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Posted by cody jaster on 10-06-2012 06:30 PM:

What I liked about them is that they drove a track faster and harder than any other dog then and now. I also liked the fact that they would tree coon that the other 3 dogs in the cast were at the tree smelling around but not barking at all. I mostly liked the fact that when they treed (and it was quicker and much more accurat than the others) you could go to town shopping and come back whenever and they would still be there hammering away. I guess the most fun about those dogs were when I entered them on competition hunts and never lost a cast... Pretty good for old pleasure dogs.


Posted by R.lee prater on 10-07-2012 01:45 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by cody jaster
What I liked about them is that they drove a track faster and harder than any other dog then and now. I also liked the fact that they would tree coon that the other 3 dogs in the cast were at the tree smelling around but not barking at all. I mostly liked the fact that when they treed (and it was quicker and much more accurat than the others) you could go to town shopping and come back whenever and they would still be there hammering away. I guess the most fun about those dogs were when I entered them on competition hunts and never lost a cast... Pretty good for old pleasure dogs.


Posted by bob country jr on 10-07-2012 01:57 AM:

Never lost a cast thats priceless but i wouldnt expect you guys to post anything less.Cody what year was it you hunted with your first finley river dog.

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Posted by slobbermouth21 on 10-07-2012 02:00 AM:

I have a line bred bitch dog that is heavy on finely river I'm to young to know how the old time Finley dogs hunted but my dog want back a dog or follow th. Pack she likes her own space to do her own thing has a ok nose on her prolly would of had a better nose if she would of been Alittle trashy as a pup running deer through creek bottoms an such but she just was lucky enough to be close as I've seen to natural coon dog.

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Posted by bob country jr on 10-07-2012 02:07 AM:

I have seen several of them that would do there own thing and not much on packing but they are like any line of dogs there are exceptions.

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Posted by slobbermouth21 on 10-07-2012 02:19 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bob country jr
I have seen several of them that would do there own thing and not much on packing but they are like any line of dogs there are exceptions.
I'm with you on that most of the old guys are dead now that tought me the little that I do know they always prized the bitch more then the stud but now it seems its all about the stud an not really the bitch but then they wonder why the pups from this so called good blood want hunt etc.

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Posted by HistoryNutt on 10-07-2012 02:28 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bob country jr
I have hunted with alot of the old finley river myself did not care for the coarse hair,flag tails or there track speed to me they where more pleasure dogs which there is nothing wrong with that if that is what you like.




quote:
Originally posted by bob country jr
Never lost a cast thats priceless but i wouldnt expect you guys to post anything less.Cody what year was it you hunted with your first finley river dog.


Hey Jr. When did you hunt with a lot of the old Finley River hounds? The coarse hair or heavy coat is part of it for a lot of the strain not all but a lot but guess what? Guess which type of coat can take a big briar patch the best or a cold icy section of water. Now when you are out Coon Hunting I think most will agree that it is more pleasurable when you are looking at eyes and fur in the tree instead of just looking at leaves and tree bark.

Back in the day (lol) when people had to hunt 3 or 4 hours this type of hound would rise to the top most of the time because they were coon hounds that could tree a rough coon that many dogs just couldn't do it. I don't know which hounds or how many you hunted with that didn't have good track speed but as the rule that isn't the case. At least with the hounds I have hunted with.

Jr. Don't you think it is possible that Cody may have had a hound or two that he never lost a cast with? So I don't understand your comment of that being priceless or you wouldn't expect you guys to post anything less. That is an offensive statement don't you think? After all Cody was just sharing his experience with them.

So Jr. which strain of hounds floats your boat?

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Posted by cody jaster on 10-07-2012 02:39 AM:

Bob country jr. ... I would have to say the first ones I hunted with we're in the late 70's. I don't remember too much about them... Ran a lot of off game... But I was coon hunting. Got serious about it in the late 80's and these dogs were out of Finley River Dan, mainly. The other line we had was out of Kentucky River Strick. ( also Finley River). These dogs did in fact have long hair and flag tails. They were leggy dogs and thin built with deep chest. 90% of them were lemon headed dogs with a lot of white on them. Just kidding on the never lost a cast statement, however, I didn't loose many. At the tx state hunt with one dog he came in 5 th overall. I only hunted one night and they took both nights scores. He treed 3 coon and one of those the other dogs didn't even know was up the tree. Back then the hints were larger and at that time there was 196 dogs entered. Another memorable time was I had two dogs entered in a hunt... Half brother and sister. There was 74 dogs in that hunt and my dogs won first and second that night. There were others but those were my favs. Not too shabby for pleasure dogs.


