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Posted by HistoryNutt on 03-16-2012 09:19 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by kycooner1
Lonnie Mears.

Personally I feel Dan was the best reproducer out of Cheif

I have always felt that Mear's Finley River Dan was the best reproducing son of old Chief.

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Posted by Dan Dogs on 03-16-2012 09:30 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by kycooner1
Lonnie Mears.

Personally I feel Dan was the best reproducer out of Cheif

yep

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 03-16-2012 10:01 PM:

i will go with joe.of course i am sure somebody will say jack and
jill came 1st and one of those were out of old chief.

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Posted by Matt McKinney on 03-16-2012 10:02 PM:

Thank you. Sport is also on my dogs 4th generation, but Im not sure which one it is. If its the one Tom owned, or the one John owned.

quote:
Originally posted by HistoryNutt
The one we are talking about here was owned by Tom Humphrey. Hope I spelled his last name correct. He is barrelmaker on here.

There is another Finley River Sport that John also offered at stud but the one we are talking about on this thread is out of Finley River Pete and Mr. Humphrey owned him before he sold him to Mr. Boles.

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Posted by HistoryNutt on 03-16-2012 10:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Matt McKinney
Thank you. Sport is also on my dogs 4th generation, but Im not sure which one it is. If its the one Tom owned, or the one John owned.

The one John owned UKC number is J239,723. Tom's Sport was a Grand Nite Ch. Don't know about the one John had, but the number should help you out if you have the UKC papers that show Sport.

Posted by HistoryNutt on 03-16-2012 10:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Lee Currens Jr.
i will go with joe.of course i am sure somebody will say jack and
jill came 1st and one of those were out of old chief.

Yeah Jack was out of Chief but Jill was out of Buck who was a grandson of Chief. So Joe had a double shot of Chief if that counts. lol

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The sire of MONROE'S FINLEY RIVER JOE and HARROD'S KENTUCKY RIVER CHIEF

Posted by Matt McKinney on 03-16-2012 10:20 PM:

Just looked at the papers. The sport dog on my pups papers was Johns dog. Thanks again.

quote:
Originally posted by HistoryNutt
The one John owned UKC number is J239,723. Tom's Sport was a Grand Nite Ch. Don't know about the one John had, but the number should help you out if you have the UKC papers that show Sport.

Posted by kycooner1 on 03-16-2012 10:52 PM:

I live here were Mr Humphries is from,,and I can remember when he had Sport ,,and some guys saying ,Thank God he sold him,,or there wouldn't of been any coons left around here,,and this was in the 70's when it took a coondog to tree a coon.

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Posted by barrelmaker on 03-16-2012 11:37 PM:

Sport SALE

Don:

I probably ran the ad in American Cooner. Really good post, appreciate it.

Tom

Posted by joseph mcdonald on 03-17-2012 12:14 AM:

Have had and loved alot of Finley River hounds out of most everything John has run at stud.

John has always treated us with respect and been a man of his word. Always willing to show his dogs in the woods, for good or bad. And thats something to be admired.

Posted by Lone Pine JB on 03-17-2012 12:36 AM:

Re: Re: Monroe stud dogs

quote:
Originally posted by HistoryNutt

Pete and Lady produced Tall Oakes Spot, Finley River Sport and Magill's Lone Pine Jill.

Pete and Lady also produced CH Magill's Lone Pine Toby

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Posted by barrelmaker on 03-17-2012 12:58 AM:

Frank Yates

Do you still sell the books with the history of the different breeds? I bought a couple from you but different ones talked me out of them, John Monroe got one of them. I'm in Thailand now but plan to return to Kentucky by early Fall if possible and I'll look you up, The Walker book was really good.

Tom Humphrey

Posted by HistoryNutt on 03-17-2012 01:04 AM:

Re: Frank Yates

quote:
Originally posted by barrelmaker
Do you still sell the books with the history of the different breeds? I bought a couple from you but different ones talked me out of them, John Monroe got one of them. I'm in Thailand now but plan to return to Kentucky by early Fall if possible and I'll look you up, The Walker book was really good.

Tom Humphrey

Tom I just talked to him an hour or two ago. He still has some of the Walker Books. Anyone that likes the history of the breed would really enjoy his book. His phone number is 270-692-6713

Posted by steve pickett on 03-17-2012 01:18 AM:

MONROE'S FINLEY RIVER JOE

NOT ONLY WAS GOOD FOR THE WALKER PEOPLE BUT ENGLISH DOGS TO,MERKS TAPP AND JEWELLS TAPP'S MOTHER WAS A GRANDDAUGHTER OF MONROES FINLEY JOE HER SIRE WAS STURGENS NOLIN RIVER SAM WHICH WAS BY JOE,IF MY MEMORYS RIGHT THATS WHAT RAY JEWELL TOLD ME.NOT MANY ENGLISH PEOPLE KNOW THIS,TOAD WAS SINGLE REG. BY RAY JEWELL AND MADE NT.CH. AND WAS BREED TO NATIONS TAPP.

