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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-26-2015 12:52 AM:

All right....Since Allen isn't going to call me this year, who did I draw??? I need to know who to not piss off in the next week. If we had a list we could handicap the dogs and come up with some odds. Or we could have a Calcutta.


Posted by Mark V. on 08-26-2015 01:34 AM:

I will except certifide check or pay pall and all bets will be kept private. LOL


Posted by beancreek95 on 08-26-2015 03:16 AM:

Wait list

Good Will the dogs on the wait list most likely hunt?????

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Posted by Lovis Burns on 08-26-2015 03:36 AM:

Re: Re: Possible Con

quote:
Originally posted by Todd K / UKC
Good point ! I have no intention of posting who the guide is. But that will be easy for those casts to figure out if they start calling each other. But in Grands, again, I don't think it matters that much. So I agree with you, that could be an issue in Nites and Regs.


Here's an idea. Don't post the actual scorecard. Post the cast as if it were the world hunt. In that format. And now one will be the wiser to who the judge or guide is.

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Posted by dperry on 08-26-2015 04:51 AM:

The system has worked fine for years. No need in changing this.


Posted by Allen / UKC on 08-26-2015 01:09 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
All right....Since Allen isn't going to call me this year, who did I draw??? I need to know who to not piss off in the next week. If we had a list we could handicap the dogs and come up with some odds. Or we could have a Calcutta.


Thanks for not calling me every day this year trying to get me to tell you who you drew. Yes, that would be much closer to the truth.

Don't you know that it's a crime to fib on public forum?


Posted by MIKE CARDER on 08-26-2015 01:17 PM:

Post them

When you all going to post then?

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-26-2015 02:24 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Allen / UKC
Don't you know that it's a crime to fib on public forum?

I guess that I will have to go into hiding. I hope that the interweb police don't know where I live. I can see one con. Allen will have to work to post the casts.


Posted by warn on 08-26-2015 02:36 PM:

Allen won't have to work but poor ole corey will!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-26-2015 03:06 PM:

Is Corey now the red-headed step child?

Maybe if you posted the casts, everyone would try to get their entry in earlier so they would not be on the wait list.


Posted by MIKE CARDER on 08-26-2015 07:06 PM:

Cast breakdown???

What about these breakdowns?

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Posted by Todd K / UKC on 08-26-2015 07:20 PM:

OK...we're going to give it a try. Nothing in the AO rules says that we can't. We have discussed it at length and the positives out-weigh the couple negatives that we can come up with. BUT, we are going to post the Grand Nite draw only. The reason for that is because Grands is a three round elimination (more or less) format. With Registered and Nites being a one high score placement, we would hate to jeopardize the integrity of your hunt in those divisions.

I think this will create some excitement and we are happy to feature and promote our UKC Grand Nite Champions.

Keep in mind there WILL be changes regarding cast members, guides, judges, and satellites. You MUST report to opening ceremony for your assignment. Good luck!

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Posted by Todd K / UKC on 08-26-2015 07:22 PM:

http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/News...8262015010922PM

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Posted by Lovis Burns on 08-26-2015 07:24 PM:

I like it. Looks really good.

Don't forget to update it with the cast winners.

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Posted by DMG_3 on 08-26-2015 08:22 PM:

x2!!

I like it. Looks really good.

Don't forget to update it with the cast winners.


Posted by Nathan Sawyer on 08-26-2015 08:48 PM:

It would be nice to see it. The thing I kinda don't like would be that it's all subject to change. Example: say someone is a no show because they drew Mr. Clean (just an example) they don't think they can win in my opinion he beat the competition don't start changing up the cast.

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Posted by Night Shift on 08-27-2015 03:32 AM:

I can't imagine anyone entering their dog in a hunt and not believing it's the best one. I wouldn't waste my time if I didn't believe I couldn't beat any dog I drew. My guess if it's no shows dogs come in heat or injuries. Not because they're scared.


Posted by Josh Michaelis on 08-27-2015 05:11 AM:

If I haul a dog more than 10 miles to a hunt its because I think it is the best dog on the planet

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-27-2015 03:01 PM:

I enter my dogs in a lot of hunts knowing that they are not the "best dog" there. Most of the time, I just go for the enjoyment of hunting with/against those "best dogs". I have hunted at Autumn Oaks 15 times and only won once.


Posted by Night Shift on 08-28-2015 01:40 AM:

You only won your cast once or Autumn Oaks


Posted by walkerman75 on 08-28-2015 02:10 AM:

i love the idea

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Posted by TBO kennels on 08-28-2015 02:27 AM:

I think it's hogwash. The scammers will scam easier now. There will be casts bought before they get to the woods. This is not a elimination hunt. More than half of the cast winners won't advance. Guides are still everything. There will be more shady business than usual. I'm the only one in my cast even from IN and I know I'm not guiding so we will have a non hunting guide or one of the other 3 are guiding out of there own state. I'm not scared of any dog and its way funner to anticipate at draw out. I hate this but I'm the only one I guess. I'll have fun once we cut loose though. I always do.

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Posted by Night Shift on 08-28-2015 03:01 AM:

Heck only thing I hate is I can't guide out of Marion. Other then that Daniels not there with Hank so my Grand 16 cast should be a lot easier this year lol


Posted by MIKE CARDER on 08-28-2015 03:04 AM:

Cast win

quote:
Originally posted by Night Shift
You only won your cast once or Autumn Oaks



I have NEVER won a cast at AO!!!

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Posted by Richard Lambert on 08-28-2015 03:41 PM:

I only got my picture taken once at AO. Just winning your cast at AO doesn't mean much.


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