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Posted by TomPurdy on 10-20-2012 04:56 PM:

Trackdriver, I believe you do have are country's best interest in mind, and I also know I will never change your mind just as you will never change mine. But I have noticed that 2/3 of your post either begin or end with LOL. I don't really see anything funny about this situation. I also would like you to respond to Mr. Adams question on abortion. I also would like to enter into a debate with you, because I do think we both have the country's best interest in mind. But we would have to act like men, not children!!

Posted by Wingman66 on 10-20-2012 05:19 PM:

If you just want to jaw politics I got a little time. You say 125 babies have been 'slaughtered'. How is that obama's, mine, yours, or bushes fault for that matter? Should'nt those deeds be laid at the feet of the people who did the 'slaughtering?'

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Posted by Doug Adams on 10-20-2012 05:25 PM:

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Originally posted by Wingman66
If you just want to jaw politics I got a little time. You say 125 babies have been 'slaughtered'. How is that obama's, mine, yours, or bushes fault for that matter? Should'nt those deeds be laid at the feet of the people who did the 'slaughtering?'

Yeah it's the doctors fault, the woman's fault and mostly the president of the United States for not only allowing this to be legal but fighting for it!!

Posted by trackdriver on 10-20-2012 05:29 PM:

Anybody who knows me know i do alot of smling and some points not so funny. Laughing keeps me from crying. Ok doug.

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Posted by Doug Adams on 10-20-2012 05:33 PM:

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Originally posted by trackdriver
Anybody who knows me know i do alot of smling and you're not so funny on some points. Laughing keeps me from crying. Ok doug.

This makes no sense to me trackdriver. Looks like you might want to check the user names on each post before you reply using my name. .

You still haven't responded to what I actually posted!

Posted by Jonathan Scott on 10-20-2012 05:37 PM:

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Originally posted by Wingman66
If you just want to jaw politics I got a little time. You say 125 babies have been 'slaughtered'. How is that obama's, mine, yours, or bushes fault for that matter? Should'nt those deeds be laid at the feet of the people who did the 'slaughtering?'

Using that logic Wingman why don't we just alow murder to be legal. More than that what type of character does a man have to have to not only say abortion is legal but to openly promote it through planned parenthood. This is the exact same logic that allowed so many jews to die in the holocaust. The germans put their heads in the sand while holding their hand out for what the government could give them. WE ALL KNOW ABORTION IS WRONG SO LETS STOP TRYING TO JUSTIFY IT AND START TRYING TO STOP IT!!!

Posted by Wingman66 on 10-20-2012 05:37 PM:

I don't remember obama signing roe vs wade. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Posted by Doug Adams on 10-20-2012 05:40 PM:

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Originally posted by Wingman66
I don't remember obama signing roe vs wade. Correct me if I'm wrong.

He didn't sign it but he sure supports it and would have been proud to sign it if he could've. Obama went one step farther and voted for a bill that was far worse!!

Posted by trackdriver on 10-20-2012 05:45 PM:

Sorry there's a pic out there with yuor hero doing the same thing doug. Gotta go see some football,when i get back doug we'll debate if you wanna.

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Posted by Wingman66 on 10-20-2012 05:46 PM:

Yeah I'm aware of it, though I never had one. That is how I battle against it, by never having one. Murder I can tell you all about. Had one 2 miles from me Thursday. You can pass all the laws you want to. Laws have never prevented murder, abortion, speeding, or anything else. what a woman does with her body is between her and her God. has nothing to do with nobody else. Blame obama all you want if it makes you feel better. him, me, nor you will ever stop something that somebody else has determined in their head.

Posted by Wingman66 on 10-20-2012 05:48 PM:

PS... this ain't nazi germany. Its USA 2012. Or do you blame obama for WW1 also?

Posted by Doug Adams on 10-20-2012 05:49 PM:

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Originally posted by trackdriver
Sorry there's a pic out there with hero doing the same thing doug. Gotta go see some football,when i get back doug we'll debate if you wanna.

I'm willing to debate anytime trackdriver! You will need to quit skipping over the real topic and actually debate what has been said

Posted by Jonathan Scott on 10-20-2012 05:59 PM:

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Originally posted by Wingman66
Yeah I'm aware of it, though I never had one. That is how I battle against it, by never having one. Murder I can tell you all about. Had one 2 miles from me Thursday. You can pass all the laws you want to. Laws have never prevented murder, abortion, speeding, or anything else. what a woman does with her body is between her and her God. has nothing to do with nobody else. Blame obama all you want if it makes you feel better. him, me, nor you will ever stop something that somebody else has determined in their head.

You are correct in saying "what a woman does with her body is between her and her God"!!! Unfortantely for your argument: when there is a PREGNANT woman involved it is not just her body she shares it with a chid. If there is a little child in her body don't you think that little child should have a choice in whether he/she lives or dies.

Posted by trackdriver on 10-20-2012 05:59 PM:

What's the topic you wanna debate?

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Posted by Doug Adams on 10-20-2012 06:07 PM:

Well for starters I would like to hear your stance on abortion??

Posted by lil_joe on 10-20-2012 06:15 PM:

Abortion is murder.... And our wonderful president pushes for it to be funded by federal tax dollars. They're many means to prevent an unwanted child. And don't try to use the line of " its a woman's choice" with me. It is plain and simple murder. To make all of us fund it is bull&+/* but i know we will get another 4 years of this anyway.

