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Posted by CoonBusterWV on 09-03-2013 11:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by travis gideon
Sunfire will drowned these all out but it is about 8ozs heavier then these you have listed. So, brightness verses weight not sure what you might settle for.......good luck!


Ditto on the brightness of the sunfire..completely drowns everything out!

It is heavier because the head is machined aluminum not plastic made crap.

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Posted by travis gideon on 09-03-2013 11:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by CoonBusterWV
Ditto on the brightness of the sunfire..completely drowns everything out!

It is heavier because the head is machined aluminum not plastic made crap.



Right! Very well made light! I have field tested one of the lights list for the company and a couple of the others listed I have hunted with people who have them and it's no contest. But, when I bought my cordless I did not want to compromise performance and brightness....weight, size, switch position, etc did not matter to me and I got not only what I wanted in the Sunfire I got more! Was looking to by a cordless for a back-up light ended up hanging up the belt light and use the Sunfire as the main light now!!!

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Posted by boxmanwillie on 09-04-2013 12:34 AM:

SUNFIRE VS NEW BEACON

A GOOD BUDDY OF MINE BOUGHT THE SUNFIRE I KNOW IT WAS THE BRIGHTEST ONE THEY MADE WE WENT TO THE FIRST TREE AND WE COMPARED THE LIGHTS AND HE ENDED UP SELLING HIS SUNFIRE AND HE IS A SHOW ME TYPE GUY IN ANY THING HE BOUGHT THE NEW BEACON I AM POSTING THIS ON MY FREE WILL NOT BASHING ANY BODY ON WHAT LIGHTS THEY USE ONE THING ON THEM ALUMINUM HEADS THEY GET ANY WATER IN THEM OR GET TOO HOT YOUR ENTIRE LIGHT IS RUINED AS FOR THE HEAVY DUTY PLASTIC HEADS THERE HARD TO CRACK THEY CAN WITH STAND THE RAIN AND THEY DONT HEAT UP LIKE THEY ALUMINUM HEADS ON THE SUNFIRE LIGHTS BIG DIFFERENCE JUST LIKE ALUMINUM HEADS ON CARS IF THEY GET HOT OVER HEADED THEY WILL CRACK


Posted by CoonBusterWV on 09-04-2013 01:12 AM:

Re: SUNFIRE VS NEW BEACON

quote:
Originally posted by boxmanwillie
A GOOD BUDDY OF MINE BOUGHT THE SUNFIRE I KNOW IT WAS THE BRIGHTEST ONE THEY MADE WE WENT TO THE FIRST TREE AND WE COMPARED THE LIGHTS AND HE ENDED UP SELLING HIS SUNFIRE AND HE IS A SHOW ME TYPE GUY IN ANY THING HE BOUGHT THE NEW BEACON I AM POSTING THIS ON MY FREE WILL NOT BASHING ANY BODY ON WHAT LIGHTS THEY USE ONE THING ON THEM ALUMINUM HEADS THEY GET ANY WATER IN THEM OR GET TOO HOT YOUR ENTIRE LIGHT IS RUINED AS FOR THE HEAVY DUTY PLASTIC HEADS THERE HARD TO CRACK THEY CAN WITH STAND THE RAIN AND THEY DONT HEAT UP LIKE THEY ALUMINUM HEADS ON THE SUNFIRE LIGHTS BIG DIFFERENCE JUST LIKE ALUMINUM HEADS ON CARS IF THEY GET HOT OVER HEADED THEY WILL CRACK


Well dang..that beacon sounds like the best thing since a garmin tracking system..I may have to sell my sunspot and brand new sunfire to buy one..lol

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Posted by Morgan Richard on 09-04-2013 01:27 AM:

If you would read about the sunspot lights, before bashing the aluminum heads. Theyre made with heat ABSORBING technology. Read about it, then go edit your post.

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Posted by boxmanwillie on 09-04-2013 01:47 AM:

SUNFIRE VS NEW BEACON

NO DISRESPECT I WOULD HAVE TO SEE THE PAPER WORK ON THAT ONE LOL ONE THING THAT I DO KNOW IS THEPLASTIC HEADS COME FROM A HEAT TREATED MOLD THAT CAN WITH STAND THE HEAT THE MOLD IT SELF IS 800 DEGREES OR MORE AND IT IS TESTED THAT I DO KNOW ABOUT WORKED 2 YEARS IN MAINTENANCE PLASTIC MOLD PLANT THEY MADE A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING AND STILL DO ALUMINUM EXPANDS WHEN IT GETS HOT THE PLASTIC WILL LAST LONGER IN THE LONG RUN THE PLASTIC HEADS LAST LONGER AND CAN WITH STAND HEAT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME IT WHAT EVER A MAN LIKES NO DISRESPECT TO KNOW ONE


Posted by David Morgan on 09-04-2013 03:41 AM:

Boys, Boys, Boys, The Beacon and The Sunfire, along with The Boss and our Laser Pro are all good lights. It boils down to personal preference. I do however want clear up some things that really bug me. Some lights can not be put in a plastic head because they get to hot. It is much less expensive to use aluminum in the beginning because there is no mold cost. In our case it was $14,000. We have been approached by other light makers to use our head. The other thing is the battery holder. We use nylon because we like it. We could go to a battery box for about 20% of what we pay for the nylon.

