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Posted by Gibbo on 09-18-2012 09:15 PM:

I know several people who have taxes taken out of their check weekly then file at the end of the year and get more money back than they paid in. These people are not paying taxes. If you get back more than what you pay in that is not a refund, that is welfare!!!!

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-18-2012 09:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Boondok
I hate to even add to these crazy posts with you all going at it with eachother......But, none of you can actually/honestly say either candidate is for the middle class. There isn't any politicians up in higher positions that really represent us. I work, hunt, and spend money in my community. My wife works and also spends money in our community. We have 2 kids and DEFINATELY pay taxes! I don't forsee any decent people having a run for President, it takes too much money, too many lies, too many scandals, and too many favors. We need to get involved in local government and start there, instead of fighting eachother on here! We all basically want the same thing....to work and provide for our families. If not, you need to. Niether Romney or Obama will help us do that..........

-Bob Kwandrans Jr



Well thats all great and I can't disagree. However ONE WILL WIN so ask yourself.

1) what do you really know about Romney? He was a very successful business man who helped start MANY companies from the ground up. Sure some went downhill but like he said not everything goes right when starting big businesses.

2) what do you know about Obama? Well he is a bold faced liar. Am I talking out my azz? How about YOU DO YOURSELF AND YOUR COUNTRY A FAVOR AND ACTUALLY DO A LITTLE RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF.

He has what 40% American in him? I sure don't want a MUSLIM running for President.

So make the choice because if he gets elected for another 4 years he will be able to do pretty much whatever he wants in the white house.

This video explains EVERYTHING about obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZb1...be_gdata_player

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Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-18-2012 09:58 PM:

I find it funny when people say Obama is a Muslim.Is he? I dont know..What if he is? Romney is a Mormon. Its a religion, nothing more. Same as being a Christian, an Atheist or a Baptist. I dont even like Obama, but what does his religion have to do with anything. Muhammed Ali is a Muslim, do you hate him too because of it? Do you hate Mitt Romney because he is a Mormon and believes that when they die that they will become like God, have their own planet and will populate the planet with "spirit babies and Their wife will be with them and will be eternally pregnant and will give birth to all of the spirit babies



quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Well thats all great and I can't disagree. However ONE WILL WIN so ask yourself.

1) what do you really know about Romney? He was a very successful business man who helped start MANY companies from the ground up. Sure some went downhill but like he said not everything goes right when starting big businesses.

2) what do you know about Obama? Well he is a bold faced liar. Am I talking out my azz? How about YOU DO YOURSELF AND YOUR COUNTRY A FAVOR AND ACTUALLY DO A LITTLE RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF.

He has what 40% American in him? I sure don't want a MUSLIM running for President.

So make the choice because if he gets elected for another 4 years he will be able to do pretty much whatever he wants in the white house.

This video explains EVERYTHING about obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZb1...be_gdata_player


Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-18-2012 10:14 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt McKinney
I find it funny when people say Obama is a Muslim.Is he? I dont know..What if he is? Romney is a Mormon. Its a religion, nothing more. Same as being a Christian, an Atheist or a Baptist. I dont even like Obama, but what does his religion have to do with anything. Muhammed Ali is a Muslim, do you hate him too because of it? Do you hate Mitt Romney because he is a Mormon and believes that when they die that they will become like God, have their own planet and will populate the planet with "spirit babies and Their wife will be with them and will be eternally pregnant and will give birth to all of the spirit babies


Did Mormons blow up the world trade center or did Muslims?

Did Romney start his campaign in the living room of a known terrorist or did obama?

Does Romney attend a church where his Preacher uses the TERM GOD **** AMERICA or does obama?

Was Romney raised and mentored by Islamic radicals or was obama?

Yea Matt
I'm pretty POSITIVE a Mormon president is the LEAST of out worries.

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-18-2012 10:22 PM:



I hope you guys are ready for obama to fulfill his daddy's dreams and ruin America.

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Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-18-2012 10:26 PM:

Muslim Extremist blew up the world trade center..Big Difference
I dont agree with the church and jeremiah wright.
I believe Obama is raised by his mother, who is an athiest not islamic radicals. Do you have anything to show he was raised by islamic radicals?
Do you even have anything showing he is a Muslim?

