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Posted by davidlloyd on 11-03-2011 12:47 AM:

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Originally posted by Whordel
Dwils Ive hunted in Michigan and Ive also hunted in your neck of the woods a bunch of times.You guys have 10 times the coon we have.Ive hunted the swamps,the thickets,the moutains and yes in the snow.I shouldnt have said what I said,Im sorry,but I just dont think a hound should have to go miles to get treed in that country.One question I do have,when you guys do get the 2-3 ft of snow,Im assuming you wait for the hard pack before you hunt?Ive hunted in about 10 inches of snow and love hunting in the snow whenever it does snow but I think my little hound couldnt make it in 3ft of fresh snow considering it would be over his head.

agree we have tons of coon but we have some spots that don hold coon no food/water not many spots like this but a few..they dont even hold squirrels very good..as far as snow when the snow gets deep i try to only hunt the warmest days of the week but its in my blood i go whenever i get the itch many times its a long walk to a big old den..2 years ago we hunted in drifts over our chaps lol made a 2mile walk to a den that night

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 11-03-2011 01:35 AM:

I would just about kill for some snow or any moisture. I noticed this summer in record breaking drought that when there is fine dust covering evering that the tree's hold scent on the bark than the ground and you start getting a lot of den trees and feeders from dogs that don't normaly do that.
I was ready to shoot the dogs till I got to the state hunt on the other side of the state were there has been more rain and not everything is just open farm land and the hunting was great and my dog did great. Just like it was at home before it got so dry.
Good to know I hadn't ruined her.

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Posted by Dwils on 11-03-2011 01:41 AM:

Mr whordel I wasn't mad sir . mine never go a mile to get treed unless they have ran a deer on the way lol

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Posted by JiM on 11-03-2011 01:56 AM:

For coonhunting site, you sure get a lot of fish stories on here.
I have hunted coons about all my life in the north and south and west and can count on one hand, in fact I could count on one hand with a few missing fingers, the number of times I have seen dogs go 2 miles or more to find a coon. But it sure makes a good story.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 11-03-2011 02:03 AM:

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Originally posted by JiM
For coonhunting site, you sure get a lot of fish stories on here.
I have hunted coons about all my life in the north and south and west and can count on one hand, in fact I could count on one hand with a few missing fingers, the number of times I have seen dogs go 2 miles or more to find a coon. But it sure makes a good story.

All the dogs I seen go that far allways have to go a long way to find a track too. LOL
Most times you can tree coon behind them. Some don't hunt for the first mile and others just hunt in a straight line.

Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 11-03-2011 02:05 AM:

847 yrds last night river cliffs 2 trees thin coons hunted
to death hot sweating.i was going to shoot something
when we walked in.i guess its all a mater of what you
want to hunt.i would thank if he could start it on the cold
end he should be able to finish on the hot end.

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Posted by davidlloyd on 11-03-2011 02:07 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by JiM
For coonhunting site, you sure get a lot of fish stories on here.
I have hunted coons about all my life in the north and south and west and can count on one hand, in fact I could count on one hand with a few missing fingers, the number of times I have seen dogs go 2 miles or more to find a coon. But it sure makes a good story.

JiM your not to far from me you should come hunt with me some time the spot im refering to is about 45 mins north of Marcellus off m 40....theres some good huntin up there but there are some spots that coons are far and few any time you wanna come up the offer is open....i can count on one hand the times my dogs have gone near a mile or over a mile to get struck but thats because i dont hunt these areas any more or when the snows real deep...

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Posted by greatlakehunter on 11-06-2011 01:35 AM:

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Originally posted by Whordel
We have thin coons in the hills and mountains of Eastern,Ky and we dont have to go a mile to get struck on a coon.If I had a dog that would have to go a mile to tree a coon in Michigan,Indiana or Ohio he would be taking a dirt nap on the river bank.

