12:16 AM:

How many hokies does it take to make a cartel anyway? Does a cartel make your dogs better? I may start a Ohio cartel if it does. The Buckeye Cartel dose not have a good ring too it though. If you don't own a hokie can you still join the Virginia Cartel and how much are the dues? Is a cartel a team?

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Posted by Danny Barrett on 03-10-2016 12:24 AM:

let

me just say in all seriousness that most good redbones come out of little groups scattered across the country. When I started out there was Timber Chopper. Max Hunter is accredited with TC but he had help. Right around him was Glenn Bosley , Otis Owens, and some more I cant recall in The Richmond Virginia area. I was fortunate enough to get to go up and hunt with those guys a time or two. Then there was Ted Baker in Georgia who I hold as the most unsung hero in the redbone breed. He brought to the breed Rambling Red Ace. But as with TC he had help .Around him were guys like Johnny Cowan, Sammy Maddox, Jimmy Oglesby, Johnny Micheal. Im sure many of you can name like groups in your area. But dominant reproducers like TC and Ace don't come along often and when they do its usually by accident. With modern communication and transportation we should take advantage of it. Also I would like to add that Richard I accept your apology in advance for blasting Gus like you did. After all you should be proud of him ..His grand sire came from you. Me and Rex are collaborators with Jim and Gus. Just look at the pictures from southern redbone days. There we are in the winners circle together and getting along!

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Posted by kilby83 on 03-10-2016 01:12 AM:

Great movements are often started with a theory or even a dream. And that's what we need movement. Praise the lord and pass out the ammunition cause the want to have a red dog on top will be a war but not one we should fight with each other

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Posted by jerhovt on 03-10-2016 01:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Does anyone remember who Tanya Harding the skater was? [/B]

YES
I dont think anyone needs to go that far lol

Im all for competition but fair not the Tonya Harding type

Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 03-10-2016 03:38 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness, David, that sure does sound good in theory but where has it gotten us? I think that we will get farther if we work against each other. I like to call that "competition". It "seems to me" that a little jealousy, bickering, bragging, attacking and or tearing down may be just what we need to inspire us to put forth a little more effort. I know that it inspires me to try a little harder. "Just getting along" only inspires complacency. And I was just joking about the complaining and negativity. I think that we might need a little more. Just look back a couple of years to when there was a lot more "competition" on this board and at the hunts. Everyone was all fired up and we were getting a lot more accomplished. The hunts were exciting and fun to attend. But then UKC stepped in with an iron fist and everyone decided to just "get along". How did that work out? ....BORING....
Teams are what "you" make of them. Each man can be his own team. Ideally, that would be best. But sometimes you have to have some help. Have you ever had a "teammate" that was on your side until you unsnapped the dogs and then it was every man for himself?
The Olympics... Good anology. Every country has a team. Every event has a team within their country's team that participates in that event. These teams all train together. But what happens when the event starts? It is every man/woman for themselves. Does anyone remember who Tanya Harding the skater was?

Ask T Mack about drawing a teamate in competition that is on your side till you unsnap em... At least he didnt waste much time informing me what he was going to to do to me the last time I drew him...lol
He was like one of those people in the snickers commercials that change when you feed em a snickers!
Luckily the dogs sorted it all out so the handlers didnt have to

I think he was holding a grudge because Lisa drew him last year at National Days and gave him a spankin with Outlaw Cherry Bomb....

Posted by Tony Dominguez on 03-10-2016 03:54 AM:

We're all buddy's till the hunt time starts then it's every man for himself lol I expect you to know you're dog & the rules just like I'm expected to, I'll even help the judge call your dog too huh Shane when you call mine 😂

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Posted by blairforce1 on 03-10-2016 05:39 AM:

Richard

Reds (kins) = Team

Offense,
Defense ,
Special teams. = groups (teams) within the team.

If those groups dont work together they won't win the superbowl !!

Just kinda how i see it.

If these groups aren't willing to admit they need a little help from the others to get to the ultimate goal, they will probably never get there. It should be obvious by now that no single group has just what it takes ! Maybe men up, work together and get er done!! Its long overdue!!

Keep um Red,

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Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 03-10-2016 05:43 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Dominguez
We're all buddy's till the hunt time starts then it's every man for himself lol I expect you to know you're dog & the rules just like I'm expected to, I'll even help the judge call your dog too huh Shane when you call mine 😂

Calm down...you need a snickers bar! Lol

Posted by ahallada on 03-10-2016 06:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Outlaw
Calm down...you need a snickers bar! Lol

Got to admit our team is a little dysfunctional. 😎🔫

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Posted by Hoosier Outlaw on 03-10-2016 07:03 AM:

Most outlaws are

Posted by Richard Lambert on 03-10-2016 02:05 PM:

Now Danny, you know what I think about poor Gus. I just think that you should tell everone else. What picture/win are you talking about? I haven't seen a big thread telling us all about some supposed "win" that you and Rex got? I haven't even seen anything saying that you would let someone breed their female to Gus. I thought that you just bred him to your own females. And you mean to say that Gus came from my line of dogs? It is no wonder that he is such a nice dog. Just what does his pedigree look like? Isn't it a little funny that no one has seen it? I think that I will start taking "credit" for his breeding. Gus The Wonder Dog is L's Timber Redbones bred. Maybe I will start bragging about him.
And you mean that Redbone Teams are not something new?

David K, do you mean that I have started a "movement". I feel like Arlo Guthrie. Once more now in three part harmony, "the L's Timber Redbone Massacre". I just hope that I don't end up sitting on the "Group W" bench with Shane and the rest of the outlaws.

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