I think you have been reading too many email Forwards..Does my grandma have you on her contact list? If so, you probably been reading the same ones she sends to me. LOL

To hear some people tell it, you would think Obama is part of the taliban. And Im not saying you should be worried about Mitt being a Mormon, Im simply saying its just a religion just like any other religion. If you dont know the difference between a Muslim, and a Muslim Extremist, then thats on you. Muslims dont even believe in war, I.E Ali refusing to go to Vietnam and getting stripped of the title. That being said. Provide me with legitament info that backs up your claims of Muslims, and American hating.


quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
Did Mormons blow up the world trade center or did Muslims?

Did Romney start his campaign in the living room of a known terrorist or did obama?

Does Romney attend a church where his Preacher uses the TERM GOD **** AMERICA or does obama?

Was Romney raised and mentored by Islamic radicals or was obama?

Yea Matt
I'm pretty POSITIVE a Mormon president is the LEAST of out worries.


Posted by garminguru on 09-18-2012 10:29 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by The Seeker
My tax preparer adds my SS and my what wife gets (1/2 of what I get )and adds this to my pension and then does my deductions (medical etc.) and I pay taxes on the remainder so I pay taxes on my SS because it's added into my total income. Now you tell me if I pay on my SS or not?


Earlier you said you and your wife lived off of your SS and your pension. There was no mention of any income for your wife. Although I figured she had SS security unless you married a much younger woman.
Your pension earnings is what is causing you to pay taxes, not your SS. I am sure your pension is substantial to put you in a tax requirement.


Posted by garminguru on 09-18-2012 10:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Gibbo
I know several people who have taxes taken out of their check weekly then file at the end of the year and get more money back than they paid in. These people are not paying taxes. If you get back more than what you pay in that is not a refund, that is welfare!!!!


This is mostly the 47%. I know them too!!!


Posted by vernonsdream on 09-18-2012 10:50 PM:

Hey hoosierman you realize there have been many terrorist attacks by Christians, right? What does that picture of Obama and his dad prove? You might want to leave politics to grown men and worry about shocking your dogs off a track. (lol)


Posted by GA DAWG on 09-18-2012 11:07 PM:

Here's what I think. I have no use for Obama. I also have no use for anybody that supports him. That's just.me though. Call me a hater or whatever. I have pretty thick skin. I've not met a single person that voted for him first time that I figure I could spend 2 days around without cussing them or having to fight em. Our minds don't think a like. Ain't no way around it.

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Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-18-2012 11:16 PM:

I have no use for either candidate, they are both crooked as the day is long, and lie more than my buddies dog....I just think its funny people after 4 yrs still believe the same old BS someone told you to believe

Muslim
Terrorist
Dont put heart over hand during Pledge of Allegance
Wasnt born here
No birth certificate
Got sworn in with the Koran
Dont wear american flag pin on suit
The list goes on

Time to get some new ammunition dont you think?

He is still the President, and I was taught to respect the man in office, even if I dont like him.


quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
Here's what I think. I have no use for Obama. I also have no use for anybody that supports him. That's just.me though. Call me a hater or whatever. I have pretty thick skin. I've not met a single person that voted for him first time that I figure I could spend 2 days around without cussing them or having to fight em. Our minds don't think a like. Ain't no way around it.


Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-18-2012 11:19 PM:

http://www.ssa.gov/planners/taxes.htm


Posted by trackdriver on 09-18-2012 11:43 PM:

Obama/Biden 2012!!! They come up with all kinds of b.s but why do they hate this man so much?

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Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-18-2012 11:49 PM:

No Prob


quote:
Originally posted by The Seeker
Thanks, Matt for the web page. At $45,000 total income for the year I would get taxed on 85% of our SS.


Posted by GA DAWG on 09-18-2012 11:54 PM:

Respect lmao! That ain't happening. They bomb our embassy's . He blames a internet video. Don't guess it being 9-11 had anything to do with it. He's a dumb dumb. How does stuff like that get swept under the rug? He's the worst president in american history!! If daffy the duck was running against him Id vote for daffy. Hoosier Im with you on this one.

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Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-19-2012 12:04 AM:

Im not telling you to respect him, or even saying you should. Im saying what I was taught. Nothing more, nothing less. I dont care if you vote for Daffy Duck, or Sylvestor the Cat...And actually according to the polls and approval ratings, I think George W actually wins the title of worst president in American History. Thats what the American people say anyways.