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Posted by stonehill on 03-17-2012 04:05 AM:

Seems like only yesterday to Me that we had those dogs right there at John Monroe's to breed to. No one other than Joe House could come anywhere close to John Monroe when it comes to having a top strain of hounds. I voted for Beaver Lake Lightning but every one of those FR dogs were outstanding.

Posted by elkrauskopf on 03-17-2012 06:15 AM:

I would pick them all because every dog on that list made a major impact. Roger you are wright about Lonnie not having anything after Lonnie. But ive got dogs bred the same way as Riskie I bought from Vallen and both of them will tree coon night after night.

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Posted by R.lee prater on 03-17-2012 01:46 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by elkrauskopf
I would pick them all because every dog on that list made a major impact. Roger you are wright about Lonnie not having anything after Lonnie. But ive got dogs bred the same way as Riskie I bought from Vallen and both of them will tree coon night after night.

I have some female here out of Riskie . If they wouldnt tree they wouldnt be here. I have culled some already.

Posted by Roger Wilson on 03-17-2012 04:52 PM:

Great,great, thread. When I think about Finley River Dogs my mind always goes to John Monroe. Lonnie also played a big part in my opinion by promoting Dan and sons of Dan. What a reproducer Dan was. I love reading about those old dogs. Someone on an earlier post was talking about hunting with Lone Pine Dewey. What kind of dog was Dewey and what kind of dogs did he throw?

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Posted by HistoryNutt on 03-17-2012 09:15 PM:

POLL

Since I messed up on the Poll and was only limited to 10 hounds anyway I had forgotten that I had put a Poll up on my web site about voting for a favorite stud John had offered. You are welcome to go there and vote if you like and the list is pretty long so you can see a lot more of the hounds he has advertised at one time then what you will see on the poll listed here.

Here is the link.

http://finleyriverchief.forumotion....e-stud-dog-poll

Posted by HistoryNutt on 03-18-2012 03:03 AM:

LONNIE MEARS AND THUNDER

A little bird just told me that Lonnie Mears won King Of Show at Ada today. Congrats to Lonnie and Thunder.

GRAND CHAMPION MEARS' FINLEY RIVER THUNDER

Posted by HistoryNutt on 03-19-2012 02:00 AM:

FINLEY RIVER PETE

FINLEY RIVER PETE has been added to the poll. Thanks to the moderator for fixing my mistake.

Posted by Okie Dawg on 03-19-2012 07:58 PM:

Re: LONNIE MEARS AND THUNDER

quote:
Originally posted by HistoryNutt
A little bird just told me that Lonnie Mears won King Of Show at Ada today. Congrats to Lonnie and Thunder.

GRAND CHAMPION MEARS' FINLEY RIVER THUNDER

That is one fine looking hound...........

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Posted by Robert Starke on 03-19-2012 10:08 PM:

Roger Prater and Nathan Prater

Hi,

They have some nice stud dogs. Most of them came from Mr. John Monroe. I don't think you will go to 15 trees they made and only find 2 coons. Maybe Roger could list them and their pics. Those dogs go back to Trap or her littermate, Radar. They were accurate tree dogs that won bench shows and treed real live coons. Raised Trap from a puppy. Owned her sire and dam. They were older pups when they were purchased and were trained on the farm. Sold Trap when she was 5 months old and already treeing, to Tom Wilbers. Tom raised several litters out of her and owned her until she died. Trap was inducted into the SWTWA Hall of Fame 1995 and Radar won a World Show in 1985. Trap was Dual Gr. Ch. Finley River Zoom's mother.

Good Hunting,
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Posted by HistoryNutt on 03-20-2012 05:52 PM:

FINLEY RIVER TRAP

GRAND CHAMPION MEAR'S FINLEY RIVER TRAP

One of the top females in her day in not only looks but ability was Finley River Trap owned by Thomas Wilbers who describes her this way.

TRAP WAS AN EXCELLENT TRACK DOG , SHE HAD A TENOR BAWL MOUTH ON THE GROUND ,DYEING QUIVER LOCATE AN CHOP MOUTH TREE DOG . ABOUT 80 TO 90 BARK'S A MINUTE . SHE WAS DEADLY ACCURATE ON LAY UP'S . SHE HAD A GOOD MOUTH ,YOU COULD HEAR HER A LONG WAY'S ! I SAY THE THING THAT IMPRESSED ME THE MOST IS THE TOUGHER THE CONDITION'S THE BETTER SHE LOOKED ! AN SHE COULD JUST FALL TREED ON A LAYUP IN A HEARTH BEAT !

More impressive then her looks or ability was her reproducing. She produced many, many fine hounds and a lot of them were titled. One of her most famous pups is Dual Grand Champion Finley River Zoom that was advertised at stud by John J. Monroe She was the type of hound that you would love to have in your hounds pedigree. If you have heavy Finley River Bred hounds there is a good chance that Finley River Trap may be in some of their pedigrees..

Posted by Robert Starke on 03-21-2012 10:03 PM:

Trap

Hi,

All these dogs go back to Trap except a few.

Good Hunting,
Robert

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