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Posted by Brother David on 02-03-2013 07:00 PM:

Men I Hunt with a group that hunts public on any giving nite we tree coon where others dont and cant . I all you want is a tree grabbing hound dog that cant get deep use buckets all you want . And by the way I think its jasper any woods any time or the parking lot at walmart I know what I feed and haul can be reach at 912 221 0279.


Posted by Doug Bowers on 02-03-2013 07:01 PM:

Best thing to do is stay away from HUNTS.
mandatory htx not going to happen
doing away with feeder buckets . not going to happen

If you hunting a coon dog. it dont mater.

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Posted by Joseph A Clark on 02-03-2013 07:10 PM:

I work a month on and a month off, so when I get home I go fill feeders up both tires and buckets. It does help draw the coons in and makes for an enjoyable hunt. Another place I hunt rarely ever gets " corned " if it does it's poured in mud holes etc. I seem to have better luck at the place where I don't put corn out much if at all. I don't see anything wrong with putting corn out a few days before a hunt to draw coons in. It helps ensure a better hunt for people. But I don't think you should leave buckets hanging and drop the dogs 25 yards from them either. I think ukc knows people will do it regardless. So they have the rule to keep from making it so wide spread and to keep it from getting really out of control. JMO


Posted by curtis hansley on 02-03-2013 07:11 PM:

Re: Feefers Gotta Go In Nite Hunts

quote:
Originally posted by Brother David
Men its time those of us who are serious about our sport step up and do what it takes to get feeders out of our sport . Feeders have there place but they dont belong in hunts . A cast is suppose to be composed of dogs who can hunt and tree there on coon competing against one another ( what if ukc made it mandatory for a dog to have htx in front before they could enter a hunt ) but comp hunting has become a sport of which dog does the best over bait and draws the fewest minuses . I know some of you are goin to use the excuse we need game at hunts and each dog has the same chance . After all arent we (hunting) if a coon is setting 50 yards in the woods on a feeder how much hunting has to take place. Its nothing more than a glorified treeing contest . Lets put the HUNT back in NITE HUNT
Me personaly,don't really matter if i go to a hunt I will be leading a dog that will hunt if it takes it or if we are on feeder's we will smoke thim to, don't matter to me let's go hunting boy's.It's nice when someone try's to dry hole you and your hound still get's the job done.If your leading a real hound it will be ready for any obsticle that's put in front of him or her,if not hunt your hound some more,and make sure it can get it done in any circumstance.


Posted by slobbermouth21 on 02-03-2013 07:49 PM:

i got one bucket out but i really like hunting public land it just makes me respect the dog more since he didnt have a honey hole to run to. plus i believe to get a dog ready for night hunts he should be hunted as much as he can on public land if it dont make the cut on public land time for him to go because he is not coondog materal.

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Posted by brushrunretiree on 02-03-2013 08:04 PM:

I THINK EVERYONE MISSED MY POINT. MY POINT IS; HUNTING ON A FEEDER BUCKET IS NO DIFFERENT THAN HUNTING A CORN PATCH IN INDIANA, THEY BOTH DRAW COONS IN!!!! IF YOU HUNT WHEN CHERRYS ARE RIPE, THEY DRAW COONS INTO THEM. IF YOU HUNT IN THE FALL, WHEN THE ACORNS DROP, THEY ATTRACT GOONS!! THATS MY POINT, WHICH IS THE WORST, THE PLACE YOU DECIDE TO BAN?? I THINK THIS IS GREAT FOR OPINIONS, BUT LACKS SUBSTANCE BECAUSE IT NOT DOABLE.!!!! HUNT WHERE YOU WANT TO HUNT AND LET THE OTHER PERSON HUNT WHERE HE WANTS TO HUNT!! I'LL GO FURTHER, YOU ASK ANYONE WHO GOES TO A.O. @LABOR DAY, IF THEY WANT TO HUNT CORNFIELDS OR PARKING LOTS!! MY POINT EXACTLY. YOU HAVE TO HUNT WHERE YOU THINK THE COONS ARE, OR THERE'S NO NEED GOING!!


Posted by Brother David on 02-03-2013 08:35 PM:

As well some missed mine. The problem I have is that we are granding dogs out but cannot hook for themselves . You beat me I will shake your hand pat you back and give congrats . We have got to do something to get the PED'S out of our sport . That what i am talking about. We have dogs that can hunt winning hunts because they stay close and win with out working .