QUOTE]Originally posted by GA DAWG
Respect lmao! That ain't happening. They bomb our embassy's . He blames a internet video. Don't guess it being 9-11 had anything to do with it. He's a dumb dumb. How does stuff like that get swept under the rug? He's the worst president in american history!! If daffy the duck was running against him Id vote for daffy. Hoosier Im with you on this one. [/QUOTE]


Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-19-2012 12:05 AM:

One of his blatant lies was this.

OBAMA SAID MORE TIMES THEN I CAN COUNT THAT THE HEALTH CARE ISSUE WOULD BE PUBLIC AT ALL TIMES SO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD KNOW WHATS GOING ON.

AND HERE'S WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. EVERYTHING WAS TOTALLY PRIVATE AND THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION ACTUALLY STOPPED ANY AND ALL MEDIA FROM ANY ACESS WHATSOEVER.

So what else do you think in the next 4 years he will shove down out throats?

Think this health care bill was great? Well we will see how you like it when your coverage your company provides gets DROPPED and your insurance goes way up.

Yea free healthcare alright. Free to the government bums and illegals.

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Posted by garminguru on 09-19-2012 12:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by The Seeker
Thanks, Matt for the web page. At $45,000 total income for the year I would get taxed on 85% of our SS.


Yes, Matt cleared that up. Do you understand that I am saying that your pension must be substantial for you to pay income tax on your SS?
But for the pension, you most likely would not pay any tax. I never said you did not pay tax! I am saying if you have SS only, it is unlikely you would pay any tax.
I think we agree but we are looking at it differently.


Posted by chuck west on 09-19-2012 12:23 AM:

Hoosier ,Why did you delete your last post ?? I read down through it, it was contradicting everything your posting .. Either the man is a Muslim or Not .


Posted by Jackson87 on 09-19-2012 12:32 AM:

Obama hates america and I hate him.Only reason he got voted in in the first place is over half of america is free loadin bums just lookin for a handout.By the way i pay 750 a month for health insurance and it makes me crazy mad everytime i think about it.So much for helpin the workin man.I will vote for ROMNEY.


Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 09-19-2012 12:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by chuck west
Hoosier ,Why did you delete your last post ?? I read down through it, it was contradicting everything your posting .. Either the man is a Muslim or Not .
At this point I could care less what he is. He is a cancer and he WILL bring America to its knees. You know Barack Obama Srs goal.

How about you do a little research into obamas half brother, George obama. See how big brother 5akes good care of one of his own.

How about looking into his aunt that makes 2 dollars a day in a Kenyan slum?

bama says we need to be OUR BROTHERS KEEPER. He has said this many times while his own family is barely getting by.

What a role model.

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Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-19-2012 12:40 AM:

Half of America is free loading bums. Then in the same breath you complain about having to pay high cost for insurance and how you don't get any help. How does that make sense. Are you sure you don't hate America. Judging by your post you don't think very highly of Americans.

quote:
Originally posted by Jackson87
Obama hates america d I hate him.Only reason he got voted in in the first place is over half of america is free loadin bums just lookin for a handout.By the way i pay 750 a month for health insurance and it makes me crazy mad eveirytime i think about it.So much for helpin the workin man.I will vote for ROMNEY.


Posted by groworg1 on 09-19-2012 12:42 AM:

jackson87 i'm sure when obama care kicks in 2014 and you get a big tax credit for buying your own insurance you'll hate him then too!


Posted by Matt McKinney on 09-19-2012 12:42 AM:

Wow. If he was helping them out you would be complaining that he is only taking care of his own and not us. Give me a break.

I guess its also easier to say you don't care rather than actually posting facts to back up your baseless claims.



quote:
Originally posted by Hoosier Man1
At this point I could care less what he is. He is a cancer and he WILL bring America to its knees. You know Barack Obama Srs goal.

How about you do a little research into obamas half brother, George obama. See how big brother 5akes good care of one of his own.

How about looking into his aunt that makes 2 dollars a day in a Kenyan slum?

bama says we need to be OUR BROTHERS KEEPER. He has said this many times while his own family is barely getting by.

What a role model.


Posted by GA DAWG on 09-19-2012 01:25 AM:

Still bringing up bush lmao!! How bout naming ONE thing obamy has accomplished that's helped anybody anyway. Working people wise??? Just one thing. Not something that's supposed to happen. Something that has!!

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