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Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-29-2015 05:29 PM:

i got a buddy that makes his own feed some put's it in a big cast iron pot outside not sure what all he puts in it but after cooking it lets it thicken up cut in strips and freeze it till he feds it says dogs do really good on it

Posted by croatankid on 11-29-2015 07:35 PM:

When I fish I save all the trash fish for the dogs. I trim the sharp things off, toss them on the grill a ffew minutes and freeze them. Then I give one to each of the dogs from time to time. I also give mine select table scraps, not the real fatty stuff though.

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Posted by Kris Cisna on 11-30-2015 03:21 PM:

To learn about feeding, what works and what does not, feeding schedules and how the feed works...

Search pitbull and sled dog forums.

Those 2 type of dog folk have a VERY good understanding of what it takes.

Both generally use different methods as both dogs do different styles of work.

You learn from both and take what applies.

Some of the stuff mentioned here is probably doing more harm than good... you have to be OK with learning and understanding there are folks who know more than you.

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Posted by croatankid on 11-30-2015 10:05 PM:

kris, are you saying: some of the stuff mentioned here, meaning on this UKC topic, or on the pitbull, sled dog sites?

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Posted by hillbilly56 on 11-30-2015 10:36 PM:

talk to my buddy this moronin he said he cooks beef bones and this time of yr even deer scraps cooks them til the meat falls off them then gets the bones out and mix cornmeal and cooks it till it thickens lets it cool and cuts it in strips put in the freezer thaws it in time for feedin time

Posted by dchartt on 12-01-2015 12:13 AM:

All of the probably 6 sled dog forums i looked up today had hardly any good info on feeding other then they feed dogfood

And also some of them their dogs make a ten mile trip every week or two, mines makin a ten mile trip almost every night

Maybe i just havent found a good site i dunno

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Posted by msinc on 12-01-2015 02:09 AM:

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Originally posted by dchartt
All of the probably 6 sled dog forums i looked up today had hardly any good info on feeding other then they feed dogfood

And also some of them their dogs make a ten mile trip every week or two, mines makin a ten mile trip almost every night

Maybe i just havent found a good site i dunno

I was kinda wondering myself...just exactly what "work" a pitbull does these days????? Being a dope dealers lawn ornament and occasionally attacking someone...that they need special feed for???? I don't really see anything harmful posted so far either.
I don't think I would feed my dog fish bones intentionally, but I have seen them eat live bluegill whole before I could stop them and it didn't seem to bother either dog.

Posted by dchartt on 12-01-2015 02:38 AM:

Hahaha well pitbulls are used for weight pulling other then that I dont know

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Posted by dchartt on 12-01-2015 02:48 AM:

I think they are used in that agility stuff too?? I dont know

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Posted by Fisher13 on 12-01-2015 11:26 AM:

taste of the wild is the best I have ever fed, followed by pro plan sport.
You said you had him on a self feeder. Personally I'm not a fan, you cannot control how much they eat, can't mix it with water, can't add supplements... If he quit eating 2 days ago...how would you know?

If he isn't used to a quality feed, he will poop everywhere if you just give it to him in a self feeder.

Also when they eat is important, I have found by splitting the feeding times in 2 between breakfast and post hunting, I can feed more without the dogs getting the runs. With most 3 cups is the most they can handle at one time, with out getting the runs.

You could also try a treatment of doxycycline, Lymes will destroy a dogs level of endurance.
Worms will reduce there energy as well

Your dog goes back to sunrise aient?

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Posted by Kris Cisna on 12-01-2015 03:33 PM:

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Originally posted by croatankid
kris, are you saying: some of the stuff mentioned here, meaning on this UKC topic, or on the pitbull, sled dog sites?

No not this site. Search different sites, ask questions and read a ton!

Posted by croatankid on 12-01-2015 10:41 PM:

I used to be really interested in sled dogging. I went to Alaska and while I was there spoke to some of the guys that run the idetirod. Many have their own secret recipe. Many buy 50 lb blocks of frozen fish. they cut it up and feed it to the dogs still frozen. fisherman up there catch a trash fish that is only good for dog food and such.