Posted by Brother David on 02-03-2013 08:42 PM:

Hunt not hook. that's what we get we talked to this blasted phones


Posted by workennels on 02-03-2013 08:59 PM:

Feeders or not really don't make difference to me, what sucks is when the guide is leading the hunt then starts dropping in pine thickets or been hunting feeders all nite then turning out in spots obviously don't look coonie.... Oh well though, reckon that's the name of the game Ill take my loses and roll with it, not blame it on feeders or shady guides whether that's the case or not Im gonna look at what me or my hound done to cause me to lose instead of finding other reasons. sure cant wait till I get a dog that can win regardless. jmo

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Posted by Jackson87 on 02-03-2013 09:19 PM:

WOW.Never knew so many people hunted over feeder buckets.They have there place and time but to me there for young dogs.I dont see why a real coonhound would have to be turned loose towards a feeder to tree a coon.Pretty sad.


Posted by Whordel on 02-03-2013 09:33 PM:

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WOW.Never knew so many people hunted over feeder buckets.They have there place and time but to me there for young dogs.I dont see why a real coonhound would have to be turned loose towards a feeder to tree a coon.Pretty sad.
The whole state of Indiana is basically one big feeder bucket !!!

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Posted by cleveland on 02-03-2013 09:39 PM:

Thats why i pleasure hunt. I could go on but enough said.


Posted by brushrunretiree on 02-03-2013 09:41 PM:

EXACTLY, AND THEY WANT O BAN FEEDERS, GUESS THEN AUTUMN OAKS, WALKER DAYS, THE OTHER HUNTS WILL JUST HAVE TO BE STOPPED. NOW, DO YOU SEE HOW STUPID THIS WHOLE THING LOOKS!!


Posted by Brother David on 02-03-2013 10:10 PM:

A corn field creek bottom or any other type of feed is not the same as having a bunch of coons coming to same spot not acerage every day filling up and climbing . Do you yall think so ? I use buckets to start pups then we move them to OTHER PLACES WHERE RACOONS LIVE to hunt ? Iam not trying to fish with nothing on my hook on in the middle of the desert but to me fishing in wading pool would be no fun . Sure every once in a while is ok especially if take my kid , but how would you like to see bass pull all there boats inside bass pro and fish the classic there from the see through tank . Instead they do go to good lakes with good populations but they dont fish a tank. Do really think feeders and corn fields are the same or are we trying to reassure ourselves.


Posted by cody jaster on 02-03-2013 10:28 PM:

I've got corn feeders out for deer hunting on the ranch and hunt them! I hunt all over the place but train off corn feeders. When I got to a hunt I usually win where ever I go. Guess my dogs are just BETTER at hunting than most. They don't look for a feeder...they look for a coon...as soon as they are unsnapped here or yonder...don't matter to them!!!


Posted by brushrunretiree on 02-03-2013 11:25 PM:

MY OPINION AND MINE ALONE IS THAT FEEDERS, CORN, CHERRY TREES, OAK TREES, CREEKS, PONDS, GARBAGE CANS, GARBAGE DUMPS ARE ALL, I REPEAT, ALL , ALL' ARE ATTRACTANTS!! A COON IS A SCAVENGER, WHEREVER HE FINDS SOMETHING TO EAT, HE'LL RETURN THE NEXT NIGHT AND SEE IF ANYTHING IS THERE. GET PAST THE WORD FEEDER,AND I THINK YOU'LL AGREE THAT IF YOU KNOW WHERE THERE'S COONS, THAT'S WHERE YOU TURN LOOSE!! I DON'T KNOW OF ANYONE THAT TURNS LOOSE IN A STRIP MALL, TO TRY A TREE A COON.!!!!


Posted by Dwils on 02-03-2013 11:37 PM:

i strongly disagree with the comment that cornfields, cherries, etc are the same as buckets. Ive hunted in the south quite a bit and enjoyed it every time. But when you draw someone that guides you to buckets, those dogs know EXACTLY where to go. When your hunting indiana corn fields, those coon feed whenever and wherever they want, its completely random. Hunts up here in the north are without a doubt have the most level playing field . Just about anywhere you go your going to tree alot of coon if your hunting a nice dog.


the best way to solve all of this is do away with UKC old way of doings things and all you have to do is beat the dogs you draw and win your cast to advance , like pkc.

