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Some great reading about life and life situations. I have a daughter that worked her tail off during high school, she played basketball & softball and was good at both. She also exceled in the class room as well, 4.0 GPA. When it came time to graduate and start her college education, there were offers from 5 different colleges, as long as she wanted an atletic scholarship, as soon as she decided that those atletic scholarships were too bidding and controlling and wanted to attend on a academic scholarship, there was only one college offered her a scholarship, and it was a half. I wrote all of this to say our society as a whole is completly backwards!!!!!! Instead of helping the people with good values and a good understanding of what is needed in society, our schools choice to help someone that can bonus a ball, hit a ball, run the fastest or kick a ball, not the people that can be leaders of this country, states, coummunity's & families. I love to watch sports just as much as anyone, but (we including me) have our priorities wrong. We have allowed these things to go wrong in our country, state, community's & families. Our local government is just a corrurpt as our federal government.

Do you know why our senators & representatives don't care how much it cost for someone to get a college education????

Do you know why our senator & representatives don't care about the cost of health care????

How many questions can you post that you feel henders our senators & representatives from making good decesions for their constiluates??????


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Re: 47% What a joke

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Originally posted by ahinsch


Just saw this pic on facebook. Give me a break! Who would have thought you might have to work more than "less than 20 hours a week" to pay for college and gas in your car! If i was this kid's parents i would be ashamed! When i went to college i didn't feel the need to rely on my parents or the govt. I saw it as my investment and my debt worked 40hrs a week to pay rent, food, gas, student loans, electricity, and whatever was left beer, all while going to school full time. I will expect the same from my children.

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I just went to a home to work a on a wheelchair!!! i just seen my
tax dallars @ work!!! lol wow 5 "real" healthy people siiting around watching tv eating lays potato chips-- lmao--- i wonder
where they got the money for all that fine body art???


47% may be a low #

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WASHINGTON (AP) - Nearly 6 million Americans - significantly more than first estimated- will face a tax penalty under President Barack Obama's health overhaul for not getting insurance, congressional analysts said Wednesday. Most would be in the middle class.

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My 21 yo step daughter is a senior in college this year and pulling either 17 or 18 credits this semester (can't remember which). She busts her hump waiting tables all summer long and also as much as possible during the school year. She is paying for it all herself. She has had to take out student loans for what federal grants didn't cover (she got no grants this year). She hasn't asked for a penny from us through her whole college career. And her gpa is like 3.5 throughout college. Sometimes it's alot for her but she keeps her eyes on the prize and studies, works, and when she has time has fun in that order. I think as parents our job is to raise our kids as productive members of society: not whiners with a chip on there shoulder asking what the government can do for them. Unfortunately too many people just have there hand out and would rather whine about "not being equal" than to get off there butt's and make something of themselves!

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My 21 yo step daughter is a senior in college this year and pulling either 17 or 18 credits this semester (can't remember which). She busts her hump waiting tables all summer long and also as much as possible during the school year. She is paying for it all herself. She has had to take out student loans for what federal grants didn't cover (she got no grants this year). She hasn't asked for a penny from us through her whole college career. And her gpa is like 3.5 throughout college. Sometimes it's alot for her but she keeps her eyes on the prize and studies, works, and when she has time has fun in that order. I think as parents our job is to raise our kids as productive members of society: not whiners with a chip on there shoulder asking what the government can do for them. Unfortunately too many people just have there hand out and would rather whine about "not being equal" than to get off there butt's and make something of themselves!

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Originally posted by jessejmc1979
My 21 yo step daughter is a senior in college this year and pulling either 17 or 18 credits this semester (can't remember which). She busts her hump waiting tables all summer long and also as much as possible during the school year. She is paying for it all herself. She has had to take out student loans for what federal grants didn't cover (she got no grants this year). She hasn't asked for a penny from us through her whole college career. And her gpa is like 3.5 throughout college. Sometimes it's alot for her but she keeps her eyes on the prize and studies, works, and when she has time has fun in that order. I think as parents our job is to raise our kids as productive members of society: not whiners with a chip on there shoulder asking what the government can do for them. Unfortunately too many people just have there hand out and would rather whine about "not being equal" than to get off there butt's and make something of themselves!

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Colleges & Universities are highly overrated nowadays.For decades,all we did was try to impress our kids on getting an education.Education,education,education.Well,guess what?? What do you think the percentage of college graduates being able to find a job today?It ain't very high.A young man or woman is much better off learning a trade nowadays,I think.Only problem with that is-----our kids nowadays are so frickin' spoiled,that they are too lazy to even do that.
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i dont have a problem with educating but what % of dr. can
speak english and what do we produce?just take a drive around
campus and see.

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Have any of you tried hiring a young kid to do physical labor lately? I'd have better luck teaching a dog to work. The kids that pay their own way thru college will be far better off in "life's lessons" down the road. My parents gave us the option of getting a job or going to college. My older brother and I got jobs why my little brother went to school. I could name 10 kids in the local area doing nothing but sleeping til noon and partying all night. My dads philosophy why we were growing up was your going to work young cause I can't teach you to work when you're 25! Too many kids want to loathe thru life and think the worlds constantly taking a crap on them. There's always a job out there just a matter of how bad you want one.

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Rob, I agree, nothing wrong with learning a trade, college isn't for everyone and there are some great jobs in the trades.

but like you said, it's work, and bottom line, people don't want to actually work.

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Originally posted by Lone Pine JB
Rob, I agree, nothing wrong with learning a trade, college isn't for everyone and there are some great jobs in the trades.

but like you said, it's work, and bottom line, people don't want to actually work.

