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Posted by Mark Zepp on 07-31-2012 06:31 PM:

This video is a great overview of the Alpha, 4 minutes

http://youtu.be/vY_cV-pRdkc

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Posted by HOBO on 07-31-2012 06:48 PM:

You can add your buddies collar without the collar being close. You can also let your buddy be able to shock your dog OR just track the dog.

The build of the collar is alot like most Tri-Tronics collars which means its built better than the DC40's.

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Posted by K. Singletary on 07-31-2012 09:06 PM:

Is this the only system Garmin will offer going forward or will they also continue to offer and improve a track only system?

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Posted by Mark Zepp on 07-31-2012 09:16 PM:

Hello Mr. Singletary!

Garmin will continue to produce and sell the Astro 320 and DC 40 and I am sure they will, as they have always done, continue to make improvements on those products as well.

I think that is your question, right?

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Posted by GA DAWG on 07-31-2012 09:54 PM:

Guess I'll see how much the new marshal is. Tri tronics just is not a quality unit anymore. I hate it as much as anybody. To the tune of however much my g3 trashbreaker and 2 collars were. Its a good idea combining them though.

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Posted by R_Wilson on 07-31-2012 10:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by GA DAWG
Guess I'll see how much the new marshal is. Tri tronics just is not a quality unit anymore. I hate it as much as anybody. To the tune of however much my g3 trashbreaker and 2 collars were. Its a good idea combining them though.


that new marshall is gonna be rediculous on price buddy but i bet it will be flawless...

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Posted by smokin-1-mo on 07-31-2012 11:07 PM:

I AM NOT VERY GOOD AT WORKIN MY SMART PHONE,HOW USER FRIENDLY IS THIS THING FOR US HILLBILLYS HERE IN MISSOURI...I LIKE THE LOOKS OF IT....


Posted by Mark Zepp on 07-31-2012 11:09 PM:

Hello Mr. Ghosthunter!

If you read between the shadows, or I mean the directions , you'll see this ALPHA has a really neat feature called "Rescue " mode, which I think should have been called Extended Battery Life mode.

You can set it on this "Rescue"mode and when 70% of your battery is used up in the collar, the update rate on the collar will switch from 2.5 seconds to 2 minutes, which means the collar with "ping" a signal every 2 minutes instead of 2.5 seconds.... by doing this, you extend the life of the collar to almost 2 full days, or 44 hours.

Hope this helps with some of your concerns.

Warm regards,

Mark

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Posted by DestinysDemon on 07-31-2012 11:16 PM:

It looks nice. But I would have to sell my kidney to get one lol!

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Posted by john Duemmer on 07-31-2012 11:17 PM:

I love my garmin but have no faith in anything tri tronics has made in the last few years. Quality and customer service were both poor.
Guess i will wait and see if these units pass the coonhunter durability test. Dont know if i like the touch screen idea or not, they are easy enough to crack on a phone.

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Posted by Mark Zepp on 07-31-2012 11:18 PM:

Smokin-1-mo,

I lived in MO for about 10 years...I don't own a smart phone because I can't run one....but the ALPHA is very user friendly....

I think everyone will love the features!

Mark

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Posted by tra_cline on 07-31-2012 11:22 PM:

So if I start my "ping" out at 2.5 min how long will the battery last/

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Posted by Ryan1988 on 07-31-2012 11:24 PM:

mr mark zepp

if you dont mind me asking where in the ozark moutains was this tested at 3 miles?

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Posted by Adam Hibbs on 07-31-2012 11:24 PM:

I think gun dog is selling these for $799. If the Tri Tronics works as good as it says it could be worth it. Looks like a nice unit but im not spending my money until the bugs are worked out. The new collar is enough to make me want one though.


Posted by GA DAWG on 07-31-2012 11:28 PM:

Yall don't hunt any ukc hunts do you? I can't use a simple little hunt timer on my phone in a ukc hunt. These will never go over.

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Posted by R_Wilson on 07-31-2012 11:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by john Duemmer
I love my garmin but have no faith in anything tri tronics has made in the last few years. Quality and customer service were both poor.


I couldnt Agree more. Bad part is ALL Ive ever used is TT till recently. I am not the only one that has these feelings though.

Care too touch on that Mr. Zepp? Why has the quality of TT gone down hill??

Thanks

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Posted by Ryan1988 on 07-31-2012 11:30 PM:

you are right ga dawg it willnt for either kc!

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Posted by R_Wilson on 07-31-2012 11:33 PM:

these will be allowed in PKC. They are supposed to be working on the rules and have them fixed before these units start to ship...or thats how i read it

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Posted by john Duemmer on 07-31-2012 11:35 PM:

If they cant be used in the hunts they are sure to flop. But i suspect the KCs. will amend their rules to allow them with the prongs removed. Time will tell.

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Posted by Mark Zepp on 07-31-2012 11:36 PM:

Ryan - Rolla area

Tra - You have the choice of setting the "Rescue" mode at anytime during the hunt. The standard update rate on ALPHA is 2.5 seconds.... it is 5 seconds on the 220 and 320.

If you leave the collar set at the standard 2.5 update, it will run right at 24 hours. If you set the "Rescue" mode, it updates at 2.5 seconds, until there is 30% power left in the collar, then it automatically switches over to the 2 minute update rate which extends the life to 44 hours.

Hope that helps.

Mark

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Posted by Ryan1988 on 07-31-2012 11:40 PM:

thanks mr zepp! id like to see how it works in this part of the ozarks!

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Posted by bigdaddy74 on 08-01-2012 12:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by john Duemmer
If they cant be used in the hunts they are sure to flop. But i suspect the KCs. will amend their rules to allow them with the prongs removed. Time will tell.
Will that void the warranty of the garmin? I want to know for sure before I invest 800 in it.


Posted by mattkiser269 on 08-01-2012 12:13 AM:

Im pretty sure the prongs are designed to be removed for that very reason (the hunts)


Posted by TQS_Kennel on 08-01-2012 12:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
It doesn't look like this one will be legal for UKC or PKC competition. Also, I wonder what the TT range is?


How will it be any different than running a tracking collar and a seperate e-collar in a hunt?

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Posted by Ryan1988 on 08-01-2012 12:19 AM:

it doesnt matter it is the rules! dont matter if the prongs are in it or not!you still have the hand held with you! maybe allen or todd will tell

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