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Posted by brushrunretiree on 02-04-2013 12:36 AM:

OPINIONS ARE FREE, GUARANTEED UNDER THE FIRST AMENDENT, I SEE NO DIFFERENCE. EVERYTHING IS AN ATTRACTANT, YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION WHERE YOU'RE DOG STRIKES?? YOU KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND, THEN WHEN THEY GET AROUND THERE, THE NEXT TIME, YOU COCK THAT EAR SO YOU CAN HEAR GOOD. THAT MEANS THE SAME AS FEEDERS TO ME. EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR AN EDGE TO HELP THEIR DOG. SO WHETHER IT'S A FEEDER BUCKET OR CORN FIELDS OR CREEKS YOU ARE STILL HUNTING WHERE YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF TREEING A COON! IF COONS AREN'T WORKING THE BUCKET, YOU'RE IN FOR A HIKE, CAUSE ANY DOG WORTH HIS SALT, IS GOING HUNTING!!


Posted by Brother David on 02-04-2013 12:58 AM:

The if plays a big role corn fields persimmons etc. ARE not the same when eat all the feeds gone they move to another area of the field they dont have a deer come in pour more out . I am not sure about up north but in the deep south our fields are alot bigger than a 5 gallon bucket . Plus most of these buckets cocncentrate then coon in a 300 yard radius most dont run far just up . Dont do much comp hunting any way . Twice in 3 years . But if you want to shoot fish in a barrel go ahead i like the Hunt part as well as the tree . All I was basing my opinion on was dog that are bucket hunted regulary in the same spot nite after nite most dont hunt


Posted by pastor on 02-04-2013 12:59 AM:

I lived in West Virginia for 12 years until I moved back to Ohio this past summer and it is totaly different from hunting feeders those bucket dogs know where to go to find the buckets and most of the time the coons are there , cornfields in ohio or indiana coons have acres to feed from , doesn't have to be in one bucket area, I've seen several dogs that has made ntch and grntch that can't tree a coon in the wild , I have hunted my dogs in feeder bucket cast and have won , But would like to see a more ballanced playing field , lost several ntch cast because somone that hunted buckets came in with a higher cast score than myself hunting in the wild. I just came to the understanding that I wasnt going to donate anymore money. I'm not a poor sport , but I'm not a dummy either lol

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Posted by Nat Thomas on 02-04-2013 01:28 AM:

If your hunting a coondog then why do you care what you turn loose on. A Coondog prevails no matter what the circumstances. Why does everyone care how everyone else finishes out their dog? If its makes them happy then let them be happy and go tree your wild coon. If they outlawed feeders all the crybabies would start whining about something else.

GET A COONDOG AND BEAT THEM.


Posted by BOOBOOBRADY on 02-04-2013 01:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Brother David
Men I Hunt with a group that hunts public on any giving nite we tree coon where others dont and cant . I all you want is a tree grabbing hound dog that cant get deep use buckets all you want . And by the way I think its jasper any woods any time or the parking lot at walmart I know what I feed and haul can be reach at 912 221 0279.


A dog still has to tree a coon on a feeder or off a feeder
as you say a coon dog is coon dog no matter were you cut him

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Posted by GA DAWG on 02-04-2013 01:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Nat Thomas
If your hunting a coondog then why do you care what you turn loose on. A Coondog prevails no matter what the circumstances. Why does everyone care how everyone else finishes out their dog? If its makes them happy then let them be happy and go tree your wild coon. If they outlawed feeders all the crybabies would start whining about something else.

GET A COONDOG AND BEAT THEM.

They can't beat them. Heck fire they don't hunt the hunts lol. Like to complain though. I believe they think they have something special because they can tree a Coon without feeders. Makes their dogs look real tough in their heads. What they fail to realize is a Coon dog will get his. Feeder or not.

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Posted by Brother David on 02-04-2013 02:00 AM:

Never said couldnt beat em choose not to . Ga dawg you no good that half of buckets dogs around are junk . Would love to meet around macon go to wma and turn em loose one at a time . Mine doesnt need H E L P just woods .


Posted by Jackson87 on 02-04-2013 03:09 AM:

They ant gonna ban feeders from hunts.Like they already said cornfeilds and oak trees are only good for a short period of time.All the food sources are gone right now and a dog has to search 600 -1000 yards to find a track.Just curious and be honest how far to you park from you feeders???I know most hunters dont like to walk far.I dont really care how you title your dog but sayin a feeder bucket coon is the same as a wild coon is clearly in denial.Thats like sayin its no easier to kill a deer in a 2 acre food plot that it is a 500 acre cornfeild.


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