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Posted by Gentry's English on 06-29-2011 08:46 PM:

yeah I am not sure I was just told by the moh that a dog with only one nut was a disgrace to the breed but that was also a few years ago.

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Posted by podunk23 on 06-29-2011 08:52 PM:

u are correct

The Jan 2011 rule book should have been wrote a little different. If u look at the rule book on page 48 rule #22 it says A male shall be disqualified if lacking 2 normal, descended testicles in the scrotum.

But then if u turn to page 55 it says spayed and neutered dogs may compete in all events.

Kinda makes u wonder why some judges check the testicles and some don't lol.

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Posted by stonehill on 06-29-2011 10:09 PM:

A question has been brought up that I can't answer, that is what about a dog with ONE nut? You can't lie and say the dog is neutered,which is what You're suggesting He do if it has none.
As far as I'm concerned it should not show. But I really don't know about the rules.
Someone is going to come up with this ,so it might as well be Me:What about the dog that lost ONE in a hunting accident,or had cancer and had ONE removed. Anybody know the answer ???


Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 06-29-2011 10:10 PM:

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Originally posted by Gentry's English
he has not been sick and eyes are good he just got done with a bath right before the picture was taken. I might add the picture was snapped a little early I was lifting on this neck and head and think thats why he looks like he as a second "stop" on his head he's got a nice head. I just changed dog food on him I will try to get some more wight on him. He eats all he wants at feeding time and has about a cup of food left when he is done. I really ant starving him and he gets wormed when he needs. He lost 13 pounds when we started hunting him hard this summer.

this is what he was looking like before.



he is saving that cup for hunting time.good looking and smart


Posted by WHITEBREAD on 06-29-2011 10:17 PM:

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Originally posted by stonehill
A question has been brought up that I can't answer, that is what about a dog with ONE nut? You can't lie and say the dog is neutered,which is what You're suggesting He do if it has none.
As far as I'm concerned it should not show. But I really don't know about the rules.
Someone is going to come up with this ,so it might as well be Me:What about the dog that lost ONE in a hunting accident,or had cancer and had ONE removed. Anybody know the answer ???


i had one of my males nuetered due to the fact that my son smashed his testicals in the dog box door they swole up and never went down vet said best we nueter him now i dont think dogs should be fixed but i had no choice but i am still able to show him due to the rules that you can show if nuetered

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Posted by Gentry's English on 06-29-2011 10:45 PM:

thanks Lee.....

I wonder do you have to show any thing from a vet saying that he has been nutered like a person that is hard of hearing can do to use hearing devices in a hunt or dose any one ever ask. how dose it work?

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Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 06-29-2011 11:09 PM:

no , 2 or none 1 is out


Posted by stonehill on 06-29-2011 11:19 PM:

Thanks Lee ,but what about Hunting accident/injury rule could it apply here??? One could be lost to a fence or etc.


Posted by Lee Currens Jr. on 06-29-2011 11:20 PM:

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Originally posted by corky crowder
GOOD LOOKING IF HE HASNT WORE THE TOE NAILS DOWN CLIP THIM REAR PASTERNS SHOULD BE AT 90 DEGREES TO THE BENCH [ ALTOUGH IV SEEN DOGS WIN BIG SHOWS LOOKING WHOLE LOT WORSE THAN YOURS IN THAT PART] SHOULDNT HAVE ANY TROUBLE MAKING HIM GRAND AFTER LOOKING AT PIC AGIN COULD BE ANGLE OF PIC MAKING REAR PASTERNS LOOK LIKE THEY ARE LEANING FORWARD A LITTLE.


where in any breed standards does it talk about degree of any
angle?i would like to read it.thanks for your help.


Posted by Gentry's English on 06-29-2011 11:25 PM:

I have not seen it any where but I have had several people tell me this.... is it some thing that bench juge's like to see?

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Posted by stonehill on 06-30-2011 12:02 AM:

Gary, degree of angulation and the tiny round cat foot Vs. oval shaped well arched foot ( for greater propulsion ) are two subjects which have been debated since dog standards were first drawn up. It won't be settled here either !! Just keep working at it and You'll do fine !! Have fun !!!


Posted by Gentry's English on 06-30-2011 12:28 AM:

I will thanks

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Posted by ddavidson on 06-30-2011 12:37 AM:

Placed on the bench

Hi Gary,

Has he placed on the bench yet? i had my first shot with Ridge here a few weeks back, Had Lance, Brenda and Bj giving me pointers, he did really well considering I didnt know what I was doing. That dog of yours looks great!
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Posted by Gentry's English on 06-30-2011 12:44 AM:

Re: Placed on the bench

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Originally posted by ddavidson
Hi Gary,

Has he placed on the bench yet? i had my first shot with Ridge here a few weeks back, Had Lance, Brenda and Bj giving me pointers, he did really well considering I didnt know what I was doing. That dog of yours looks great!
D




Thanks Dan.... Yeah he is a show ch already But I want to grand him out and I also want to show him this year at A.O. so I am trying to learn all I can to try to give him his best chance.

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