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quote:Apparently you and many others didn't read the whole question. It's at the top read it again and tell me why people would think some one would use this to drive across a field. This question was worded this way so as hunters, you know the people most likely to attend this meeting, would understand it from a hunting viewpoint. If it were to become a law it would be written as "property" and "owner".
Originally posted by Chad L
Some of the comments made about this proposal from others came from lack of clarification. I know the proposal referenced other states with similar laws but lacked definition. Some where concerned that allowing this to pass would constitute people driving across fields and so forth. I believe this proposal would have the merit to pass if it was presented as a law with clear definitions on "what is" and "what isn't" allowed to clarify the gray areas as to how it was presented at the hearing.
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Originally posted by JJWI
What I can't believe is how all the deer hunters want more predator control to protect their deer numbers. They want more Bear tags, Wolf tags and coyotes shot. BUT they don't want anyone running a hound near their land.
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Originally posted by jessejmc1979
Deer hunting as is has become and where it is headed is going to be the end of all hunting by division. Instead of the hunters vs the anti's it's the "deer hunters" vs the "anything except deer hunters." It's truly sad what it's become.
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Never ask a man what kind of dog he has. If he has a hound he'll tell you, if he does not, you don't want to shame him by asking.
could someone give a quick rundown on iowa's retrieve law
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Never ask a man what kind of dog he has. If he has a hound he'll tell you, if he does not, you don't want to shame him by asking.
You guys should include the rest of Michigan's law. It goes on to say that all it takes is one warning from the land owner or representative to revoke the right to retrieve.
Right to retrieve is meant to be a one time deal and not a means to repeatedly gain access to private property.
Also, has anyone from Wisconsin seen the brochure pertaining to the South Carolina hound hunting and deer movement study? A brochure would be a handy way of educating other hunters to the misconception that hounds run deer off.
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Originally posted by Larry Atherton
Also, has anyone from Wisconsin seen the brochure pertaining to the South Carolina hound hunting and deer movement study? A brochure would be a handy way of educating other hunters to the misconception that hounds run deer off.
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Originally posted by Larry Atherton
You guys should include the rest of Michigan's law. It goes on to say that all it takes is one warning from the land owner or representative to revoke the right to retrieve.
Right to retrieve is meant to be a one time deal and not a means to repeatedly gain access to private property.
Also, has anyone from Wisconsin seen the brochure pertaining to the South Carolina hound hunting and deer movement study? A brochure would be a handy way of educating other hunters to the misconception that hounds run deer off.
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Re: Wisconsin Retrieval of Hunting Dogs
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Originally posted by Kler Kry
The Wisconsin Conservation Congress will be voting on the following question on April 14 at 7:00 P.M. in all 72 counties.
Question # 48 reads;
Hunting dogs can stray onto property wher their owners do not have permission to be. Currently the animal cannot be legally retrieved without the property owner's permission. Property owners cannot always be located to obtain the necessary permission to retrieve a hunting dog. A quick retrieval is always in the best interest of the dog, dog owner, and property owner. In the States of Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois, and Iowa a person on foot may, without permission, enter private land without a firearm, to retrieve a hunting dog. After retrieving the dog, the person must immediately leave the premises. This exception does not authorize the taking of wild game.
Do you support legislation that would allow the owner of a hunting dog the ability to retrieve their hunting dog without landowner's permission?
Please attend this important meeting next Monday and vote yes on this question. Meeting location are posted on; dnr.wi.gov, Conservation Congress, Meeting Schedule
Your strong support is needed to take this issue to the legislature.
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Originally posted by Larry Atherton
Also, has anyone from Wisconsin seen the brochure pertaining to the South Carolina hound hunting and deer movement study? A brochure would be a handy way of educating other hunters to the misconception that hounds run deer off.
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Re: Re: Wisconsin Retrieval of Hunting Dogs
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Originally posted by Billy Beckham
I know they was working on one but as far as I know Illinois does not have a right to retrieve law
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That brochure pretty much backs up what we all know. But the results are very interesting. Gonna keep a copy on hand when I have a know it all deer hunter tell me all the deer move out when hounds are hunted in their woods. Even with the evidence in black and white, they will find excuses to say the results wouldn't apply around here.
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Originally posted by Diggerman
Larry ,it's been along time since I read Iowa's law but I am certain it said something like "unless previously told no to access".
Re: Re: Re: Wisconsin Retrieval of Hunting Dogs
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Originally posted by berger
If I remember correctly IL. passed a right to retrieve law. If it is a licensees field trial registered with the IL. Game and wildlife department. There has to be a certain amount of dogs entered in the field trial before it is valid. I don't remember the number of dogs that needs to be entered in the trial for it to take affect.
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Did anyone attending the Hearings submit a new resolution for next year? It should have been done. I didn't think of it in time.
The orginal resolution always gets changed by whatever Committee handles it. The Committee that handles the resolution submits the final draft of the qestion to be voted on by the Public in April.
Thanks again for everyone that voted.
Re: Personal Property Retrieval
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Originally posted by Kler Kry
Did anyone attending the Hearings submit a new resolution for next year? It should have been done. I didn't think of it in time.
The orginal resolution always gets changed by whatever Committee handles it. The Committee that handles the resolution submits the final draft of the qestion to be voted on by the Public in April.
Thanks again for everyone that voted.
Re: Re: Re: Wisconsin Retrieval of Hunting Dogs
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Originally posted by berger
If I remember correctly IL. passed a right to retrieve law. If it is a licensees field trial registered with the IL. Game and wildlife department. There has to be a certain amount of dogs entered in the field trial before it is valid. I don't remember the number of dogs that needs to be entered in the trial for it to take affect.
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i thought
it did pass but like berger said it applies only during a licensed night hunt and i believe there has to be at least 24 dogs in the hunt. the number could be wrong but that just rings a bell. in the smaller hunts anymore how many times do you get that many dogs. not many. i believe someone did there homework to come up with that number so the law would be useless to most of us.
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Originally posted by Dan D.
it did pass but like berger said it applies only during a licensed night hunt and i believe there has to be at least 24 dogs in the hunt. the number could be wrong but that just rings a bell. in the smaller hunts anymore how many times do you get that many dogs. not many. i believe someone did there homework to come up with that number so the law would be useless to most of us.
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Minnesota's retrieval law: A person ON FOOT may, without permission, enter private land WITHOUT A FIREARM to retrieve a hunting dog. After retrieving the dog, the person must immediately leave the premises. This exception does NOT authorize the taking of the wild animal.
This seems clear. NO vehicles, leaving quickly after catching dog, no firearm. Works for us here in Minnesota. I really haven't heard of any complaints from anyone, hunter nor landowner since this law was passed. I would say there maybe have been a few that were not heard about.
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Wisconsin Hunting Dog Retrieval
Monday night April 13 is annual WI Conservation Congress meeting for Public input into anything concerning game laws, and conservation. Sporting Club meetings are coming up within the next month. If we want take another shot at making it legal to retrieve your dog when you can't find the property owner to get permission then now is the time to write a resolution and submit it on April 13 at 7:00 in your County meeting.
What are your suggestions?
A hunting dog while engaged in a legal hunt shall not be considered an animal running at large and owner shall not be subject to a fine.
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