Posted by bob country jr on 10-07-2012 02:40 AM:

Don to be honest with you at the moment not real impressed with to many of them these days as far as floating the boat.

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Well i guess the first ones i hunted with would of been in the early 70s.
And i see you agree they are cold nosed as for the rough hair i have seen slick haired dogs that could take the element just fine i guees it comes down to heart and drive.
Priceless means i wouldnt expect them to post anything less as they seem to think there perfect. Do i believe it NO unless it was just a couple cast and it was just a simple question about when he hunted his first f.r.dog.Lets not blow smoke up each others butt there are no perfect lines today or then myself think dogs then tend to have been more trashy as well.I do enjoy your website though.

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Posted by bob country jr on 10-07-2012 02:44 AM:

Cody now thats a post i can agree with.

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Posted by cody jaster on 10-07-2012 02:51 AM:

Personally, I don't think much of the so called Finley River dogs people have today. That are so far removed from Cheif, Dan,spot and others people ate hunting the watered down version. There is a guy I talked to the other day Matt Kenny I think his name was, really had some old blood. Extrey rare and hard to find. I wish him luck!!! Seems like today most dogs are bred about the same out there. Sackett and Harry or variations of them.


Posted by bob country jr on 10-07-2012 02:59 AM:

Watered down is correct thats why i dont understand anyone claiming to have old blood,as for junior thats a whole different subject not impressed.

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Posted by Matt McKinney on 10-07-2012 04:03 AM:

Thanks Cody. I appreciate that. I'm sitting him up for about a week.


quote:
Originally posted by cody jaster
Personally, I don't think much of the so called Finley River dogs people have today. That are so far removed from Cheif, Dan,spot and others people ate hunting the watered down version. There is a guy I talked to the other day Matt Kenny I think his name was, really had some old blood. Extrey rare and hard to find. I wish him luck!!! Seems like today most dogs are bred about the same out there. Sackett and Harry or variations of them.


Posted by Robert Kravik on 10-07-2012 02:42 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt McKinney
Thanks Cody. I appreciate that. I'm sitting him up for about a week.



Matt, FR Slick is a good looking dog. Can't believe your selling him. I would keep him and give him abit more time(to get it right).


Posted by Matt McKinney on 10-07-2012 03:30 PM:

I will probably put a season on him. He makes me mad sometimes but they all do LOL. Thanks for the compliment.

quote:
Originally posted by Robert Kravik
Matt, FR Slick is a good looking dog. Can't believe your selling him. I would keep him and give him abit more time(to get it right).


Posted by barrelmaker on 10-07-2012 04:06 PM:

old finley river

Don:

As you know, I bought Finley River Pete from John Monroe when he was coming 8 years old, kept him until he was hit by a car while running a coon at 14. He had longer hair and sort of a flag tail, people used to ask me why I was hunting that old shepard in the hunts, until they went to the woods with him. He was the first dog I'd ever seen that would run a track and tree it that the other dogs in a cast couldn't run and wouldn't tree on. I think John will tell you today he was the best coondog he ever followed.

As for the fella saying he didn't lose a cast, I can say I owned one and a lot of old timers in kentucky will vouch for me on this. I went up to Maryland and bought a dog from Mr. Donald Warfield of Mount Airey from the cross of Pete and Duvall's Lone Pine Lady,the origin of today's Lone Pine hounds. Sport was 4 when I bought him and had never been in a competition hunt, he was a first strike dog but tight after he struck and would be alone at least 90% of the time. I took him from nothing to Grand Nite Champion with 2 firsts, a second at National English days and 5 straight Nite Champion hunts. Back then we hunted the Grand Nites and he was never beaten in a cast and most of the time was high scoring dog of the hunt.

In the ACHA World Hunt, I think 1972, he was the high scoring dog going into the top twenty, about 500 dogs entered. The night we hunted the top twenty he was eaten up on two trees by a Highly Touted English dog before the judges scratched the dog, I won the cast anyway. The next morning when I went to feed him his neck was swollen so bad he could hardly raise his head, took him to a local vet at his home but ending up having to withdraw the dog from the hunt.

After this fiasco I was so upset with competition hunting that I quit completely until 2004. I sold Finley River Sport in 1973 for $3000 which was a heck of a price at that time, he wasn't the complete coon dog his daddy was but was the best competition dog I have ever been to the woods with, period.