Now fellas i dont pretend to know it all about anything but after 50+ years of hunting hounds of all breeds i recon i will way in on this. i have hunted all over the country (hide hunting not field trial or nite hunts)ohio,kentucky,west virginia,north and south carolina,virgina,indiana, pennsylvania,illinois,iowa,canada you get my point lots of miles on these old bones.for all of you who think the midwest have thick coons you are right but dont think for one moment that every area in those midwest states have thick coons they dont depends on the area take ohio and indiana for a example i myself consider them sister states lakes to the north farm ground in the central south is the start of the applachian territory so obviously your hound will have to hunt harder and go deeper from time to time in the southern part then the central area to strike a coon thats just common sence.as the comment on the dog taking a dirt nap if he goes a mile to strike a coon in ohio michigan i strongly disagree 90% of the time they dont but area and weather and rut has alot to do with that i live in the lake erie area turn your hound loose in janurary with a foot of snow during the rut you better be ready to be cold for a while and you better have a hound with drive and grit to get one looking down at you the biggest misconception is that coon is easier to tree in ohio indiana michigan etc vs kentucky west virgina virgina all of these states have areas were coon is more abundant than others. have treed lay ups in the mountains just as the midwest have long hard well educated coons in the midwest just like you do in the mountain areas

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Posted by Whordel on 11-06-2011 06:59 AM:

Im not going to argue with you what state has the easiest coon to tree but if you think its a misconseption that coon are not easier to tree in the states that I mentioned just hike yourself back down here to Eastern,Ky and I can you refresh your memory real quick.When an area has 10x the coon,the coon are going to be easier to tree.I dont see people braking their necks to come and hunt down here lol.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 11-06-2011 07:08 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Whordel
Im not going to argue with you what state has the easiest coon to tree but if you think its a misconseption that coon are not easier to tree in the states that I mentioned just hike yourself back down here to Eastern,Ky and I can you refresh your memory real quick.When an area has 10x the coon,the coon are going to be easier to tree.I dont see people braking their necks to come and hunt down here lol.

I think what he is trying to tell you is there is dead spots in all states.

Posted by greatlakehunter on 11-06-2011 01:29 PM:

coon

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
I think what he is trying to tell you is there is dead spots in all states.

Thats all i was stating okie dawg some people just get there pannies in a wad when someone or anybody dont agree with them. and whordel i know you have thin coon in your area not doubting that and i have also seen dogs from your area come here and look confused just like some from midwest may look confused at first if you have a coon dog it will tree coon anywere your coon dont smell any diffrent then any other coon in north america there not special

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Posted by old ben on 11-06-2011 01:44 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Whordel
Im not going to argue with you what state has the easiest coon to tree but if you think its a misconseption that coon are not easier to tree in the states that I mentioned just hike yourself back down here to Eastern,Ky and I can you refresh your memory real quick.When an area has 10x the coon,the coon are going to be easier to tree.I dont see people braking their necks to come and hunt down here lol.

east tn. also lol

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Posted by horseshoer515 on 11-07-2011 01:21 AM:

coons

im in ny and our coon are very thin usually have to get in 7 or 8 hundred before struck and if we tree 1 or2 its time to quit but go couple hours west and they look pretty good but ive seen when they come here they are more likely to slick tree .

Posted by davidlloyd on 11-07-2011 01:46 AM:

hunted some good spots last night average strike was around 100 yards or less...not saying we dont have coon...look at the buudy hunt thread or example...we have coon but some areas just dont hold coon and in these areas you will not likely get struck until the dog is 3/4 to a mile...our oak flats that are huge blocks with nothing but open grass feilds and big oak wood timber with little food sources and no water..why would a coon want to live there? lol but we hunt these spots because we arnt afraid to use some boot leather lol although we only hunt them once or twice a year

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Posted by jlw13 on 11-07-2011 03:53 AM:

I live on the Tn/Ky line and i have thin coon.The main difference that i see in thick verses thin coon is accuracy.Our coon feed mainly off of oak trees were a coon is up and down every tree in the woods.In the corn belt states the coon are feeding off corn and going up the trees outside the corn fields.A dog that is 60% accurate down here should be 80% or better up there.

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