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Posted by chris mccowan on 01-26-2015 09:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by john Duemmer
Ima big fan of the 1911s in 45acp. they shoot every time and will sure take a bad guy off his feet. Not a fan of nines, ask an emergence room doctor in Detroit or Chicago how many thugs WALK in sportin a couple 9mm. holes, if ya gotta shoot yoiu dont want em walkin away.

I never saw a inner city boy able to shoot anyway. Lol. Not if you hit ....its where. Lol The m45A1 is what I ultimately want..just a lil outa budget at this time.

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Posted by OLIE SMITH on 01-27-2015 03:41 AM:

Little Baretta 22 with LR hollow points as good as any

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Posted by wildbill on 01-27-2015 05:16 AM:

ruger mark II cci hollow points red/green dot scope lazer grip during hunting season with one or more of the other as backup

cobra 380 fullmetal jacket wadcuter with extra clip
tarus 9mm revolver full metal jacket hollowpoint
tarus 357 revolver with 38+p/357 full metal jacket hollow points
s&w 38 revolver 38 +p full metal jacket hollow point

the revolvers are 2" barrells 5 shot dont need but 1 or 2 good hits and they are going be hurting and deaf at the same time.

plus a pocket full of aluminum barrelled inkpens if it comes down to hand to hand plus 1-3 cliped pocket knives in different pockets.

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Posted by ahallada on 01-27-2015 05:19 AM:

I saw a Ruger .380 with a Lasermax Laser installed at Shot Show for $340. I think it was Arkansas Guns that had it advertised. Neat little gun for the price because thos Lasermax Lasers are not cheap. I think I paid almost $200 for mine.

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Posted by JmillerFL on 01-27-2015 12:45 PM:

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Originally posted by JiM
I prefer others not know that I carry or what I carry.

funny how you get in the $kc board and tell a different story. Also they aren't plastic they are carbon fiber which is stronger then most steel. Both can break or blow up. Furthermore if your so called "plastic" guns are junk like you say then why do 60% of our nations police departments carry glocks. To each his own but you are wrong this time Mr. Jim!

Posted by mhardy on 01-27-2015 02:52 PM:

quick question?????if a person pulls a pistol on you are you gonna ask him what calliber it is and what its made out of ,before you start running???i`m just saying,,,,,,,,,

Posted by RLenhart on 01-27-2015 03:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by mhardy
quick question?????if a person pulls a pistol on you are you gonna ask him what calliber it is and what its made out of ,before you start running???i`m just saying,,,,,,,,,

Who knows? might just take the fight right out of him if you start asking stupid questions about his gun instead of running.
"say buddy is that the new glock?, is it really as light as they say it is?, hows the balance? lol

Posted by chip johnson on 01-27-2015 03:36 PM:

must be alot of coon hunters afraid of what is in the dark.lol

Posted by JmillerFL on 01-27-2015 04:09 PM:

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Originally posted by chip johnson
must be alot of coon hunters afraid of what is in the dark.lol

I carry 24-7. Daylight or dark. When you have people cooking meth and growing pot it's better to be safe then sorry

Posted by msinc on 01-27-2015 04:42 PM:

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Originally posted by JmillerFL
funny how you get in the $kc board and tell a different story. Also they aren't plastic they are carbon fiber which is stronger then most steel. Both can break or blow up. Furthermore if your so called "plastic" guns are junk like you say then why do 60% of our nations police departments carry glocks. To each his own but you are wrong this time Mr. Jim!

There are only two individuals in the entire history of the world that became billionaires {yes, with a B} designing and manufacturing firearms. Those two are Sam Colt and Gaston Glock. I think if you design and sell that many of anything the acceptance level far exceeds being considered "Junk." In the world of body guards and anti terror the Glock 19 will be the mark of a professional for a long time to come.
As to carrying...Ted Nugent said it best..."I don't need no law or amendment to tell me I have the right to defend myself!!!"

Posted by JiM on 01-27-2015 05:02 PM:

Junk? Who said junk? I sure never. Go over there and look. What I said was plastic is for breast implants, not guns. Same goes for polymer.

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Posted by JmillerFL on 01-27-2015 05:11 PM:

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Originally posted by JiM
Junk? Who said junk? I sure never. Go over there and look. What I said was plastic is for breast implants, not guns. Same goes for polymer.

I did look. The way you wrote it inferred that you thought they were. You did sing a different tune on the other board. About the only gun you will find today that is all steel is a revolver or a 1911. The smith you have is a great gun I have one in 10mm and 40cal. But never carry them cause they're hard to hide.

Posted by croatankid on 01-27-2015 05:28 PM:

after I carried for a while I became more sensitive to the risk of living around people. Now I won't go out without my gun and on those times I did I was very aware that I was defenseless. Even when I go hunting and have a long gun I carry a pistol and am aware of my surroundings. Have you considered how easy it would be to rob and/or molest someone as they prepare to enter their car. Someone can hide by your truck and wait for you. They know you have a gun of some kind that's worth something, you have money, credit cards, a vehicle and no one is around. A women would be fool to not think about these things and a man too.

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Posted by chris mccowan on 01-27-2015 05:42 PM:

Fellas

I know why people carry..I would just like to know what they prefer to carry. I am by no means scared of the dark, but you are a fool to not think about what could come out of the dark.Watch the evening news and tell me how many good things they talk about.I would rather be caught with it than without.

