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Posted by Okie Dawg on 02-24-2010 01:57 AM:

I raised trained and sold jagd's for a while. Mine were the most gritty dog I have ever seen. They would tree if the game was in the tree or go to ground if that is were the game was. I trained some for cadaver but most went for hog dogs. I had to seperate the pups at 4 weaks old or they would kill each other.
There are people breeding the game out and trying to make a pet dog out of them now. I had to sell all mine when I moved to town or they would had killed every cat here if they ever got out. I allways discribed them as a land perona. They just lived to hunt and hunt to live. Constant movement and if any body out there knows of any that came from me I woud sure like to find some of my old blood out of Joe and Abby. Most got sold up in northern texas. One about won the hog comp. in Louisiana at around a year old. Very friendly little dogs toward people though BUT pertective of the fam.
To give you an idea of there grit. I had 2 males in pens side by side. One ate a hole in the fence and got his head threw. By the time I got to them his head was on one side his body on the other and they weren't attached. That was my Joe that beheaded him.
Any one hear of any up around the south west corner of oklahoma into Texas have them give me a shout. Sure would like to find them.

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Posted by Blue Style on 02-24-2010 02:06 AM:

Grady, THAT kind of aggression was the reason I fixed my female, and will never own another one. She is as gritty as you could want, BUT not towards tame cats, other dogs or people. She has killed quite a few coon, a bunch of wild tom cats around the house, fought coyotes, bobcats and bayed a mountain lion once. You can get a very gritty one but they must be controllable or they will be a liability. Imo....

Posted by Jay Dangers on 02-24-2010 02:10 AM:

Anyone around Wisconsin bred them? I would like to try one, bet they would be hell on coon in the hay mow or wood chucks around the buildings.

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Posted by Blue Style on 02-24-2010 02:12 AM:

that is what they are used for a lot Jay...I know a guy in nebraska that has some...

Posted by Jay Dangers on 02-24-2010 02:19 AM:

Pm me his info if you have it Matt, maybe could get a couple sent here??

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Posted by on 02-24-2010 02:31 AM:

I've been wanting a Jadg for awhile now. A couple friends have them. Great little dogs. I'm on a waiting list for one now... but I'm near the bottom of a long list.

My biggest concern is finding one with the right disposition. I want one to hold down the fort while I'm away but not one that is going to keep Grandpa and Grandma bayed inside they're car when the come to visit.

I'm also not real keen on the idea of overpaying for one (I realize there is a demand for them). For what I'm looking for a decent jack russell or terrier mix would do the job, but aren't nearly as cool as a Jadg.

Jay Dangers, Dan McDonough (look in the Leopard hound section) also has jadgs. I've heard he has a nice male. Dan is around Green Bay I think.
Also, Dan Minten is NW Iowa. These are the only guys I know in the area that might be able to help.

Posted by Okie Dawg on 02-24-2010 02:33 AM:

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Originally posted by Blue Style
Grady, THAT kind of aggression was the reason I fixed my female, and will never own another one. She is as gritty as you could want, BUT not towards tame cats, other dogs or people. She has killed quite a few coon, a bunch of wild tom cats around the house, fought coyotes, bobcats and bayed a mountain lion once. You can get a very gritty one but they must be controllable or they will be a liability. Imo....

Yep we had a child day care at the same time as the jagd's. Never any problem with kids,our cat or our dogs once they new not to but when you bring a new one in you better keep it safe for a while and not let it any were near a bitch in heat. I loved the agression. Just couldn't bring it to town. LOL
I kept 3 of them in the house and Joe was one of them. Tabby was another I had kids in the house of all ages,parents comeing and goingand never a problem. Now a parent wouldn't want to hit a kid there. Thee arm would look like a cloths line of jagd's. LOL They are very controlable for people that can train a high drive dog.

