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Posted by bigtimberkennel on 09-11-2012 06:41 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Sandi
I would like to see manditory tattooing of all pups in order to register that would trace directly to owner, end of problem

There you go


Posted by Buckshot on 09-11-2012 07:01 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Majestic Tree H
Unless Someone can show a Local Paper about This Issue >>>
Maybe there was something left behind ...
But after doing Alot of Searches !!

I'm Calling this BS ..



All I saw mentioned about it was in the comment section on the local newspaper site: (click the VIEW COMMENTS)

http://www.pal-item.com/apps/pbcs.d...D=2012308290021

I couldn't find any article about it either.


Posted by Jim Hill on 09-11-2012 07:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Majestic Tree H
This is the Only one that I found so Far and It was on Facebook
Quote From "Animal Care Alliance" Richmond Ind.

"Once again it is time for the Autumn Oaks Coonhound event. As someone that has been involved in animal rescue in this area for almost 20 years, I am less than enamored with this gathering. Before the last camper leaves the fairgrounds, those of us that care for the lost and abandoned animals of this community will begin to get calls about dogs that have been left behind. Dogs are taken out on nigh
t hunts and after chasing down terrified raccoons, the dogs that fail to return are often left behind, “poor performers” in the hunt. Those dogs soon begin to show up at farms and homes, frightened and hungry. Many will not survive, victims of automobiles, disease, starvation.
Hunters should, at the very least, be required to leave with as many dogs as they arrived with. A substantial donation to the groups in the area that care for their abandoned dogs might also help. Not all events that include dogs and people are happy events for the animals."

Yhis makes us coon hunters look awsome !!!!!

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Posted by old ben on 09-11-2012 07:54 PM:

one of m showed up at my house but it cost me 300.00 lol

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Posted by dustin15 on 09-11-2012 10:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Todd K / UKC


I was also not aware that the Wayne Co CHA was patrolling the grounds 24/7 monitoring dogs. That's great but we should probably get together on that somewhat. UKC also has volunteers that we coordinate to do the same thing.



A year or two ago someone from ukc asked dick warvel about getting someone to check on dogs being taken care of and he always goes around to be sure dogs have water.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 09-11-2012 10:35 PM:

How many you see left this yr?

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Posted by Randy Howard on 09-11-2012 10:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dustin15
A year or two ago someone from ukc asked dick warvel about getting someone to check on dogs being taken care of and he always goes around to be sure dogs have water.

Owners need to take care of their own hounds or leave em at home! And as far as pups and dogs left behind, if caught Barr Em for 5 to 10 years. jmo

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Posted by twillman on 09-11-2012 11:03 PM:

GA DAWG

I WAS UP AT OAKS THIS YEAR DOGS EVERY WHERE A LOT DOG JOCKEYS EVERY WHERE A LOT DOGS LOOKED STARVE TO DEATH THEY NEED TO HIRE SOME ONE TO GO AROUND AND CHECK ON THE DOGS IF THEY LOOK BAD THEY NEED TO FINE THEM AND I WOULD BET THE STARVATION WOULD STOP PLUS THEY WOULD STOP LEAVING THE ONES THEY DONT WANT BEHIND TO DIE


Posted by jack haughton on 09-11-2012 11:05 PM:

Leaving pups at AO

Another instance of leaving pups . At the morel we were staying , Sunday morn I look out and see a crate of 4puppies behind Cracker Barrel ,no water some food and not a soul around,I get the manager from Cracker Barrel and we proceed to check out the puppies and she goes to get water then from over at the motel this woman and 2 children wander over and ask if we want them and she say that they brought 9 and sold 5 so these were left over's. So with the publicity now happening she get her husband? and the load them up.(from VA.)I do hope they did not dump them on the way Home. Some people do not deserve pets or children.IMO.

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Posted by trackntreeman on 09-11-2012 11:25 PM:

So what was the number of hounds left ? No one has a number ?