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Posted by bandithunter on 01-28-2015 11:43 AM:

Chris, with bullet improvement, the gap between 9mm and 45 is very small. Less recoil, twice as many rounds, easier to conceal, etc. Type in Glock torture test and see for yourself. Try that with a 1911 and it will fail. Then research ballistics in gelatin, phone books, etc. and make up your own mind.

Posted by headache73 on 01-28-2015 12:22 PM:

I carry a Kahr cw45. My wife liked it so much she got one too. She carries a Taurus TCP 380 in her car, and alternates the Kahr with a Taurus Millennium Pro in 9mm

Posted by msinc on 01-28-2015 12:36 PM:

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Originally posted by bandithunter
Chris, with bullet improvement, the gap between 9mm and 45 is very small. Less recoil, twice as many rounds, easier to conceal, etc. Type in Glock torture test and see for yourself. Try that with a 1911 and it will fail. Then research ballistics in gelatin, phone books, etc. and make up your own mind.

We had a saying back in 1983 when the Army went to the Beretta M9..."a 9mm might expand, but a 45 will not shrink"

Posted by chris mccowan on 01-28-2015 12:40 PM:

Alot

Of people keep insinuating that we are scared. .Google -Blissfield sisters. That was my uncles s tepdaughters and wife..Just days before we were having a cookout with woman children and elderly at my uncle's house.Him and I were talking about this and sparked alot of thought..I personally had been in disagreement with the fella that did this on numerous occasions. .What happens if he shows up at that cookout?

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Posted by headache73 on 01-28-2015 01:30 PM:

There's a big difference between being scared and being cautious, and deciding to protect yourself. I'd rather get out of a bad situation than have to defend myself, but knowing I'm prepared for it makes me feel better. 2 weeks after my wife and I got our permits, she stopped an armed robbery at a nurse uniform shop. She was 4 hours late getting home from work, and couldn't call because she was being questioned by police. Scared me to death, but I was proud of her

Posted by JmillerFL on 01-28-2015 04:06 PM:

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Originally posted by msinc
We had a saying back in 1983 when the Army went to the Beretta M9..."a 9mm might expand, but a 45 will not shrink"

this topic has been argued time and time again. No pistol and I mean no pistol will drop a person unless you hit the central nervous system. A round placed anywhere else the bad guy is gonna have to bleed out which could take a while. Most experts will agree that 9mm is the minimum calber to carry for self defense. Remember sot placement is of the utmost importance. I have a friend who house was getting broke into. He shot the guy 4 times with a 9mm the guyed walked out of the hospital 3 days latter.

Posted by msinc on 01-28-2015 04:23 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JmillerFL
this topic has been argued time and time again. No pistol and I mean no pistol will drop a person unless you hit the central nervous system. A round placed anywhere else the bad guy is gonna have to bleed out which could take a while. Most experts will agree that 9mm is the minimum calber to carry for self defense. Remember sot placement is of the utmost importance. I have a friend who house was getting broke into. He shot the guy 4 times with a 9mm the guyed walked out of the hospital 3 days latter.

Funny thing is that people tend to "bleed out" quicker when hit by a 44 Magnum than they do when hit by a 22.....all that said, I would for certain rather carry a 22 than nothing. I, like most sane people {well, semi sane, just sayin} don't want to get hit by either.
Years ago I had a dope dealer distant cousin that got in a big dispute with another drug person. I big fight ensued in the other guys living room in which he was getting the better of the guy. The mans wife produced a 357 magnum and the first one from the side under his arm pit. The bullet traveled all the way across his chest and popped out his other arm pit to fall on the floor beside him. Now wait a minute...that is a double lung and heart hit!!! He walked out to his car, which was like 10 ft. out the door, got his pistol and started back into the house. He collapsed and died on the front steps. When he was autopsied they found no drugs in his system. Point being that if he had a gun on his person he could have possibly killed both of them even after getting hit fatally himself.
In the 80's and 90's all the law enforcement folks had 9mm's, all the people that got shot by the police died...they switched to the 40S&W and ever since everyone that the police shot has survived...that is a fact.

Posted by JmillerFL on 01-28-2015 05:02 PM:

The mans wife produced a 357 magnum and the first one from the side under his arm pit. The bullet traveled all the way across his chest and popped out his other arm pit to fall on the floor beside him. Now wait a minute...that is a double lung and heart hit!!! He walked out to his car, which was like 10 ft. out the door, got his pistol and started back into the house. He collapsed and died on the front steps. When he was autopsied they found no drugs in his system. Point being that if he had a gun on his person he could have possibly killed both of them even after getting hit fatally himself.
You just total backed up my point. Shot placement is key.

Posted by msinc on 01-28-2015 05:07 PM:

Shot placement is always key...that is why a bullet proof vest probably wont save a man. If I am in a fire fight that vest better be wrapped around his head.

Posted by Tbaker on 01-28-2015 07:06 PM:

Concealed

SW Bodyguard 380 with laser. hits right where the red dot is placed.

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Posted by deepsouthkennels86 on 01-28-2015 07:16 PM:

Remington 1911 loaded with custom hollow points stopping power out the a**

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