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Re: Do Pups that Tree Early Slick More?
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Originally posted by T Felderman
What are some thoughts. Do dogs that start treeing early around 3-6 months coming up short a bit more when they get older?
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It's all totally about the handling. Why does some people say truck lights or calling them in and they start treeing. I am a firm handler when it comes to a dog. Loading, treeing I don't care. When I want that dog to come to me he's coming regardless if he's got a coon or not. People have to realize man has control over the dog. YES a 2 year old dog will make a better coon hound in my experience. Big deal if they tree at 6 month's old, they are only puppies. They better never pull me through a fence. I WIN, over the dog.
i like to have 1 with a little brains and hyper that wants to please
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I understand what some of you guys are saying about whether a dog has treeing in him or not. The first pup I ever bought was supposed to Be Black and Tan. Took me till he was over two years old to get him to stay treed any time but come to find out years later he was 1/2 running walker and 1/2 July fox dog. Honestly do ya'll ever come up with dogs that won't tree? I mean if they are not ruint? Or just plain worthless? I am trying to recall any dog in have trained in the past 25 years that did not end up treeing satisfactorily. From Fro 40 years ago to 5 years ago I have Predominantly had House then old Hickory Nut Harry, then Dahoneys, Then Sacket Jr and Coma about the same time. I have hunted Leopards for the last five years and some Leopard X walker too. Any thing will tree . Everything has the tree blood in them. They might be a year old or older holding a tree but I don't get excited or worried till 1 1/2 years old. If I only had one dog I might want the thrill of seeing them tree early but I have plenty of tree dogs and they will tre when they are ready. Out of the dogs I listed I bet yall can make a real good guess on the one line I wasted almost ten years on. I sure did get excited seeing those little fellows hammering a tree at 5 months but after awhile you finally figure they are 5 or6 six years old and just mediocre track dogs and half accurate but showie treedogs it finally gets old.
I dont know if id expect much outta 3 to 6 month old pup .I got a dog thats alittle over two now that i trained ,he was very easy to train but i did put alot of time in on him as far as a handle and knowing right from wrong .He started treeing his owen coons at 9 months old and just got better and better every night .I mostley hunted him by his self and i think i knocked out about 30 coons to him by the time he was one year old .I have been proud of him and had alot of good nights in the woods .To me 8 to 9 months would be a earley starter .just my opinion .
Todd
I used to loved treed dogs at a young age but have shy away just a little. I want a pup that will tree a turn loose coon in style and when it shows me it can I'm starting to let them take there time and become a real coondog. It's mostly the TRAINER than the pup. JMO
i've read through these reply,s and had to respond, the best i,ve read and have to agree don,t quote me but something like there,s no two the same if they are then some one sold you your dog back. no two dogs train the same what works with one may not work on the other it takes alot of one on one time to finish a dog a pup treeing at an early age is far from a finished dog.jmo
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Originally posted by mrains
i've read through these reply,s and had to respond, the best i,ve read and have to agree don,t quote me but something like there,s no two the same if they are then some one sold you your dog back. no two dogs train the same what works with one may not work on the other it takes alot of one on one time to finish a dog a pup treeing at an early age is far from a finished dog.jmo
Now see l.Lyle. I can tell its been a dang while since you've hunted with the walkers of today. Most strike right off the lead nowdays. Might be a half mile or more before treeing but striking ain't the problem lol. I put my early treeing pup up for a few months. 2 almost. She was just to young for me seems like. Im breaking her back out this week at a yr old. Im hoping she's grown up at night in the woods. I've been working her the whole time roading and on a check cord. I hope she makes it. She seems and acts like a older dog now. I really think she has matured.
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Originally posted by GA DAWG
Now see l.Lyle. I can tell its been a dang while since you've hunted with the walkers of today. Most strike right off the lead nowdays. Might be a half mile or more before treeing but striking ain't the problem lol. I put my early treeing pup up for a few months. 2 almost. She was just to young for me seems like. Im breaking her back out this week at a yr old. Im hoping she's grown up at night in the woods. I've been working her the whole time roading and on a check cord. I hope she makes it. She seems and acts like a older dog now. I really think she has matured.
Striking for true is not the problem?
We don't Know
But we got some kind of blood that we are going to try. If that don't work I know I can always find a dog that will tree a coon.
Had one that would run and tree his own coon @ 51/2 mo. old! My buddy took his Gr. Nt. over to see this young dog and his littermate brother go. He cut his dog and and the whiter pup, he said that pup got in there got struck, his dog opened with him,and lined that track out, and no sooner did his dog come on the wood, he said that pup rolled up on the wood, with this big screamin locate and blew it down! They got back to the truck, and the fella who owned both pups ask him, "now do you wanna see my good pup"? He said that pup went huntin like an old dog, got struck and treed, and did it right! I bought the whiter pup, and he is my measuring stick. He was deadly accurate, and could tree any kind of track. I do believe that hunting him hard at such an early age, hurt him the older he got. He died at a fairly young age. This was a great cross, and that was the biggest factor in these dogs!
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