Tom Humphrey


Posted by Matt McKinney on 10-07-2012 04:15 PM:

Re: old finley river

My pup has sport in his ped. He sounds like he was a nice one.

quote:
Originally posted by barrelmaker
Don:

As you know, I bought Finley River Pete from John Monroe when he was coming 8 years old, kept him until he was hit by a car while running a coon at 14. He had longer hair and sort of a flag tail, people used to ask me why I was hunting that old shepard in the hunts, until they went to the woods with him. He was the first dog I'd ever seen that would run a track and tree it that the other dogs in a cast couldn't run and wouldn't tree on. I think John will tell you today he was the best coondog he ever followed.

As for the fella saying he didn't lose a cast, I can say I owned one and a lot of old timers in kentucky will vouch for me on this. I went up to Maryland and bought a dog from Mr. Donald Warfield of Mount Airey from the cross of Pete and Duvall's Lone Pine Lady,the origin of today's Lone Pine hounds. Sport was 4 when I bought him and had never been in a competition hunt, he was a first strike dog but tight after he struck and would be alone at least 90% of the time. I took him from nothing to Grand Nite Champion with 2 firsts, a second at National English days and 5 straight Nite Champion hunts. Back then we hunted the Grand Nites and he was never beaten in a cast and most of the time was high scoring dog of the hunt.

In the ACHA World Hunt, I think 1972, he was the high scoring dog going into the top twenty, about 500 dogs entered. The night we hunted the top twenty he was eaten up on two trees by a Highly Touted English dog before the judges scratched the dog, I won the cast anyway. The next morning when I went to feed him his neck was swollen so bad he could hardly raise his head, took him to a local vet at his home but ending up having to withdraw the dog from the hunt.

After this fiasco I was so upset with competition hunting that I quit completely until 2004. I sold Finley River Sport in 1973 for $3000 which was a heck of a price at that time, he wasn't the complete coon dog his daddy was but was the best competition dog I have ever been to the woods with, period.

Tom Humphrey


Posted by Robert Kravik on 10-07-2012 05:07 PM:

Re: old finley river

R.lee prater, does FR Buddy and your females have long hair. Like the men in the previous posts describe.



quote:
Originally posted by barrelmaker
Don:

As you know, I bought Finley River Pete from John Monroe when he was coming 8 years old, kept him until he was hit by a car while running a coon at 14. He had longer hair and sort of a flag tail, people used to ask me why I was hunting that old shepard in the hunts, until they went to the woods with him. He was the first dog I'd ever seen that would run a track and tree it that the other dogs in a cast couldn't run and wouldn't tree on. I think John will tell you today he was the best coondog he ever followed.

As for the fella saying he didn't lose a cast, I can say I owned one and a lot of old timers in kentucky will vouch for me on this. I went up to Maryland and bought a dog from Mr. Donald Warfield of Mount Airey from the cross of Pete and Duvall's Lone Pine Lady,the origin of today's Lone Pine hounds. Sport was 4 when I bought him and had never been in a competition hunt, he was a first strike dog but tight after he struck and would be alone at least 90% of the time. I took him from nothing to Grand Nite Champion with 2 firsts, a second at National English days and 5 straight Nite Champion hunts. Back then we hunted the Grand Nites and he was never beaten in a cast and most of the time was high scoring dog of the hunt.

In the ACHA World Hunt, I think 1972, he was the high scoring dog going into the top twenty, about 500 dogs entered. The night we hunted the top twenty he was eaten up on two trees by a Highly Touted English dog before the judges scratched the dog, I won the cast anyway. The next morning when I went to feed him his neck was swollen so bad he could hardly raise his head, took him to a local vet at his home but ending up having to withdraw the dog from the hunt.

After this fiasco I was so upset with competition hunting that I quit completely until 2004. I sold Finley River Sport in 1973 for $3000 which was a heck of a price at that time, he wasn't the complete coon dog his daddy was but was the best competition dog I have ever been to the woods with, period.

Tom Humphrey


Posted by R.lee prater on 10-08-2012 12:14 PM:

Re: Re: old finley river

quote:
Originally posted by Robert Kravik
R.lee prater, does FR Buddy and your females have long hair. Like the men in the previous posts describe.
Buddy doesnt but some of my females do. I have tried to keep the old blood as close as possible. Until 2 yrs ago i raised only what i wanted when i needed it for myself. at times i may have a litter that look like 3 different type dogs.


Posted by Robert Kravik on 10-08-2012 02:00 PM:

Re: Re: Re: old finley river

quote:
Originally posted by R.lee prater
Buddy doesnt but some of my females do. I have tried to keep the old blood as close as possible. Until 2 yrs ago i raised only what i wanted when i needed it for myself. at times i may have a litter that look like 3 different type dogs.


