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Jake

She's a good acting pup, comeing along nicely.

JIM/B-3/john henry

I was told by a friend of mine that has hunted with jim, says he is a big dog he guessed his weight at approx 80lb in hunting shape. Is this close ???


What was b-3 weight


What was John Henry's weight

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Larry D Walker

Indiana

812-327-8224

Jim is a big dog. B III was a big dog. Larry, they are way too big for you.

Larry

I would estimate Jon's weight was around 65 lbs.. Brian Ratliff would know better than me.. But what I do know is jon was the best I ever been in the woods with, a fast dog on all ends, very talented dog.

larry

jim weighs 76 pounds . I don't know how much b3 did but I was told b3 was around 65 pounds . I got a full brother to jim off second cross he is 60 to 65 pounds. cat and penny a full litter mate to jim is around 55 pounds . the males seem to be a little bigger! the thing all have in common is drive ! they all hunt hard and at a faster pace then most just hunting or on a track quick. don't let jims size make you think slow because he is not!! but then again i,m partial to these dogs!! In my opinion these hounds need to be bred to more open trailing lines to bring out more strike power.

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TODD SMITH
607-222-9444
Former HOME OF
GRNITECH, GRCH, TERRY,S OK RED TWISTIN SHERMAN
GRNITECH, CH , SMITH,S BANJO CAT
Home of grand night moonlight may

Body Style

I had BIII here at my house and own Mandy II off Banjo III. I would say she is long and leggy. I did not consider III to be a heavy dog, more of a long and leggy hound. I would say 65 pounds 70 tops. One thing I can tell you is they will get through the timber fast and if you were in a shoot out, these are the type of dogs that get hooked fast. They don't need anyone to hold there hand and you can expect them to get by themselves deep with the meat. I have got plenty of first strikes with my gyp but not because she is a stupid blabbermouth. And I have had a bunch of first trees. Last week in SC we pleasured hunted on Wed, night.After traveling 9 hours we cut her out and she was treed with the meat in 10 minutes at 600 yards. Wish we would have seen a coon in the two hunts I attended. And please don't tell me I need a better dog. The blue dog I hunted with on Sat. was in the final 4 last year. Lucas

B3 if I remember was 78 pounds and well over 80 if Ramon put a little weight on him. He kept him slimmed down for the most part. I have seen him around 90 when he was cooking up salmon skins from the sushi place for restaurant down the road lol.

Re: larry

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Originally posted by 54tsmith
.... In my opinion these hounds need to be bred to more open trailing lines to bring out more strike power...

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Re: Re: larry

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Maybe a T-Top female?

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Re: Re: larry

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Maybe a T-Top female?

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Larry D Walker

Indiana

812-327-8224

Re: Re: larry

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Maybe a T-Top female?

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TODD SMITH
607-222-9444
Former HOME OF
GRNITECH, GRCH, TERRY,S OK RED TWISTIN SHERMAN
GRNITECH, CH , SMITH,S BANJO CAT
Home of grand night moonlight may

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Larry D Walker
I have got the cure for open trailing,

The size is what I will need to work on !!!!!!!!!

I think I might even have that, will be interesting regardless. [/QUOTE

larry , sounds nice good luck and please count me in !!!

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TODD SMITH
607-222-9444
Former HOME OF
GRNITECH, GRCH, TERRY,S OK RED TWISTIN SHERMAN
GRNITECH, CH , SMITH,S BANJO CAT
Home of grand night moonlight may

Wendy started dripping Friday. She and Jim have a date set up.

richard

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Wendy started dripping Friday. She and Jim have a date set up.

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TODD SMITH
607-222-9444
Former HOME OF
GRNITECH, GRCH, TERRY,S OK RED TWISTIN SHERMAN
GRNITECH, CH , SMITH,S BANJO CAT
Home of grand night moonlight may

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Originally posted by Richard Lambert
..that is quite a bit of Fireball and if you go on back a few generations, that is a TREMENDOUS amount of Gr Nt Ch Hayes Rambling Red Ace.

