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Posted by elvis on 12-28-2005 06:20 PM:

too much of a good thing can be disasterous also.
ive seen some nice balanced dogs from a couple of the stud dogs named,but when you doubled up on it they had way too much tree and no balance.

Posted by Rip on 12-28-2005 06:29 PM:

Elvis and Oak Ridge,

Since I have moved to this part of the state I have hunted with plenty of "whitey" bred dogs and to be 100% honest about them I have never seen them have a problem slick treeing. They have all pretty much had the meat when they treed and I have been impressed with them as a whole. As a matter of fact, if I ever switched to Walkers (which I would never do, but as long as we are talking hypothetical here ) then that would be the line I would try first (I hate to walk up the mountain to a slick tree LOL). I also like the Boone bred dogs for the same reasons.

Is my impression of those dogs as a whole wrong? Have I just been exposed to a regional situation due to the terrain or is accuracy one of the Whitey dogs traits?

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Posted by Roger Hughes on 12-28-2005 07:15 PM:

Nailor, no comparison. Drawed him twice that i remember, couldnt tree a coon by himself if he had to. Loud, and a tree dog, but the sorriest track dog ever. I always swore he was at least half blue dog>>>>>

Posted by elvis on 12-28-2005 07:23 PM:

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Originally posted by Rip
Elvis and Oak Ridge,

Since I have moved to this part of the state I have hunted with plenty of "whitey" bred dogs and to be 100% honest about them I have never seen them have a problem slick treeing. They have all pretty much had the meat when they treed and I have been impressed with them as a whole. As a matter of fact, if I ever switched to Walkers (which I would never do, but as long as we are talking hypothetical here ) then that would be the line I would try first (I hate to walk up the mountain to a slick tree LOL). I also like the Boone bred dogs for the same reasons.

Is my impression of those dogs as a whole wrong? Have I just been exposed to a regional situation due to the terrain or is accuracy one of the Whitey dogs traits?

ive hunted with many whitey dogs,they sure have done a lot of winning.and they didnt win by treeing slick trees.
they are just not the type or style of dog i prefer to hunt.

Posted by chopper5 on 12-28-2005 10:31 PM:

IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY OAK RIDGE HE WAS OFF STYLISH CLOVER. HIS MOTHER WAS OFF JR. I MAY BE WRONG BUT I THINK THATS HOW IT WAS.

Posted by sheepster on 12-29-2005 01:28 AM:

folks I hate to say it, but the verdict just aint looking good fer ole rat attack.................

Posted by GA DAWG on 12-29-2005 03:10 AM:

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Originally posted by Jerry Moll
I have hunted with both accurate and inaccurate hounds off every stud listed and many more that are not listed.

When evaluating stud dogs and their reproducing abilities, many times folks forget two HUGE points:
#1 Every litter has a momma, think about it
#2 The trainers of the pups sired by the stud dog in question have a huge impact on the finished product if it is ever finished at all

You nailed it Jerry!#2 Is the key in these parts.#1 also comes into play Bigtime.I myself would rather have a pup that likes to tree alittle to much than one that will hardly tree and run around and bark for hours at a time like its smelling something.I just aint gonna have that!!

Posted by Jerry Moll on 12-29-2005 03:54 AM:

When a good trainer has an otherwise good young prospect making too many blank trees he has several options and tools at his disposal including a good pair of walking boots and several green limbs. When you have one that runs too much and doesn’t make enough trees your options are limited to; hollow point or solid point.

I have owned several of both types over the years.

Posted by Chad Carter on 12-29-2005 05:58 AM:

Well said Jerry. My thoughts exactly.

Posted by Oak Ridge on 12-29-2005 12:34 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Rip
Elvis and Oak Ridge,

Since I have moved to this part of the state I have hunted with plenty of "whitey" bred dogs and to be 100% honest about them I have never seen them have a problem slick treeing. They have all pretty much had the meat when they treed and I have been impressed with them as a whole. As a matter of fact, if I ever switched to Walkers (which I would never do, but as long as we are talking hypothetical here ) then that would be the line I would try first (I hate to walk up the mountain to a slick tree LOL). I also like the Boone bred dogs for the same reasons.

Is my impression of those dogs as a whole wrong? Have I just been exposed to a regional situation due to the terrain or is accuracy one of the Whitey dogs traits?

Rip,

Basically the clover bred dogs are known for thier accuracy as a WHOLE. There will always be individuals that do not fit the norm, but as a whole they are on the better end of the scale.

They also have the reputation of "making fewer trees", which may or may not be the case. To me it evens out. If I have two dogs, one that makes lots of trees and has 70% accuracy, or one that makes fewer trees, but is 95% accuracy, I'll take the 95% accurate dog every night. The typical "Clover bred" dog tracks to the tree, while some of the others are tracking, then lifitng thier head and checking/locating. You can sure learn a lot by hunting with the tracking system on all evening with a tree switch on the collar.......

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Posted by Hiphop on 12-29-2005 10:52 PM:

According to the poll Lipper dogs are pretty accurate, its hard to miss when you dont tree and run deer all night.

Before yall bash me its what I hunt.

Posted by scott simmons on 12-30-2005 02:59 PM:

According to the poll Lipper dogs are pretty accurate, its hard to miss when you dont tree and run deer all night.

lol how true that can be but that is why tritronics is in business and that is what i hunt also

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Posted by Wes Coffman on 12-30-2005 03:33 PM:

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Originally posted by Hiphop
According to the poll Lipper dogs are pretty accurate, its hard to miss when you dont tree and run deer all night.

Before yall bash me its what I hunt.

Hiphop, Oak Ridge, and Jerry all make good points. Just like Hiphop said above its hard for one to miss that runs all night, I guess you could say its easy for one to miss that makes a lot of tree's like everyone says the Rat dogs do. How many of you raise and train pups and they don't do anything, let alone tree? I haven't figured out how to make one tree yet and doubt anyone else has either. I believe it is much easier to take some of the tree out of'em as to try and put some in'em. Most dogs that slick tree consistently were made that way by the handler/trainer. JMO.

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