You have done a fine job of keeping the bloodline close. I was just asking out curiousity about his coat. Longhair or shorthair its all same to me. As long as the dog covered in it is a good one. Thanks


Posted by R.lee prater on 10-08-2012 02:20 PM:

Re: old finley river

quote:
Originally posted by barrelmaker
Don:

As you know, I bought Finley River Pete from John Monroe when he was coming 8 years old, kept him until he was hit by a car while running a coon at 14. He had longer hair and sort of a flag tail, people used to ask me why I was hunting that old shepard in the hunts, until they went to the woods with him. He was the first dog I'd ever seen that would run a track and tree it that the other dogs in a cast couldn't run and wouldn't tree on. I think John will tell you today he was the best coondog he ever followed.

As for the fella saying he didn't lose a cast, I can say I owned one and a lot of old timers in kentucky will vouch for me on this. I went up to Maryland and bought a dog from Mr. Donald Warfield of Mount Airey from the cross of Pete and Duvall's Lone Pine Lady,the origin of today's Lone Pine hounds. Sport was 4 when I bought him and had never been in a competition hunt, he was a first strike dog but tight after he struck and would be alone at least 90% of the time. I took him from nothing to Grand Nite Champion with 2 firsts, a second at National English days and 5 straight Nite Champion hunts. Back then we hunted the Grand Nites and he was never beaten in a cast and most of the time was high scoring dog of the hunt.

In the ACHA World Hunt, I think 1972, he was the high scoring dog going into the top twenty, about 500 dogs entered. The night we hunted the top twenty he was eaten up on two trees by a Highly Touted English dog before the judges scratched the dog, I won the cast anyway. The next morning when I went to feed him his neck was swollen so bad he could hardly raise his head, took him to a local vet at his home but ending up having to withdraw the dog from the hunt.

After this fiasco I was so upset with competition hunting that I quit completely until 2004. I sold Finley River Sport in 1973 for $3000 which was a heck of a price at that time, he wasn't the complete coon dog his daddy was but was the best competition dog I have ever been to the woods with, period.

Tom Humphrey

THANKS for shareing MR. TOM,


Posted by HistoryNutt on 10-10-2012 03:05 PM:

Re: old finley river

quote:
Originally posted by barrelmaker
Don:

As you know, I bought Finley River Pete from John Monroe when he was coming 8 years old, kept him until he was hit by a car while running a coon at 14. He had longer hair and sort of a flag tail, people used to ask me why I was hunting that old shepard in the hunts, until they went to the woods with him. He was the first dog I'd ever seen that would run a track and tree it that the other dogs in a cast couldn't run and wouldn't tree on. I think John will tell you today he was the best coondog he ever followed.

As for the fella saying he didn't lose a cast, I can say I owned one and a lot of old timers in kentucky will vouch for me on this. I went up to Maryland and bought a dog from Mr. Donald Warfield of Mount Airey from the cross of Pete and Duvall's Lone Pine Lady,the origin of today's Lone Pine hounds. Sport was 4 when I bought him and had never been in a competition hunt, he was a first strike dog but tight after he struck and would be alone at least 90% of the time. I took him from nothing to Grand Nite Champion with 2 firsts, a second at National English days and 5 straight Nite Champion hunts. Back then we hunted the Grand Nites and he was never beaten in a cast and most of the time was high scoring dog of the hunt.

In the ACHA World Hunt, I think 1972, he was the high scoring dog going into the top twenty, about 500 dogs entered. The night we hunted the top twenty he was eaten up on two trees by a Highly Touted English dog before the judges scratched the dog, I won the cast anyway. The next morning when I went to feed him his neck was swollen so bad he could hardly raise his head, took him to a local vet at his home but ending up having to withdraw the dog from the hunt.

After this fiasco I was so upset with competition hunting that I quit completely until 2004. I sold Finley River Sport in 1973 for $3000 which was a heck of a price at that time, he wasn't the complete coon dog his daddy was but was the best competition dog I have ever been to the woods with, period.

Tom Humphrey










Grand Nite Ch. Finley River Pete

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Posted by slobbermouth21 on 10-10-2012 03:31 PM:

Re: Re: old finley river

quote:
Originally posted by HistoryNutt






Grand Nite Ch. Finley River Pete

that's a man that knew his stuff

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Posted by R.lee prater on 10-16-2012 01:26 AM:

MR JOHN

I got to hunt with Mr John Monroe friday night at the acha world and that was something i will never forget.


Posted by R.lee prater on 10-25-2012 01:44 PM:

Re: MR JOHN

quote:
Originally posted by R.lee prater
I got to hunt with Mr John Monroe friday night at the acha world and that was something i will never forget.


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