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Posted by Dirtdevil on 09-12-2012 01:39 AM:

Those big hunts surely bring in enough money to the city and it's businesses to cover the cost of euthanizing a few extra dogs along with the ump-teen in the pound from their own locals ....

... folks can never bring up an issue with blowing it out of proportion to make them look more right than they really are.


... you come across abandoned dogs , well ... that aint a coonhunter thing .. that's just a sorry thing that all groups of dog owners do ...

.. don't really matter who or why it's left , and the dog getting put down or starving don't know it's a coonhound or care why he was left ....

he's gonna end up " humanely euthanized" by those caring souls that think they are better than everyone else ... well , ask those shelter dogs how glad they are to have been rescued and humanely put down ....


Posted by twillman on 09-12-2012 01:59 AM:

DIRT DEVIL

I AGREE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT KNOW ONE SHOULD LEAVE ANY ANIMALS BEHIND A LOT STATES CHARGE PEOPLE WITH ANIMAL CRUELTY EVERY STATE HAS LAWS FOR CRUELTY TO ANIMALS


Posted by Todd K / UKC on 09-12-2012 02:04 PM:

Re: GA DAWG

quote:
Originally posted by twillman
I WAS UP AT OAKS THIS YEAR DOGS EVERY WHERE A LOT DOG JOCKEYS EVERY WHERE A LOT DOGS LOOKED STARVE TO DEATH THEY NEED TO HIRE SOME ONE TO GO AROUND AND CHECK ON THE DOGS IF THEY LOOK BAD THEY NEED TO FINE THEM AND I WOULD BET THE STARVATION WOULD STOP PLUS THEY WOULD STOP LEAVING THE ONES THEY DONT WANT BEHIND TO DIE


See....this is where the difference of opinions comes in. I'm not saying I couldn't have missed one (some) but I drove the whole grounds more than a few times and I did not see one of the typical problem dog traders and I did not see "lots of dogs that looked starved to death".

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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 09-12-2012 03:13 PM:

Re: Re: GA DAWG

quote:
Originally posted by Todd K / UKC
See....this is where the difference of opinions comes in. I'm not saying I couldn't have missed one (some) but I drove the whole grounds more than a few times and I did not see one of the typical problem dog traders and I did not see "lots of dogs that looked starved to death".


I spent a lot of time walking around also. Talking to people and looking at dogs. I didn't see the STARVED dogs they are talking about. Most dogs this year looked like they were taken care of. How many people posting on this thread were actually at AO this year? Word to the PETA posters on here, remember it has been proven that PETA KILLS over 97% of animals they RESCUE!

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Posted by JiM on 09-12-2012 03:17 PM:

Not commenting on anyone specifically but a lot of non-hunters look at hard hunted hounds and judge them to be starving when I would just judge them to have been hunted down very hard.

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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 09-12-2012 03:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
Not commenting on anyone specifically but a lot of non-hunters look at hard hunted hounds and judge them to be starving when I would just judge them to have been hunted down very hard.


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Posted by JOEL HINSON on 09-12-2012 04:02 PM:

Google Purina dog body score chart. They have a chart with drawings and a narrative describing what a dog should look like. I was at AO and saw a couple of dog that may have been underweight. There were several more that were not in the condition I want my dogs in either. I am the director of animal control in the county where I live and talk with lots of people about thin dogs. The complainant usually owns a dog that is obese. 8 or 9 on the chart. Has anybody ever seen a long distance runner that is overweight? Make sure to buy a good quality feed and keep your dog wormed.


Posted by Richard Lambert on 09-12-2012 05:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Majestic Tree H
I'm Calling this BS ..

Oh my goodness!!! BS on the Message board, surely not.


Posted by Majestic Tree H on 09-12-2012 07:12 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lambert
Oh my goodness!!! BS on the Message board, surely not.
!!!!!!

