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Posted by conhtr1 on 08-10-2013 02:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Stocking
Start with your guns.

I don't believe I saw where Lee said when this all started.
Let's continue with our privacy ...emails/net information.

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Posted by trackdriver on 08-10-2013 08:00 PM:

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Originally posted by conhtr1
I don't believe I saw where Lee said when this all started.
Let's continue with our privacy ...emails/net information.

All nice till the tables are turned and besides didn't the cons.you claimed are about God and country voted on this issue. No need to say when you just started paying attention....just can't admit this is a common practice of the gov.from the start because that wouldn't fit in y'alls Obama smear contest. Bush's partiot act ring a bell con. and Obama followed suit. Sorry Lee but you can't think with hate for your guiding light.

Posted by conhtr1 on 08-10-2013 11:22 PM:

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Originally posted by trackdriver
All nice till the tables are turned and besides didn't the cons.you claimed are about God and country voted on this issue. No need to say when you just started paying attention....just can't admit this is a common practice of the gov.from the start because that wouldn't fit in y'alls Obama smear contest. Bush's partiot act ring a bell con. and Obama followed suit. Sorry Lee but you can't think with hate for your guiding light.

Tables turned? You assume much and you know what assuming does.
A little tidbit for you youngsters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsEHbVpGUMI
manipulation by "the powers in charge".

Posted by trackdriver on 08-10-2013 11:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by conhtr1
Tables turned? You assume much and you know what assuming does.
A little tidbit for you youngsters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsEHbVpGUMI
manipulation by "the powers in charge".

Assuming?? Read history and yes tables turned,this country has been spying on it's citizens for awhile and futher more a high percentage of people are being manipulated into believeing something oneway or another. Whatever affects these people will affect those people sooner or later.

Posted by conhtr1 on 08-11-2013 12:38 AM:

No doubt you did not watch the video from 1975...about CIA using media manipulation.

Posted by Lee Stocking on 08-11-2013 01:11 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
The only time you put up your guard is when Obama was voted in. Read some American history some you'll be familar with the country we live in and it's treatment of Americans.

This statement is you putting words in place for me buddy. Not once did I EVER say I supported before Obama. I just have enough sense to know the guards are much more needed with Obama.

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Posted by trackdriver on 08-11-2013 01:54 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Stocking
This statement is you putting words in place for me buddy. Not once did I EVER say I supported before Obama. I just have enough sense to know the guards are much more needed with Obama.

What? "Guards much more needed" You either don't know the past or don't care as long as Obama isn't office,got some news for ya,he ain't the last Obama.Lol!! Why do you hate Obama?

Posted by conhtr1 on 08-11-2013 02:27 AM:

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Originally posted by trackdriver
So by wanting background checks will lead to one car and kid,really lee your stretching it to prove your anti-obama point.

So by wanting background checks and oh what about having to list every firearm (why else have to put paperwork on every private and business transaction pertaining to a gun) and let's not forget the spying. You sure we aren't heading to full control of what we can and can't do.
Track. tell me why we must go through a background check every purchase. I have a concealed carry. Why wouldn't that suffice for a private sale? Why didn't the politicians push for a less intrusive yet safe method of those of us that have already passed an extensive background check? I'll tell you why. They want a list. It will go along with your emails and phone records.

Posted by trackdriver on 08-11-2013 02:46 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by conhtr1
So by wanting background checks and oh what about having to list every firearm (why else have to put paperwork on every private and business transaction pertaining to a gun) and let's not forget the spying. You sure we aren't heading to full control of what we can and can't do.
Track. tell me why we must go through a background check every purchase. I have a concealed carry. Why wouldn't that suffice for a private sale? Why didn't the politicians push for a less intrusive yet safe method of those of us that have already passed an extensive background check? I'll tell you why. They want a list. It will go along with your emails and phone records.

Ok conhtr1,too buzz to type,lol!! I do agree with the gov.wanting control but if WE DON'T STICK TOGETHER,THAT'S LEAVING SILLY CRAP BEHIND,WE PLAY RIGHT INTO THEIR HANDS. Division wins everytime! Good night.

Posted by Lee Stocking on 08-11-2013 04:59 AM:

I'm not gonna keep going back n fourth Track Sorry.

Posted by trackdriver on 08-11-2013 12:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Stocking
I'm not gonna keep going back n fourth Track Sorry.

I don't blame you besides support,no outrage till now,or no acknowledgement of the issue existence in the past is all the same.

Posted by Lee Stocking on 08-11-2013 08:10 PM:

We didn't have the opportunity to comment back n forth back then so that theory of yours doesn't fly. Put any republicans that act like Nobama and I'll throw them under the bus just the same. DO YOU COMPREHEND??????

Posted by trackdriver on 08-11-2013 08:53 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Stocking
We didn't have the opportunity to comment back n forth back then so that theory of yours doesn't fly. Put any republicans that act like Nobama and I'll throw them under the bus just the same. DO YOU COMPREHEND??????

So we didn't but you summed it up by saying "any republican that acts like nobama"as if there hasn't been a repub. with same policies and issues. That's pretty loud and clear,you have an Obama problem not a Gov.problem. Wow!!!

Posted by Lee Stocking on 08-11-2013 09:41 PM:

Stop twisting my posts into your way of thinking. Your not trying to comprehend. Sit down and really try to understandwhat im trying to tell you or let me change any "individual" with Obama policies will get thrown under the bus.
You need to travel out of the country again maybe get a perspective of freedom.

Posted by trackdriver on 08-11-2013 10:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Stocking
Stop twisting my posts into your way of thinking. Your not trying to comprehend. Sit down and really try to understandwhat im trying to tell you or let me change any "individual" with Obama policies will get thrown under the bus.
You need to travel out of the country again maybe get a perspective of freedom.

