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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 07-04-2012 09:39 PM:

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
Hoosier. I really think he's worth a lot more to you than what he will really bring. 2500 is what I actually think he may bring. Maybe 3. He'd have to prove he was the real deal to somebody for a week at that. He would bring more if anybody knew you or knew you had money or you always were on here talking your stuff up and making threads about e or out of the flavor of the month stud dog.. You ain't did that or got that so you will have to sell to the plain feller cheaper. That's just how it is

lol nobody in their right mind would sell a dog I described for 2500 or 3. That is the price a young started dog brings all day long. We are not talking about a started dog we are talking about a dog that has a great shot at winning every cast it is put in.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 07-04-2012 09:49 PM:

Big coon dog man! A 14 to 16 month old is not a finished dog. It could mess up any day. People with just some sence know that. Your not a beller. Just an average joe cooner. So sell that bad boy for your starie eyed dream price of 10 to 15 k. If you knew what the sob was worth. Why you start the thread?

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Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 07-04-2012 09:56 PM:

For giggles is why I started the thread. To see what some of the guys that get on here would ask. I know what a dog of the caliber I DESCRIBED is worth. Im no average hunter either bud. I can sure as hell promise you the average hunter isnt chasing these dogs around 4 or 5 nights a week in this heat. How many average hunters you know hunt after coon season?

Posted by john Duemmer on 07-04-2012 10:01 PM:

This scenario reminds me of an old hunter that used to live near me, he always had a couple TOP hounds and never fooled with pups. He wouldnt buy a dog younger than 3 or older than 5, said he didnt want a MIGHT BE or a HAS BEEN.

Sounds to me like what you have is a MIGHT BE.
MIGHT BE a top dog at 3
MIGHT win hunts.
MIGHT perform well with company
MIGHT get it done when hauled around the country and hunted in all conditions
The point is at 15 Mos. you have a young dog with alot of talent and the tools and he MIGHT become a top hound.
At this point you need a customer that is willing to gamble.

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Posted by GA DAWG on 07-04-2012 10:34 PM:

One right up the rd from me. A cast winner!! 3 yr old. He is what he is. Out of the winningest litters off Mojo. I can buy him cheaper than Hoosier wants for this pup that may make it and may not. 3k would be top dollar for it. Prolly want bring that. I just didn't wanna hurt your feelings.lol.

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Posted by chuck west on 07-04-2012 10:47 PM:

OK Hoosier what hunts has he won,,,how many was entered ?? Was any of the hunts bigger hunts out of state or all smaller local hunts in nearby counties ,,these are some of the questions i've seen you post about other hounds .

Posted by GA DAWG on 07-04-2012 11:32 PM:

Hold on a min. Is this a walker? If not the price just went down more.

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Posted by RHK on 07-05-2012 12:42 AM:

ive hunted with the dog more than once or twice. he acts like a finished dog everytime ive seen him turned loose. he gets by himself and trees coon. when he is hooked he is staying and id put $ on it. this pup has a long future in pkc thats for sure. id say a dog like that is worth as much as someone wants to pay to own him.

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 07-05-2012 03:24 AM:

Thanks RHK.

I hear this talk sometimes of dogs selling for big money at a young age. So that lead me to ask if you owned a top young hound what would you ask? No need to drag my mutts into it lol

Posted by dixiedog on 07-05-2012 04:22 AM:

The wind blows again. Lol.

Posted by Nathan Callihan on 07-05-2012 05:05 AM:

I have one that has won one Pkc hunt and has a first in ukc! 16m old. Been in 5 hunts. He can't handle hunting with mean dogs yet but will start/finish his own track quick and stay treed under pressure. Will coveryou other dogs. Will kick dirt in your face and go till treed sometimes and sometimes go out and come back to check in for a min.
I turn down $2500. I've not had one like him so im keeping him. Another buddy of mine said he would have jerk the mans hand off and he would never spend 2k on one dog period!
So its really what he's worth to you! One man may have money to burn while the other counts his pennies for gas to hunt! And just because you sell/buy a young dog for big $$$ doesn't mean its the best! Best ones I've seen was given away!
In your case your dog sounds real good and the best of luck either way! I hope it gets in someones hands that will push it hard to know what it will do.

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Posted by roverdog on 07-05-2012 05:49 AM:

Some more info is needed on hound / Mouth extra loud / loud / med loud / soft mouth / chop or bawl on tree / chop or bawl on track / open or silent on track / 1st-2nd-3rd or 4th strike type hound or automatic / loner or a packer or a little both / hunting style strait line or hunt around / I will probably think of a couple more ?'s while waiting for reply

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Posted by juross on 07-05-2012 12:43 PM:

well

ive owned and trained several like that i can buy a grch nitech pkc ch 2 year old all grand male that i trained right now for $2000.oo the dog has a big mouth stay put honest treedog no junk no babbling a locate my son who is 5 has actually called treed and is smart dont need a lead doesnt bark when hes tied to the truck at the hunts and has his money for the fall superstakes won so i dont reckon hes worth anymore then he is its all about when two fools met i being a trainer have never paid more than 100 for a pup the only people thats willing to pay big money for a male dog is the ones that hope to make him a stud dog and at that hes gotta be a good looker have a big mouth and do alot of winning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by GA DAWG on 07-05-2012 01:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan Callihan
I have one that has won one Pkc hunt and has a first in ukc! 16m old. Been in 5 hunts. He can't handle hunting with mean dogs yet but will start/finish his own track quick and stay treed under pressure. Will coveryou other dogs. Will kick dirt in your face and go till treed sometimes and sometimes go out and come back to check in for a min.
I turn down $2500. I've not had one like him so im keeping him. Another buddy of mine said he would have jerk the mans hand off and he would never spend 2k on one dog period!
So its really what he's worth to you! One man may have money to burn while the other counts his pennies for gas to hunt! And just because you sell/buy a young dog for big $$$ doesn't mean its the best! Best ones I've seen was given away!
In your case your dog sounds real good and the best of luck either way! I hope it gets in someones hands that will push it hard to know what it will do.