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Posted by Kris Cisna on 12-02-2015 12:24 AM:

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Originally posted by croatankid
I used to be really interested in sled dogging. I went to Alaska and while I was there spoke to some of the guys that run the idetirod. Many have their own secret recipe. Many buy 50 lb blocks of frozen fish. they cut it up and feed it to the dogs still frozen. fisherman up there catch a trash fish that is only good for dog food and such.

But did you ask why they fed it?

All it takes is to learn what your dog needs and give it to the dog. You want extra from the dog, give the dog extra.

Posted by Dustin gay on 12-02-2015 03:55 PM:

I've fed victor and diamond both did good but I feed river run 27 in the summer and 24 in the winter

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Posted by SFWALKER on 12-02-2015 04:23 PM:

I feed purina proplan 30/20. I kill a lot of deer, and I save all of the scraps when I am processing them. I usually have enough to feed them deer a couple of times a week until spring. They get a lot of fish scraps until the next deer season. If I don't hunt mine down, they can get a little fat, but they never run out of energy.

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Posted by Kris Cisna on 12-02-2015 07:51 PM:

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Originally posted by SFWALKER
I feed purina proplan 30/20. I kill a lot of deer, and I save all of the scraps when I am processing them. I usually have enough to feed them deer a couple of times a week until spring. They get a lot of fish scraps until the next deer season. If I don't hunt mine down, they can get a little fat, but they never run out of energy.

Out of curiosity... what do the dogs get, specifically, from the scraps or deer?

Posted by SFWALKER on 12-02-2015 09:03 PM:

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Originally posted by Kris Cisna
Out of curiosity... what do the dogs get, specifically, from the scraps or deer?

Flank, brisket, rib meat, etc. anything red that I don't do anything with. I tend to cut most fat and connective tissue off of even what they get. I figure they get enough fat from the proplan.

Posted by dchartt on 12-02-2015 09:31 PM:

I do the same, rib and kneck meat etc.., i leave all the fat on mine though run it thru the grinder and boil it then feed it that way

The deer looks like a coyote got to it when im done, youd be surprised how much you can get by cleanin one up real good

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Posted by SFWALKER on 12-02-2015 09:49 PM:

I feed mine raw. Put it in vacuum sealed bags. Thaw it out and throw it in their bowl.

Posted by croatankid on 12-02-2015 11:34 PM:

I too use the deer carcass after people get what they want from it. most folks leave a lot of meat on dem bones. I also use the heart. I give it to the dogs raw or I might cook it with rice and vegetables.

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Posted by Barnes.M on 12-02-2015 11:39 PM:

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Anybody ever try feeding in the middle of a long hunt. When I had bird dogs, I would give them a can of Alpo at lunch time. It sure gave them a boost for the afternoon hunt.

When I hunted all day with my german shorthair I would give him some deer meat and always took lots of water that seemed to give him a boost. I feed my bluetick purina dog chow, sometimes mixed with scrape meat and fat.Now that I'm closing in on 60! I always wear out way before he does so it seems to work!

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Posted by mnb&t on 12-03-2015 06:48 AM:

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Originally posted by SFWALKER
I feed purina proplan 30/20. I kill a lot of deer, and I save all of the scraps when I am processing them. I usually have enough to feed them deer a couple of times a week until spring. They get a lot of fish scraps until the next deer season. If I don't hunt mine down, they can get a little fat, but they never run out of energy.

your dogs are living the high life! i have similar program for feeding.

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Posted by moleman on 12-03-2015 08:48 AM:

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Originally posted by dchartt
I think they are used in that agility stuff too?? I dont know

I will say this,nothing has changed in the pit bull world anything they were ever used for they still are,about all the hog hunters use them for catch dogs and i saw some coyote hunters using them as kill dogs after they run down a coyote or if they bayed up.

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Posted by moleman on 12-03-2015 08:57 AM:

Dog Sleders

I think the main thing they mix with their feed is fish and seal fat,i was watching the iditarod race and that was the main mix most was using with their feed from what i seen and they said on there.

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