Posted by Blue Style on 02-24-2010 02:39 AM:

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Originally posted by Okie Dawg

To give you an idea of there grit. I had 2 males in pens side by side. One ate a hole in the fence and got his head threw. By the time I got to them his head was on one side his body on the other and they weren't attached. That was my Joe that beheaded him.

That is what I am talking about. That is not control, that is simply uncontrolled aggression. I would cull cull cull with that kind of aggression problem. (and already have)

Posted by Sheriff Andy on 02-24-2010 02:46 AM:

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 02-24-2010 02:52 AM:

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Originally posted by Blue Style
That is what I am talking about. That is not control, that is simply uncontrolled aggression. I would cull cull cull with that kind of aggression problem. (and already have)

No that is called haveing a bitch in heat to close to 2 males. I learned to keep 9 gage wire between them. That wasn't a dog problem. The same one that took the head off was the one that stayed in the house and you didn't get much more obiedent than do. He allso spent the day in the barber shop with me a lot. All off leash hand commands the whole works. No I would love to have a pup out of him or Abby either one. Oh he would allso rip you a new one if I told him to but would out on command better than most cop dogs. I don't have anything trained to either one of those dogs degree right now and won't for a while.

Posted by wayne f on 02-24-2010 02:53 AM:

one tough little hunting terrier

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Posted by Blue Style on 02-24-2010 02:53 AM:

thats a jagd, lol...my old bitch (Briar) doesnt have any canine teeth left, from going in holes, biting roots, rocks, etc...I cant count the times she left out as a younger dog and came back bloody and cut to ribbons, sometimes as much as 36+ hours later...thank good ness she has started actin her age, she only takes off a couple times a month now, when I forget she is outside. She is 10. My young male, Jaeger (a double nephew to her) has come back cut up pretty bad 3 times, but I keep a closer watch on him than I used to her.

Posted by Blue Style on 02-24-2010 02:57 AM:

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Originally posted by Okie Dawg
No that is called haveing a bitch in heat to close to 2 males. I learned to keep 9 gage wire between them. That wasn't a dog problem. The same one that took the head off was the one that stayed in the house and you didn't get much more obiedent than do. He allso spent the day in the barber shop with me a lot. All off leash hand commands the whole works. No I would love to have a pup out of him or Abby either one. Oh he would allso rip you a new one if I told him to but would out on command better than most cop dogs. I don't have anything trained to either one of those dogs degree right now and won't for a while.

I have had male dogs fight around bitches in heat, and ya blood was drawn a couple times, but taking a dogs head off, I dont care what breed, that is not something I would own or condone. But hey, thats my opinion, and has been a while. That is why I own 2 jagds, both are fixed and I wont own another.

Posted by Blue Iron on 02-24-2010 03:00 AM:

Re: i have a

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Originally posted by josh tetting
jagd and i'll tell you what shes as much of a coon dog as any hound ive owned she hunts hard opens on track and drives it
to the tree and hits it with about 120+ bpm
she cold trails pretty well and is 100% independent...
she catches alot of coons on the ground to. 30 pound coons are just a snack for my little penny one chomp on the head and the coon is toast...... i have to have a tracking collar on her cause she isnt stopping till she gets treed. If its a den i just lift her up through her in there you here some nasty sounds then pretty soon ol penny comes out draging mr coon out by his ears.....

I'm calling B.S.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 02-24-2010 03:11 AM:

Well Terrior is the breed to go to when you want a dog with the instinct to fight to the death and I think it has been preserved well in the jagd. I don't think they should ever be sold for pets though. They don't belong in every bodies hands and it is a good way of getting people hurt.
I use to have a dog that would bite a friend while we were playing in the back yard as kids. If the dog thought one was trying to hurt me. I know what would happen with a jagd in that situation.
Hunting for meat dog though. TOP OF THE LINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Blue Style on 02-24-2010 03:14 AM:

I cant argue that they are efficient to the utmost. If I could get the dog without the excess aggression, it would be the perfect dog. I would like to try a drathar, I really liked the airedale I had. My old female is PERFECT for me, but sadly they have to get old. She is still in great shape at 10 though, acts like a 5 year old, and no grey.