No telling what yours would bring in Hoosiers neck of the woods. He can do all that in north Ga. He'd be a sure nuff superstar in the north country!!

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Posted by River Birch Run on 07-05-2012 05:35 PM:

A dog that is everything you have said dosen't need a price tag, and would never be posted on a board forsale. When there like that people talk and your phone rings and people will throw very very large numbers at you w/o ever seeing the dog in the woods.

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 07-05-2012 05:40 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by River Birch Run
A dog that is everything you have said dosen't need a price tag, and would never be posted on a board forsale. When there like that people talk and your phone rings and people will throw very very large numbers at you w/o ever seeing the dog in the woods.

so how large of a number would it take to say deal?

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 07-05-2012 05:41 PM:

Re: well

quote:
Originally posted by juross
ive owned and trained several like that i can buy a grch nitech pkc ch 2 year old all grand male that i trained right now for $2000.oo the dog has a big mouth stay put honest treedog no junk no babbling a locate my son who is 5 has actually called treed and is smart dont need a lead doesnt bark when hes tied to the truck at the hunts and has his money for the fall superstakes won so i dont reckon hes worth anymore then he is its all about when two fools met i being a trainer have never paid more than 100 for a pup the only people thats willing to pay big money for a male dog is the ones that hope to make him a stud dog and at that hes gotta be a good looker have a big mouth and do alot of winning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This guy has it all figured out lol

Posted by GA DAWG on 07-05-2012 05:52 PM:

Re: well

quote:
Originally posted by juross
ive owned and trained several like that i can buy a grch nitech pkc ch 2 year old all grand male that i trained right now for $2000.oo the dog has a big mouth stay put honest treedog no junk no babbling a locate my son who is 5 has actually called treed and is smart dont need a lead doesnt bark when hes tied to the truck at the hunts and has his money for the fall superstakes won so i dont reckon hes worth anymore then he is its all about when two fools met i being a trainer have never paid more than 100 for a pup the only people thats willing to pay big money for a male dog is the ones that hope to make him a stud dog and at that hes gotta be a good looker have a big mouth and do alot of winning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Would the guy do any trading? Does he hunt deep and have the Ricky a major amount of the time?

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Posted by DBW on 07-05-2012 06:17 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by john Duemmer
This scenario reminds me of an old hunter that used to live near me, he always had a couple TOP hounds and never fooled with pups. He wouldnt buy a dog younger than 3 or older than 5, said he didnt want a MIGHT BE or a HAS BEEN.

Sounds to me like what you have is a MIGHT BE.
MIGHT BE a top dog at 3
MIGHT win hunts.
MIGHT perform well with company
MIGHT get it done when hauled around the country and hunted in all conditions
The point is at 15 Mos. you have a young dog with alot of talent and the tools and he MIGHT become a top hound.
At this point you need a customer that is willing to gamble.

This is the best post I have ever read on this board ever not getting in this at all just about all dogs in genarl just because they might be what they r now does not mean they will b that in a year a young dog can switch in a new york min but the price of the dog you r talking about is only worth what one will pay good luck with ur hound Dave

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Posted by dixiedog on 07-05-2012 06:20 PM:

I would say he is just the average hound. Seems the guy doesn't know how to price him without everybodys help. Heck this time of year in Indiana a potlicker can tree a coon. Lol

Posted by Hoosier Man1 on 07-05-2012 07:27 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by dixiedog
I would say he is just the average hound. Seems the guy doesn't know how to price him without everybodys help. Heck this time of year in Indiana a potlicker can tree a coon. Lol

Attention to detail bud. Im not from Indy.

Posted by robgregory on 07-05-2012 07:58 PM:

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Ya know,I been readin this post for the past couple of days.I don't know 'bout all of you guys,but surely,most of ya have had a dog do really well in it's first year.Then all of a sudden start actin' like an idiot afterwards.I always called it the "Terrible 2's".Now,granted,not all are that way.But,I have had quite a few over the years go thru this period.Some grow out of it.Some don't. Granted Hoosier man,you may not be from Indiana,but coons are just about as thick in Ohio too.
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Posted by patches9452 on 07-05-2012 08:49 PM:

a dog like this in my opinion if hes has it all.... ability mouth and looks will not be forsale and probably cant be bought unless someone gets really stupid.... 10,000 wouldnt touch it if it was what i liked and wanted.... its cheap to hunt a good dog if you already own it and no matter how much money you got its very hard to buy one.... most who know me know this and dont even ask lol.... i hunt blueticks and have turned down more than they will ever be worth but i just like hunting a good dog.... you figure the time it takes to make one they all to cheap

Posted by john Duemmer on 07-05-2012 09:01 PM:

The problem with gettin more than a couple thousand for a good started dog is that as a general rule stupid people are usually also poor people.

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Posted by robgregory on 07-05-2012 09:51 PM:

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Heck,it wasn't too many years ago,the WORLD CHAMPION sold for $20,000.Don't think I'd be spending $10,000 for a dog that young.
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