Posted by Wingman66 on 10-20-2012 06:17 PM:

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You are correct in saying "what a woman does with her body is between her and her God"!!! Unfortantely for your argument: when there is a PREGNANT woman involved it is not just her body she shares it with a chid. If there is a little child in her body don't you think that little child should have a choice in whether he/she lives or dies.

Of course I do. As a former fetus, I disagree with abortion. If that baby would have lived to adulthood I bet they would have said yes I'd rather lived also. Nevertheless you are still missing the point. It is not the babies fault their mother had an abortion, nor is it obama's, mine, or yours. You think that man that got shot thursday wanted to get shot? If there is a law against murder, then why did he get murdered?? Being a republican, if thats what side you chose, you should be able to understand accountabilty. That is something a woman choses for whatever reason she wants. Nothing to do with me and I can not stop it.

I will tell you how to curb abortion though, but it would get deleted.

Posted by vernonsdream on 10-20-2012 06:18 PM:

So you're telling me that a fetus has more rights than a woman? We live in the land of the free. We have free will to make choices in how we live our lives. I wouldn't ever support abortion, but I'm not so ignorant and close minded that I think I can make that decision for others. Abortion is a woman's choice. Not some coonhunter who calls abortion "slaughtering babies".

Posted by Doug Adams on 10-20-2012 06:21 PM:

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Originally posted by vernonsdream
So you're telling me that a fetus has more rights than a woman? We live in the land of the free. We have free will to make choices in how we live our lives. I wouldn't ever support abortion, but I'm not so ignorant and close minded that I think I can make that decision for others. Abortion is a woman's choice. Not some coonhunter who calls abortion "slaughtering babies".

You say you wouldnt ever support abortion but you will vote for somebody who does?? Doesn't make much sense. You can try to spin it however you want but it is plain and simple the " slaughtering of Babies"!!

Posted by vernonsdream on 10-20-2012 06:21 PM:

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Originally posted by Wingman66
Of course I do. As a former fetus, I disagree with abortion. If that baby would have lived to adulthood I bet they would have said yes I'd rather lived also. Nevertheless you are still missing the point. It is not the babies fault their mother had an abortion, nor is it obama's, mine, or yours. You think that man that got shot thursday wanted to get shot? If there is a law against murder, then why did he get murdered?? Being a republican, if thats what side you chose, you should be able to understand accountabilty. That is something a woman choses for whatever reason she wants. Nothing to do with me and I can not stop it.

I will tell you how to curb abortion though, but it would get deleted.

Hey man, common sense doesn't fly around here! How dare you

Posted by BIGMOOSE on 10-20-2012 06:24 PM:

I wouldn't worry about debating with these guy's. I noticed what states they are in and Romney has those wrapped up. They will place there votes in hopes of Obama winning,but facts are he's going to lose in those states in a landslide. America has seen through Obama's retard scams and broken promises that's why he will not be elected a second time. One thing I would like to know is what makes someone want to vote for Obama? I know along with most of the people on here why he got voted in the first time. I just hope they got enough welfare money to stay drunk and high until the elction is over. lol

Posted by Wingman66 on 10-20-2012 06:30 PM:

Come on Mr. Adams. You know as well as anybody that the only person that can prevent 'slaughtering' babies, as you say, is the person doing the 'slaughtering.' Its not a political belief, its a personal human being belief. I only personally know of 1 girl who had an abortion and that was mid 1980's when she was 14. Her Mother made her have one. If you want to get political, then its *Reagan's fault.

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Posted by TomPurdy on 10-20-2012 06:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wingman66
Yeah I'm aware of it, though I never had one. That is how I battle against it, by never having one. Murder I can tell you all about. Had one 2 miles from me Thursday. You can pass all the laws you want to. Laws have never prevented murder, abortion, speeding, or anything else. what a woman does with her body is between her and her God. has nothing to do with nobody else. Blame obama all you want if it makes you feel better. him, me, nor you will ever stop something that somebody else has determined in their head.

Wingman are you trying to say laws are useless, and don't prevent anything. I am willing to bet you have been in a vehicle that has stopped at a RED light this week. You obeyed the law, and prevented who knows what kind of diaster!! Are you trying to say we should just allows people to drive through town as fast as they want. I don't believe you are that foolish!!! The tuth is laws have prevent countless murders, and would allow countless children to live!! You are right you can break laws anytime you want if you are willing to suffer the consequences. And there will always be a few people who will. However most people are smart enough to weight out that decision.

Posted by Wingman66 on 10-20-2012 06:35 PM:

Rep's, Dem's. 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen the other. Between 2 evils, grab the one with the shortest horns.

Posted by Doug Adams on 10-20-2012 06:36 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Wingman66
Come on Mr. Adams. You know as well as anybody that the only person that can prevent 'slaughtering' babies, as you say, is the person doing the 'slaughtering.' Its not a political belief, its a personal human being belief. I only personally know of 1 girl who had an abortion and that was mid 1980's when she was 14. her Mother made her had one. If you want to get political, then its Reagains fault.

I'm not saying it would stop completely but when it's perfectly legal it doesn't have any chance of stopping! As stated before if Murder was legal and the President stood behind it, every time people faced a problem where somebody stood in their way they would kill them and move on BECAUSE it was perfectly legal to do so, But since it's illegal Most don't take that route. If making abortion illegal would only save one life it would be worth it!!

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