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Originally posted by cody jaster
I guess your dog can strike and tree itself? You ultimately have to make a call. Whether a good one or a bad one. If someone's dog is alittle better than yours or you make a bad call then you have to play catch up and fast. You are up against the clock. it's called competition hunting. You and your dog are a team. In a team sport you work together to overcome each others short coming in order to be victorious over then others to win. Someone's going to win it...why not me!

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Heres a good one wouldnt say it was out handled say i got straight played lol...First drop took 2nd and first coon scored dogs trailing recast i struck back in for a quarter tree hooker deep 3 other dogs are trailing near us...judge looks at me puts the two well what for there she is other guy looks at me says thats my dog i tell him well tree him then we will just see (knowing whos it is) judge says 2 still running i look at him there she is 4 or 5 times straight my female is a 120 BPM TREEDAWG he said two caught her others agreed well i told him ill just sign the card and enjoy there boo hoo race rest of the night...Hooker had the meat lol but it happens count your losses and head on down the road!

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English Heat

Still don't make it right, but you are right not much we can do about it, I have learned to ask if judge can hear my dog deep before i tree and has still bit me a couple times, funny how some go deaf all of a sudden (and other handlers in the cast also?) LOL.. what goes around comes around LOL..

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I usually get out handled every time I cut loose. Even when I'm alone. lol

The wins will come, and I'll do it the way it's supposed to be done, I was raised better than that. If I don't get the wins, I'll just own a PR dog I suppose. Poke all the fun you want to, it's not going to bother me.

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Re: English Heat

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Originally posted by Randy Howard
Still don't make it right, but you are right not much we can do about it, I have learned to ask if judge can hear my dog deep before i tree and has still bit me a couple times, funny how some go deaf all of a sudden (and other handlers in the cast also?) LOL.. what goes around comes around LOL..

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R.I.P
Ntch Indiana Jones (Woodstock redman x blue arrow)

NTCH Buck Creeks Wild Wendy (Shannon’s iron Hank x Shannon’s Flossie)

Grntch Main Street Hooker (Main Street Max x Twin Creek Patch)

Grntch Main Street Ramblin Rambo (Main Street Max x Buck Creeks Wild Wendy) **Semen** ‘14 1st place Grnite Bluetick Days

Grntch Pkc CH Main Street Dyno (Main Street Dino x Red Ruby Suzie) final 4 pkc black n tan days, final 4 Indiana Autumn Pro Classic, semi finals legacy

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Originally posted by JustinH23
I usually get out handled every time I cut loose. Even when I'm alone. lol

The wins will come, and I'll do it the way it's supposed to be done, I was raised better than that. If I don't get the wins, I'll just own a PR dog I suppose. Poke all the fun you want to, it's not going to bother me.

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Like I said before there is a big differnce in just being out handled and flat out cheating. Great handlers are almost always handling good coondogs. A good coondog and a great handler are hard to beat. I will do whatever it takes within the rules to beat you but I will not cheat you. The S$it eaters out there are usally handled buy the cheaters.

Poor sportsmanship

4 dog cast! All dogs struck, 3 dogs treed together close, mine treed alone deeper. Score their tree, circle. Go to my dog. A huge tree on the side of the hill in mid summer. Shine for about 8 min and finally got the coon to look at me. I'm clear at the bottom of the hill in a field. One handler walks up and says yep, there he is, dog done good. 2nd handler says where?? I can't see it! The 3rd handler is way on top the hill, and no way will make it to us within shine time. Both eyes are glaring down at us! 2nd handler says I don't see him, how much time is left on tree? 1 min I say! Both me and 1st handler are dumb founded that this guy says he can't see this coon that completely standing out now! 2nd handler is quiet then ask, how much time, 15 seconds. He waits a few and says time up? Yes is now! He says oh I see it now, but now u can't score it! I didn't see in within time! Cast voted to plus my dog. He questioned it and at end of hunt, that was the only coon seen. He still wanted it question and of course master hound went his way in that rqe! No cast winner.

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Originally posted by BRK_Smoke
4 dog cast! All dogs struck, 3 dogs treed together close, mine treed alone deeper. Score their tree, circle. Go to my dog. A huge tree on the side of the hill in mid summer. Shine for about 8 min and finally got the coon to look at me. I'm clear at the bottom of the hill in a field. One handler walks up and says yep, there he is, dog done good. 2nd handler says where?? I can't see it! The 3rd handler is way on top the hill, and no way will make it to us within shine time. Both eyes are glaring down at us! 2nd handler says I don't see him, how much time is left on tree? 1 min I say! Both me and 1st handler are dumb founded that this guy says he can't see this coon that completely standing out now! 2nd handler is quiet then ask, how much time, 15 seconds. He waits a few and says time up? Yes is now! He says oh I see it now, but now u can't score it! I didn't see in within time! Cast voted to plus my dog. He questioned it and at end of hunt, that was the only coon seen. He still wanted it question and of course master hound went his way in that rqe! No cast winner.

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Originally posted by amazingcursouth
jerry wayne is slick. don't bobble, slip or slide if your handling against him. he won't cheat and he won't lie. but he knows how to win a cast.

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Originally posted by cody jaster
I seriously doubt that!!! We would have fun on that cast wouldn't we? You might beat me but, in the end you would know me and my dog were there...that for sure. Win some and you loose some. Competition is a game... How well you play that game determines how you win, or loose!

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