NOT at ALL ... LOL

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Posted by Haze Creek Kennel on 09-12-2012 07:43 PM:

this is a shame

There are so many young hunters out there would love to have a pup to start. Man if you dont want the pups dont breed,but there are alot of folks that breed dogs to have pups to take to the big hunts just to sale and theres the folks that breed to sell pups to make a living and thers nothing wrong with that. Just dont breed dogs to sell pups to take to hunts and sale and when you leave and leave them if you know you not gonna take them home give them to a kid to love and give them a nice home either to hunt or just to have them a pet. TO ME ITS BETTER TO GIVE A PUP AWAY THEN TO LEAVE IT TO STARVE OR FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO HAVE TO FIND A PLACE FOR THEM. JMO

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Posted by Cleo on 09-12-2012 07:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Dirtdevil
Those big hunts surely bring in enough money to the city and it's businesses to cover the cost of euthanizing a few extra dogs along with the ump-teen in the pound from their own locals ....

... folks can never bring up an issue with blowing it out of proportion to make them look more right than they really are.


... you come across abandoned dogs , well ... that aint a coonhunter thing .. that's just a sorry thing that all groups of dog owners do ...

.. don't really matter who or why it's left , and the dog getting put down or starving don't know it's a coonhound or care why he was left ....

he's gonna end up " humanely euthanized" by those caring souls that think they are better than everyone else ... well , ask those shelter dogs how glad they are to have been rescued and humanely put down ....



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Posted by trackntreeman on 09-12-2012 09:09 PM:

Re: Re: GA DAWG

quote:
Originally posted by Todd K / UKC
See....this is where the difference of opinions comes in. I'm not saying I couldn't have missed one (some) but I drove the whole grounds more than a few times and I did not see one of the typical problem dog traders and I did not see "lots of dogs that looked starved to death".
I didn't attend oaks this year but have the previous few years and I never saw a down right starved hound . Seen several dog jockeys but most looked fair to good to me . If I buy a dog I don't want it to be as big around as a freakin barrel , I want one in hunting shape . I've asked for a number on the hounds that where left and no one has posted a number that I've seen , so iam calling this bs as well , and if it's not please prove me wrong cause this would be a complete outrage if this was true .

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Posted by twillman on 09-12-2012 10:43 PM:

STARVE ANIMALS

EVERY MAN HAS THERE OPINION ON MISTREATED DOGS I KNOW WHAT I SEEN IN SOME THE PENS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SET SOME RULES DOWN FOR NEXT YEAR THATS ALL BETTER SHELTER OUT THE SUN SOME FOOD WATER DAILY CLEAN UP NO DISRESPECT TOWARD NO ONE


Posted by Dale Young on 09-12-2012 10:47 PM:

Re: Leaving pups at AO

quote:
Originally posted by jack haughton
Another instance of leaving pups . At the morel we were staying , Sunday morn I look out and see a crate of 4puppies behind Cracker Barrel ,no water some food and not a soul around,I get the manager from Cracker Barrel and we proceed to check out the puppies and she goes to get water then from over at the motel this woman and 2 children wander over and ask if we want them and she say that they brought 9 and sold 5 so these were left over's. So with the publicity now happening she get her husband? and the load them up.(from VA.)I do hope they did not dump them on the way Home. Some people do not deserve pets or children.IMO.


I stopped at the Cracker Barrel with friends and our RVs Sunday morning and we parked right in front of that cage of blue pups. I wondered about them and thought maybe they'd been put over away from the motel because they were noisy. Didn't really care much for the way they were just setting over there alone, not the way I care for mine but they were all gone when we came out.


Posted by redneckroc on 09-13-2012 12:01 AM:

I was there drove around the fairgrounds three times sunday afternoon. I didnt see any pups or dogs left behind. I had heard this had happened before. i would have taken them home and fed them there are always youngsters looking for a dog so i would have helped them out. It is not coonhunters doing this if it is going on. I have ten different kinds of dogs dumped by my house and my wife feeds and worms them and finds them homes. People trying to make a fast buck do this kind of crap and it gives everybody a black eye. Just my two cents


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