Posted by Okie Dawg on 02-24-2010 03:37 AM:

Yep had 3 of them and loved them. All but there hair. I sent one out on a search in kansas one time and when he came back they nick named him velcro.............. stick tights had his eyes held shut and you can guess what the rest of him looked like it you got one. I had one show type and one hunting breed. The show one was easier to handle, leaner,and as good of man tracker as I have seen but the ones out of the hunting blood was tough as nails, smart but stubern. Had to have a stronger hand on them. Still good dogs though.

Posted by Blue Style on 02-24-2010 03:40 AM:

My Airedale female would get completely covered in stick tights, but she was very easy to comb out...she was just too dang big, 85lbs at 11 months old. Very intelligent, and as big a clown as I have seen, she gave me more laughs than any dog I have ever been around. But you didnt want to challenge her, we had one dog jump on her trying to take her down, and she thought that leopard female was playing, lol...

Posted by Okie Dawg on 02-24-2010 03:58 AM:

Posted by littleriverjagd on 02-24-2010 10:39 PM:

Guys there are jagds out there without that kind of aggression.Dog aggression and being able to handle a coon is 2 entirely different things. For one a dog that got loose and would rather stick around the homeplace and dog fight instead of hitting the woods and hunting wouldn't live long at my place. Another thing is a bored ,pinned up terrier is trouble. A jagd needs hunted and exercised on a regular basis.

As others have said I have never personally seen one that was agressive towards people. I have a couple of little children and if I thought they wer4e in harms way at all I wouldn't own the dogs.

A little warning for people looking to get into jagds. First of all do plenty of research on the breeder and even the breedings of the dogs you are looking at and if at all possible go see the parents hunt.

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Posted by josh tetting on 02-24-2010 10:46 PM:

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Posted by Dan Dogs on 02-24-2010 10:46 PM:

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Anyone around Wisconsin bred them? I would like to try one, bet they would be hell on coon in the hay mow or wood chucks around the buildings.

i wouldn't hunt one with your hounds..after the first tree, your hound will have its hamstrings full of holes..

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 02-24-2010 11:16 PM:

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Guys there are jagds out there without that kind of aggression.Dog aggression and being able to handle a coon is 2 entirely different things. For one a dog that got loose and would rather stick around the homeplace and dog fight instead of hitting the woods and hunting wouldn't live long at my place. Another thing is a bored ,pinned up terrier is trouble. A jagd needs hunted and exercised on a regular basis.

As others have said I have never personally seen one that was agressive towards people. I have a couple of little children and if I thought they wer4e in harms way at all I wouldn't own the dogs.

A little warning for people looking to get into jagds. First of all do plenty of research on the breeder and even the breedings of the dogs you are looking at and if at all possible go see the parents hunt.

If you find a jagd that won't fight over a bitch in heat or goes hunting when it gets of of a pen and a bitch is in heat THAT IS THE ONE YOU NEED TO CULL!!!!!!!A terrior fights to the death once they engage. That is what they are bred for and that shouldn't change. The pet world should get them a rat terrior or something they can handle.........

Posted by littleriverjagd on 02-25-2010 12:57 AM:

Who the hell said anything about a bitch in heat?For one I don't own a female just because of that reason, they often cause more problems than what its worth. I can see that some people are more worried about getting that bitch bred than getting their dog hunted......LOL

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Posted by Justin Smith on 02-25-2010 01:02 AM:

Dogs will only do what you let them get away with ... I've had plenty of jags of all kinds and never had one that would bite people ... and never had one I raised that was a dog fighter.

If you can't control them , or don't hunt them hard ... I don't care if they bite your face off .. it's just a dog going to waste and the problem aint in the dog .

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