I understand very well your problem with Obama but sorry there's been repubs.with the same issues, policies but you failed to acknowleged them as you do dems.or Obama. I need to travel to understand freedom,maybe you need travel to understand how division works,one view,greed,and not recognizing all it's citizen. You've been on this board long enough to know where most of these guy heads are and alot of them only can see as far as their nose.

Posted by Lee Stocking on 08-11-2013 11:25 PM:

Your as much divided as anyone on here my friend. Any democrat comes in with policies that I agree with could possibly earn my vote. Again the Obama admin lost my respect a long time ago.
I did see he wanted home loans to be private sector. I was happy to see that. I did not like his comment stating he was not for dictatorship (like the American people says different) because his history is very apparent he wants bigger Gov.

Posted by trackdriver on 08-12-2013 02:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Stocking
Your as much divided as anyone on here my friend. Any democrat comes in with policies that I agree with could possibly earn my vote. Again the Obama admin lost my respect a long time ago.
I did see he wanted home loans to be private sector. I was happy to see that. I did not like his comment stating he was not for dictatorship (like the American people says different) because his history is very apparent he wants bigger Gov.

And bush wasn't for bigger gov.but you forgot that. The same American people you speak of voted the man in office.What policies did bush have you agreed with? LOL! Divided,...oh because i call him names,make up lies or cloak my hate in policies or issues. Anyway Lee,good night and you have the last say,man. Obama lost your respect when he enter the race besides what dem.have you voted for?

Posted by Lee Stocking on 08-12-2013 03:21 AM:

I can tell you I didn't vote for Clinton or Obama and you can form your own pessimistic opinion from there. I'm 43 was to young to vote prior to them. One more thing "again" your the one always reverting to Bush not I. Ive stated negative statements toward Bush but you either don't see that or choose to ignore them.
You n I both know when a democrat is in office the American people are usually spending time n energy fighting for rights.

Hey BTW did i mention I just spent the week over seas with Israelis, South Koreans, , Singaporeans, Chinese, and Germans who pretty much summedup they didn't trust Obama either? These are all white/blue collard workers. Its a awsome experience working closely with others from all walks of life. Also good to know we all form the same type opinion about Government.

Posted by conhtr1 on 08-12-2013 03:34 AM:

Can I choose to smoke? No, it's not good for you
can I choose a large soda? No it's not good for you.
can I choose to own a gun? No, not safe for kids.
can I chose an incandescent light bulb? No, not good for the planet.
can I choose low cost coal? No, not good for the planet.
can I choose to honor God? No that's offensive.
So, just what can I choose? Oh yes, can still choose an abortion.

Posted by trackdriver on 08-12-2013 03:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Stocking
I can tell you I didn't vote for Clinton or Obama and you can form your own pessimistic opinion from there. I'm 43 was to young to vote prior to them. One more thing "again" your the one always reverting to Bush not I. Ive stated negative statements toward Bush but you either don't see that or choose to ignore them.
You n I both know when a democrat is in office the American people are usually spending time n energy fighting for rights.

Hey BTW did i mention I just spent the week over seas with Israelis, South Koreans, , Singaporeans, Chinese, and Germans who pretty much summedup they didn't trust Obama either? These are all white/blue collard workers. Its a awsome experience working closely with others from all walks of life. Also good to know we all form the same type opinion about Government.

Next time you go at least bring me back some dirt! LOl!! Good night good buddy. P.s. bush had alot of the big gov.policies you are against now and never heard you say how much you hated him a so where could that bias come from?

Posted by trackdriver on 08-12-2013 03:40 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by conhtr1
Can I choose to smoke? No, it's not good for you
can I choose a large soda? No it's not good for you.
can I choose to own a gun? No, not safe for kids.
can I chose an incandescent light bulb? No, not good for the planet.
can I choose low cost coal? No, not good for the planet.
can I choose to honor God? No that's offensive.
So, just what can I choose? Oh yes, can still choose an abortion.

You can? A male? No laws saying you can't choose any of the above but if there was a law saying you can't smoke,drink,own a gun,ect....you'd be one crying about the gov.in your business....oh the right to choose.

Posted by conhtr1 on 08-12-2013 04:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
You can? A male? No laws saying you can't choose any of the above but if there was a law saying you can't smoke,drink,own a gun,ect....you'd be one crying about the gov.in your business....oh the right to choose.

The government is in your business. Restricts all the above in some circumstances. You're so busy thinking I am blaming Obama while I am merely saying ALL government is restrictive. I think you're in love with him. Feel you must defend him no matter what.

Posted by Lee Stocking on 08-12-2013 04:42 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by trackdriver
You can? A male? No laws saying you can't choose any of the above but if there was a law saying you can't smoke,drink,own a gun,ect....you'd be one crying about the gov.in your business....oh the right to choose.

No laws because we fought for those rights, n should not have had to.(ie..Dems).. High taxed though...
I never said Bush didn't have problems, thats you assuming maybe i thought that way. Im not about Bush, im way past his mistakes. Glad to see we finally shut down some embassies,,way over due.

Posted by Lee Stocking on 08-12-2013 07:39 AM:

Rule of thumb in my business.. Never EVER ridicule...Should he be allowed to ridicule Putin? My answer is NO!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0c...be_gdata_player

Posted by trackdriver on 08-12-2013 12:04 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by conhtr1
The government is in your business. Restricts all the above in some circumstances. You're so busy thinking I am blaming Obama while I am merely saying ALL government is restrictive. I think you're in love with him. Feel you must defend him no matter what.

Did i mention obama when posting to ya? We shouldn't have restrictions? Maybe you hate the man so is the reason you think without a little name calling or lying means I support him.

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