..............................................Nt Ch Lil Red Fireball III
...................................Nt Ch Meltons Red Banjo
................................................Camp Creek Sue
.......................Gr Nt Ch Banjo III
..............................................Meltons Tn Red Man
....................................Meltons Redman's Meg
...............................................Meltons Tree Talking Queen
............Gr Nt Ch Big Red Jim
.............................................Gr Nt Rusty Red
.....................................Gr Nt Flatwood's Red Hawk
...............................................Gr Ch Gorhams Long Tall Sally
........................Nt Ch High Test Heidi
................................................Nt Ch Pine Meadow Amos
......................................Nt Ch Butternut Creek Red Shady
..................................................Nt Ch Noss's Showtime Molly
Pups
...................................................Gr Nt Ch T-Top Rat
.......................................Gr Nt Ch T-Top Rabble Rouser
..................................................GrNtCh Raven(BomberXBell)
.........................Gr Nt Ch T-Top Haze
.....................................................Gr Nt Ch Bomber
........................................Nt Ch Bombers Red Wire
......................................................Gr Nt Ch Bell
...............Nt Ch L's Dark Timber Wendy
.......................................................Gr Nt Ch T-Top Rat
.........................................Gr Nt Ch Rabble Rouser
........................................................Gr Nt Ch Raven
...........................Gr Nt Ch Willow
.........................................................Gr Nt Ch Little Zack
..........................................Gr Nt Ch Dark Tmber Long Tall Sally
..........................................................L's Timber Sweetie

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Jim bred Wendy last night for the first time. I should have pups the last week of March.

My little Jimmys treeing their first coon with their mom at -55 days old.

I own a male that is mate to Jim. He is off the last cross. Here is a little bit more info on Jims ped.

++++++++++++++Nitech.Little red Fireball III
(151 pups 3GS 1GN 3SC 1NC)

++++++Nitech.Meltons red Banjo
(123pups 5GS 10SC 3GN 2NC 1FC 1WC)

++++++++++++++Camp creek Sue
(17pups 1NC)

++Ch.Grnitech.Vaughns Banjo III
(66pups 2GS 4SC 3GN 6NC 1GF)

++++++++++++++Meltons Tenn. Red Man
(17pups 2SC 2NC)

++++++Meltons Red Man Meg
(27pups 1GS 4SC 2GN 1NC)

++++++++++++++Meltons Tree Talking Queen
(39pups 1SC 1NC)

JIM

++++++++++++++Grnitech.Hoffmeister's Rusty Red
(511pups 1GS 14SC 6GN 19NC)

++++++Grnitech.Bunch's Flat Woods Red Hawk
(29pups 2SC 3NC 1GF)

++++++++++++++GRCH.Gorham's twin oak Sally
(28pups 1GN 2NC)

++Nitech.Muddy Creek Hightest Heidi
(25pups 2GS 5SC 3GN 4NC 1GF 1HTX)

++++++++++++++Nitech.Rutter's pine meadow Amos
(164pups 1GS 6SC 5NC)

++++++Nitech. Butternut creek shady lady
(25pups 1GS 2SC 1GN 5NC 1GF)

++++++++++++++Nitech.CH.Noss show time molly
(33pups 1GS 2SC 4NC)

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Home of Grnitech.Neuse River Heat
NTCH.HEATS Neuse River Polly
Home of the Tar River Redbones:
Nite Ch, GrCH 2008 AKC World Champion Redbone Tar Rivers Rambling Red Rudy
Nite Ch Tar Rivers Rudy's Trudy "T"(2011 Grand American Final 4)


In Memory of
Ntch.Tar Rivers Red Alice
Gr Ch Hales Red Ruby
Gr Ch Tar Rivers Big Slick
Tar River Buddy

congrats!!

to rex and jim on getting it done in single diget temps at southern days!! coon dog I,d say!!!

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TODD SMITH
607-222-9444
Former HOME OF
GRNITECH, GRCH, TERRY,S OK RED TWISTIN SHERMAN
GRNITECH, CH , SMITH,S BANJO CAT
Home of grand night moonlight may

Congrats

To a top team.

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Ron Wolter
Redcoat

Rex, you had better get started on that puppy pen....

Looks

Looks like she is about 40 days… So about April 1st then… Good luck with them… Lucas.

I already have a name for one....L's Great Ball of Fire.

Question??????

Did the President of team Fireball, Preston Owens send you your official membership hat ???Sounds like by the name it should be a good one...

Preston said that he was going to resign from Team Fireball and join the Va Cartel if Rex would let him have one of these pups.