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when my wife was in college we had 2 kids and i was 20 yrs old. she had a part time job and i had a full time job. i was only making 10 an hr. she was 6 and change with about 6-12 hrs a weeks. she worked after class at a dollar store acroos for school just to make money for gas to go to school. we got foodstamps but that was all the help we got. we paid a babysitter and had a car payment. we lived in a crappy single wide, but we were happy as a pig in mud. life isnt easy and may never be for us but if you want something you will work and work hard. dont cry and whine for help. you gotta want to. i know everyone has problems, but complaining about it wont help it none. im 23 now and between me and my wife we make close to 70 a year. she makes more of course because she worked hard for it. you can go to school and work and have money if you have your priorities in line. just because you cant afford top of the line clothes, shoes, or cars and cellphones dont mean you cant afford school.

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Originally posted by CLJohnson
Just so we can have some numbers to work with:

Any Ten Meal Plan On-Camp $1,566.00
Bus Admin Course Fee $240.00
Engineering Course Fee $216.00
Facility Fee $160.00
Housing Learning Community Fee $50.00
I/S Undergraduate Maintenance $3,901.00
Library Fee $10.00
Non-Commuter Parking Tag $290.00
North Carrick Residence Hall $2,545.00
Prog & Serv Fee-Health $89.00
Prog & Svc Fee-Primary $255.00
Technology Fee $100.00
Transportation Fee $26.00
Undergraduate Study Abroad Fee $5.00


This is my first semester's bill, for those that say "well i went to college and payed for it myself" I would ask when did you go to college? College prices have risen by LARGE amounts over the last few years and don't appear to be dropping. For those of you with younger children, I will say that I had the same aspirations, and my thought process was probably the same "why would someone not go to college, work hard, get scholarships, it isnt that bad". What you quickly find out is you truly are a big fish in a small pond. I graduated 3rd in my class, from a high school rated nationally with a 4.1 GPA, taking AP courses, almost all Honors courses and college course work. I did community involved projects, volunteer fire dept. volunteering for fund raisers, coordinating special olympic events, and starting new clubs within the high school. My point here being there are currently 26,000 other people on this campus that did the exact same things and some did more, the full ride expectations for a major university should be low just because of this. As I said before I am paying roughly 8000 a year, 4000 a semester thanks to scholarships and Gov. aid. With tuition, parking, meals, etc. expected to grow that number will likely grow by the time I get my undergrad degree. I work 40 hours a week in the summer time in a steel factory making electrical boxes to help pay my way actively while going through so I don't get hit with huge loans to pay back (huge being in perspective with those who are paying out of state tuition, 40,000 a year) I work very little during school as I need to keep my grades up to get into grad school, I carry 15 hours of classes to attempt to graduate in 4 years even though the recommended amount for engineers is 12 which coincidentally, is the minimum allowed to be tagged as "full time". I don't think you should be handed anything and have worked to get where I am BUT I do believe that if we are going to cut funding we should look toward something that doesn't impact future generation quite as much, maybe institute a flat tax across the board? Maybe cut back on tax breaks? How about an outlandish idea, cut back on salary for our representatives.

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Originally posted by ahinsch
If your daughter's high school grades were good enough she could probably have gone to a community college for **** near free. You do that for two years then transfer to the state college, utilize whatever federal financial aid is available and the rest you can cover with low interest student loans that you don't have to make payments on until you aren't in school anymore. I doubt her grades were very good since she had someone like you calling people stupid and retarded teaching her.

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Originally posted by MTCoonHunter
I think I'm missing the point here... the kid is being bashed because he goes to school, works 20 hours a week, pays into social security and medicare... but he's lazy because he's working as opposed to taking out loans?

Or... is his not paying taxes to the government worse than taking free money from the government via financial aid? Fill out your FAFSA early and get that free money that MY taxes pay for!

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i dont see any problem with our taxes going to financial aid, to people who want an education. BUT, there should be certain guidelines the students have to follow. no missing class, excessive tardy, keeping grades up, tutoring if possible. im all for it. im starting saving funds for my children, when they graduate they will have enought money for a degree or a real good head start. if they drop out for any stupid reason then the saving account will be going to the other child. i had to drop out to help my single mother of 3 pay rent. i learned how work right off the bat. i was on a roofing crew at 16 in florida. an air conditioned class room learning something that would help me out the rest of my life sure sounds like a good idea now, lol. different strokes for different folks i suppose.

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You're gonna pay taxes someway somehow but then i guess that's why mitt want release 10 years of tax returns because he might be in that 47%. lol! Y'all got your marching order from fixed news so get to work and save mitt!

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Originally posted by Rip
You are missing the point becasue the kid is crying because someone told the truth. 47% pay no income tax.

Social Security and Medicare are not income taxes. If these are still solvent by the time he uses them he will likely get much more benifit than he ever paid in. They are supposedly "retirement" but he is bellyaching and crying like he is paying his "fair share" when in reality he paid nothing.

No he is being bashed because he feels like working a whole "less than 20 hours per week" is really reaching and getting it and his tone is that the taxpayers OWE him not to pay any taxes and he feels guilty and doesn't like the fact that someone brought up the point that some people earn money and don't contribute at all to the tax burden.

That's why I am for a flat tax. 10% is 10%.

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Originally posted by cooncrazy30
Well said! An hes prob going around telling people that romney goin to eliminate the medicare he doesnt fill like he should have to pay for! But hey he deserve a vote as a contributeing member of society! An i agree thats what america needs a flat tax!

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flat taxes for who

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