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Posted by chuck west on 04-09-2015 07:07 PM:

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Originally posted by Fisher13
When did comp hunts really catch on? When did walkers begin to dominate the hunts?

I hope this helps you some, The first UKC hunts that I attended was in the very early 60's ,like 61 or 62 . Prior to the UKC holding competition it was all ACHA best that I can recall.

http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/WebP...nhounds/History

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Posted by AndyMiller on 04-09-2015 08:17 PM:

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Posted by Mike Van Dusen on 04-09-2015 08:27 PM:

Re: Re: Dominate,

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Originally posted by Jason Baldwin
But why does Lipper got over 5,000 pups ?

Mac McCallister. promotion, he was in the rite hands, produced good lookin loud hounds,,,I am not knocking Lipper,he put drive and a lot of go in his pups, but he was a product of House breeding......Lipper's daughters were outstanding reproducers, some of Sackett Jr. 's best crosses came from Lipper daughters.
Joe House said if Lawyer would of lived a longer life, we would all be talkin bout Lawyer, he said Lawyer was a better reproducer, Joe should of known.......

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Posted by tobyj on 04-09-2015 08:32 PM:

been many greats but for sure joe house made a big impact with numerous studs.clint produced many that split off to start someone elses famous breedcing programs...'lipper no doubt incrediuble maybe bred too much to so so females to get that negative opinion of him these are the walkers i have had n dont want nuthin else got a heavy clint female years ago on accident so to speak boy did i get lucky CRAZY LOUD UNEXPLAINABLE MOUTH open quick /locate like no other/stay put tree dog.took her off at 10 next mornin once.owner of a campground let us hunt there one night in michigan before ukc centennial hunt parents were actually callin their kids in because there was SOMETHIN in those woods!!the kind of dogs that just love what they do dont forget the females that mr house selected either

Posted by buck brush on 04-09-2015 09:29 PM:

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Originally posted by Fisher13
When did comp hunts really catch on? When did walkers begin to dominate the hunts?

I told you a long time ago that you needed to watch the movie Where The Red Fern Grows that was back in the horse a buggy days and they had Comp. hunts then and until Ann and Dan come along the Walkers was winning every year.

So watch the movie , you might get some training tips also.

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Posted by nitehunter2004 on 04-09-2015 09:55 PM:

Re: Re: Re: Dominate,

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Originally posted by Mike Van Dusen
Mac McCallister. promotion, he was in the rite hands, produced good lookin loud hounds,,,I am not knocking Lipper,he put drive and a lot of go in his pups, but he was a product of House breeding......Lipper's daughters were outstanding reproducers, some of Sackett Jr. 's best crosses came from Lipper daughters.
Joe House said if Lawyer would of lived a longer life, we would all be talkin bout Lawyer, he said Lawyer was a better reproducer, Joe should of known.......

I spent a few days picking Joe House's brain on dogs, he said the same thing, If Lawyer would had lived the blood we talk about today would be a lot different. But he didn't.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 04-09-2015 11:12 PM:

You cant just keep going back in time more and more. Might as well pick Tn lead if you do that. Did lipper have 5000 pups? Where's he at on ukc reproducer list? I dont get the book.

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Posted by john Duemmer on 04-09-2015 11:22 PM:

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
You cant just keep going back in time more and more. Might as well pick Tn lead if you do that. Did lipper have 5000 pups? Where's he at on ukc reproducer list? I dont get the book.

I checked the book, Lipper isnt on the list.

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Posted by john Duemmer on 04-09-2015 11:27 PM:

Top 10 from the reproducers list.
1Rat
2 Nailor
3Harry
4 Trackman
5 Sackett jr.
6 sunrise
7 Jake
8 Hayes
9 Fred
10 Stylish coma

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Posted by GA DAWG on 04-10-2015 12:02 AM:

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
I checked the book, Lipper isnt on the list.

LOL... I have nothing against him but he aint the one your asking for..

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Posted by yadkintar on 04-10-2015 01:38 AM:

Just my opinion but if sacket jr would have lived longer that list would have looked a lot different the common denominator several of those dogs had was Yadkin river Jeff even lipper had some Yadkin river through shives gold hill Lou I believe .

Posted by Jason Baldwin on 04-10-2015 02:48 AM:

Competition hunts are fun and a good thing but not the final say on the total dog. Take Lipper out of the gene pool and you got a HEAVY dose of yard dog chopping, close hunting , lazy , non tracking bucket dogs. LOL !!! You might win a hunt or two but is that what you want ?

Posted by GA DAWG on 04-10-2015 03:48 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Baldwin
Competition hunts are fun and a good thing but not the final say on the total dog. Take Lipper out of the gene pool and you got a HEAVY dose of yard dog chopping, close hunting , lazy , non tracking bucket dogs. LOL !!! You might win a hunt or two but is that what you want ?

yeah but the question was about competition.

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Posted by Jason Baldwin on 04-10-2015 07:08 AM:

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
yeah but the question was about competition.

True. And no doubt lots and lots of other stud dogs through great pups that we're balanced but I just mean the huge difference between your average Lipper dog and your average dog from other popular bloodlines.

Posted by yadkintar on 04-10-2015 12:57 PM:

And 85 percent of the people on this board wasent tough enough to hunt a direct son or daughter out of lipper there's some being put on the ground right now for 3000 to 5000 dollars a piece we will see how many you just don't ever hear about again that's been going on for years to !!!

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