Thanks,
David Morgan
Laser Torch Lights


Posted by boxmanwillie on 09-04-2013 04:03 AM:

MR MORGAN

YOU ARE CORRECT SIR PERSONAL PREFERENCE IS WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TOO THANKS FOR THE INPUT ON THIS MATTER


Posted by bob logan on 09-04-2013 04:07 AM:

cap lites

sounds like alot of good lites out there. thanks everyone for there input. im going with the laser tourch. good hunting and have fun everyone.


Posted by joey on 09-04-2013 06:28 AM:

Re: SUNFIRE VS NEW BEACON

quote:
Originally posted by boxmanwillie
NO DISRESPECT I WOULD HAVE TO SEE THE PAPER WORK ON THAT ONE LOL ONE THING THAT I DO KNOW IS THEPLASTIC HEADS COME FROM A HEAT TREATED MOLD THAT CAN WITH STAND THE HEAT THE MOLD IT SELF IS 800 DEGREES OR MORE AND IT IS TESTED THAT I DO KNOW ABOUT WORKED 2 YEARS IN MAINTENANCE PLASTIC MOLD PLANT THEY MADE A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING AND STILL DO ALUMINUM EXPANDS WHEN IT GETS HOT THE PLASTIC WILL LAST LONGER IN THE LONG RUN THE PLASTIC HEADS LAST LONGER AND CAN WITH STAND HEAT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME IT WHAT EVER A MAN LIKES NO DISRESPECT TO KNOW ONE


None of these lights get hot enough to crack, melt or anything else even remotely close. Most of the ones with the plastic heads do not have enough power to be concerned with heat. What does happen though is they can get hot enough to damage the electronics inside. A plastic heads that pushes enough amps (anything over 1 amp) is cooking inside like an oven with no way for the heat to escape. A properly designed aluminum head gets hot because it is removing the heat from the inside of the head and protecting the electronics. That is what it is designed to do. The plastic has an operating range of up to 176 degrees. That temp can be reached very quickly by electronics pushed past 1 amp and some of them are.

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Posted by Paint Creek English on 09-04-2013 11:31 AM:

I have both the sunspot sunfire and the lazer torch pro with colored red,green and amber and new defuser.Both these lights are great lights and it's hard to pick a favorite.I would recommend both !!

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Posted by Milner on 09-04-2013 02:06 PM:

Re: cap lites

quote:
Originally posted by bob logan
sounds like alot of good lites out there. thanks everyone for there input. im going with the laser tourch. good hunting and have fun everyone.
Cant beat the Torch. Best caplight bar none.

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Posted by HowellN on 09-04-2013 07:43 PM:

I bought a Lazer Torch Pro color with difuser at AO. After a few nights my belt light is officially retired. That was the best money I've spent in a long time, for the first time in a long time I have no "buyers remorse". It's like carrying 2 lights and 3 pop covers without the bulk.

The colored LEDs sold me on it over the others.


Posted by boxmanwillie on 09-04-2013 09:43 PM:

SUNFIRE VS NEW BEACON

JOEY WHAT YOU STATED ABOUT THE PLASTIC HEAD IS WRONG METAL IS A HEAT CONDUCTOR AND PLASTIC IS NOT YOU SEE WHEN THE PLASTIC HEADS ARE FORMED IN A MOLD THEY ARE CURED IN A OVEN FOR 24 HOURS THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE PLASTIC HEADS THAT I KNOW OF SPEAKING OF PLASTIC DID YOU KNOW THAT A MAJORITY OF VALVE COVERS ON 97 AND UP CARS ARE PLASTIC SO RIGHT THERE SHOWS YA THAT PLASTIC CAN WITH STAND THE HEAT RADIATORS AND INTAKES ON VEHICLES ARE MADE OF PLASTIC WE ALL HAVE GOOD THEORIES ONCE AGAIN I AM NOT BASHING KNOW ONE


Posted by joey on 09-04-2013 11:42 PM:

I know you are not bashing but there are several different types of plastic. These are a cheap abs plastic. Look it up you will find exactly what I said to be true and what you said about aluminum conducting heat is why it should be used for any electronics pushing 1 amp or more.

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http://www.sunspotlights.com/
When brightness matters!!

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PKC SCh CH Grnch They call me Howler too


Posted by john Duemmer on 09-05-2013 12:14 AM:

Just monday night at a hunt i put my sunfire in a tree next to a new laser torch pro. Pretty close in brightness but the sunfire has a larger beam and a better halo for walking. I have compared lots of the cap lights and these 2 are the brightest.
On the plastic versus aluminum head, Plastic (insulates)keeps the heat inside the head where the electronics are and aluminum transfers the heat to the outside, staying cooler where it needs to be cool.
The laser torch is a bit lighter, the sunfire throws a little more light. TOSSUP.

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