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Posted by joey on 05-07-2013 11:24 PM:

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Gary Moore had the prefix "Honky Tonk", and I hunt a family of his hounds. I had several females in the program with that prefix, what was she out of? Tom


Wessels wild Casey and Nance cache river Striker.

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Posted by Nova70 on 05-08-2013 12:23 AM:

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I think they are bad. How do you keep mice and rats out of them? The ones I saw a guy using his dog just nudged the door back with its snout and the door seemed to stick from getting hung up on dog food. Are they designed differently now?
What if you are auto feeding and your dog eats a decent amount 30 minutes before you go hunting? Then you stand a chance of a twisted gut.
Auto feeders are a little on the lazy side in my opinion. Your animals need checked on daily so if you are checking on them any way like you should, an auto feeder is unnecessary.

HOW DO FIGURE IT'S ON THE LAZY SIDE?MINE HAVE BEEN ON AUTO FEEDER'S FOR YEAR'S NO PROBLEM'S .STILL CHECK ON THEM EVERY DAY.SO JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE USE'S AUTO FEEDER'S DON'T MEAN THEY ARE LAZY.LOOK AT BEEF FARMER'S THEY HAVE AUTO FEEDER'S GUESS THE FARMER'S ARE LAZY TO THEN.


Posted by jdgher on 05-08-2013 02:25 AM:

After the hunt

I feed after the hunt. If I hunt close to home and the dog hasn't had much time to cool down then I give half the normal amount and then feed the rest in the morning. If I don't hunt I feed in the evening.
I figure twice a day is probably the best if you are up early. I also have seen dogs throw up 10 hours after being fed and food looked like they had eaten 1/2 an hour before.
It may not matter at all related to twisted stomachs, but that is what has worked for me 20+ years.

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Posted by Melanie H. on 05-08-2013 08:45 AM:

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I have never even heard of a twisted gut with a hound. It is a genetic problem and is mostly in large breeds like Danes.


I know a bluetick that twisted his gut and was put down.

I feed twice a day. Never right before or right after a hunt. And the days I do hunt I soak the dog's food before they get it. Food is already expanded when they eat it. I don't know if it helps, but it's what I do... I like the twice a day feeding so they are not stuffing themselves with so much at one time..

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Posted by dmccane81 on 05-08-2013 09:03 AM:

twisted gut

I just lost a 3 year old uchtman blue tick 5/6/13.... and he hadn't been hunt in bout 6 days... I work night shift.. got home @8am and feed got up around 4 30 pm and it was to late... he had swelled like a pop belly pig... don't no why hes stomach turned just no I lost a fine hound


Posted by pigsit on 05-08-2013 04:11 PM:

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Wessels wild Casey and Nance cache river Striker.
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Posted by capt_agricultur on 05-08-2013 04:12 PM:

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we use self feeders.....no problems


Posted by garminguru on 05-09-2013 02:53 AM:

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HOW DO FIGURE IT'S ON THE LAZY SIDE?MINE HAVE BEEN ON AUTO FEEDER'S FOR YEAR'S NO PROBLEM'S .STILL CHECK ON THEM EVERY DAY.SO JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE USE'S AUTO FEEDER'S DON'T MEAN THEY ARE LAZY.LOOK AT BEEF FARMER'S THEY HAVE AUTO FEEDER'S GUESS THE FARMER'S ARE LAZY TO THEN.


How many farmers consider their cows part of the family? Silly comparison.
How many are on auto feeders that do not check on them every day? Just because you say you do does not mean everyone else does?
How do you keep the vermin out of your auto feeder?
If you are checking on them every day, why not just feed them every day? At least that way you know how much they are eating every day and you can spot consumption issues immediately.
I guess next you are going to tell me you track how much feed is in the auto feeder every day? Even more reason to just feed them every day.
I see no benefit to an auto feeder whatsoever unless someone just does not want to mess with checking on their dogs every day.
That is not to say someone on here will not give me an example as to why auto feeding works better, I am just waiting to see one.
I know personally exactly 3 hunters that use auto feeders and 2 of them had something very much in common, laziness. The other guy lives 30 minutes from where his hounds do.


Posted by Redwood Hounds on 05-09-2013 03:01 AM:

Working for a vet the only ones we've seen bloat commonly are danes and labs. Never seems to have anything to do with them eating or excercising, its just them.

When I was growing up we had a 14 year old hound twist his gut. The vet was able to fix it the first time, within a month or so he did it again and had to be put down. It had nothing to do with what or when he ate. He just had weak muscles and was old and the stomach was just able to twist on its own.

I feed mine every 12 hours. Usually at 7am and 7pm. Doesn't matter what I have planned. I prefer them to have eaten something. I've seen plenty of blood sugar issues in dogs. I know what I feel like after not eating all day and being active.

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Posted by Jeff Ashmore on 05-09-2013 08:43 PM:

Flipped Stomach

I have seen it happen before in hounds, More in hound crosses. Most time dog dies. I even had a beagle that did it once but that was odd. Always feed after or twice like fellows say early in morning to get out of system. I had a hound field trial dog do it once in 1986. He ran a a hard final 1 mile track thru a plowed field. He was in great (shape 5 miles ad day, 5 days a week type of shape 6 weeks in) value of hound $5000. I did not know that track was such or i would not have ran him. This was with no feed in him and it happened. He simply ran to hard he was all heart. Please do not feed or haul dog long distance right before you hunt. always taking a chance and it is not pretty seeing them die of partinitis.

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Posted by cooncommander315 on 05-09-2013 10:46 PM:

I feed mid day


Posted by SFWALKER on 05-10-2013 07:55 AM:

If you don't have an auto feeder you should feed twice a day. Helps with metabolism and provides nutrition throughout the day. Feeding once a day makes them go for hours with no nutrition for their body to use while rebuilding after a hard hunt. I keep food out 24/7. Never had a problem. They never gorge because they know its always available. The only time they eat a lot is right after a hunt when their body needs it the most.

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Posted by bo cater on 05-10-2013 12:06 PM:

Before, after or maybe during... Just depends on when I think about it!


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