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Posted by goodtimekennel on 03-21-2011 08:56 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Coonhunter82828
Right but the dog has to pass 3 hunts to get the HTX title. So the dog has to be a coon dog to pass 3 test to earn the title. Or some what of a coon dog. My female passed her first htx test this Saturday. Now she needs to pass 2 more.

THE KEY WORDS YOU SAID HERE IS
OR SOME WHAT OF A COON DOG...
i just dont think people should put much stock in the htx titles as they will mean nothing to me, just because your stud is a HTX ch does not mean i will breed or want a pup off of him, i want a go git treed quick be right loud stay put all night no trash holds pressure dog, i have owned hunted dogs who could tree coon an pass htx i wouldnt give $100 for any off them

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Posted by Hopkins/Lipper on 03-21-2011 08:57 PM:

What ever floats your boat..

I am not really trying to put down your accomplishments...But I guess growing up coonhunting ...part of the excitement was not that your dog could tree a coon but could he or she kick a$$ in the process against all odds !!!Who had the best in our end of the world Were they the best and could they prove it !!!!! Not OH YEA!!!!!!!!!! my dog can tree a racoon....Is that old school or the real world????

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Posted by bob logan on 03-21-2011 09:01 PM:

htx hunts

stick with it. htx is a good way to prove your dog. its gonna be bigger then some may think. its kinda nice. just you the dog and the judge. ukc nite hunts are good to this just another way to prove your dog.. good luck.

Posted by Hopkins/Lipper on 03-21-2011 09:06 PM:

Re: htx hunts

quote:
Originally posted by bob logan
stick with it. htx is a good way to prove your dog. its gonna be bigger then some may think. its kinda nice. just you the dog and the judge. ukc nite hunts are good to this just another way to prove your dog.. good luck.

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Go Probie you can do it !!!!!!!!!!!! I have a ten year old Doberman that will tree a few Easy coons but a long ways from a coon dog...I bet she could get an HYX !!!!!!!

Posted by Coonhunter82828 on 03-21-2011 09:08 PM:

Re: htx hunts

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Originally posted by bob logan
stick with it. htx is a good way to prove your dog. its gonna be bigger then some may think. its kinda nice. just you the dog and the judge. ukc nite hunts are good to this just another way to prove your dog.. good luck.

Thanks. I'm gonna keep pushing her in these hunts there slot of fun!!

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Posted by goodtimekennel on 03-21-2011 09:10 PM:

Re: htx hunts

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Originally posted by bob logan
stick with it. htx is a good way to prove your dog. its gonna be bigger then some may think. its kinda nice. just you the dog and the judge. ukc nite hunts are good to this just another way to prove your dog.. good luck.

so as long as old rock gets a coon treed its good even though he run backtrack for 10 min and mills around the tree HE IS A CH?? and that title tells me what?? here in ohio i have yet to see a me tooooo dog win my cast, oh yea and old rock he likes to whizzzzzzz on everything for 5 min to before he will hit the timber, oh yeaaa and hes gotta take 2 craps by this time a real dog is treed with the coon

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Posted by Hopkins/Lipper on 03-21-2011 09:16 PM:

Having Fun !!!!!

Guys...Having fun is what it is all about... Whatever it takes for
each of this to enjoy this sport is really all that is important. I have so many hours of fulfillment from it . I am not trying to put anyone down ...but just having some more fun from it ...

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Posted by tmanstonecold on 03-21-2011 09:54 PM:

I dont understand why everyone wants to bash someone for doing something that he or she enjoys. if someone thinks that passing a hunt test is easy, then just try one you may change your mind. I tried the regular hunts did pretty well but got tired of rough dogs and arguing" not all cast" just got tired of it. the pass rate on a hunt test is only about 33%. not to good, and this is all dogs not just open dogs... good luck to everyone in what ever type of hunting you choose............

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Posted by groworg1 on 03-21-2011 10:00 PM:

i like the idea of htx and will be doing some myself sounds like my kind of huntin i'm tired of hunting in hunts were fast dogs can and will run trash and tree trash and still win it's only a minus in reg.cast i've buddy hunted with many a trashy night champion hounds just because its a night champ don;t make it a coondog imo i think all night hunt entries should earn the right to be in a night hunt htx x 3 would keep that trash from huntin in the first place just how i see it!!!!

Posted by tmanstonecold on 03-21-2011 10:08 PM:

it may get rid of the trash problem but it wont get rid of the rough dogs, or the competitive guys who say win at all cost. no holds barred....

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Posted by Hopkins/Lipper on 03-21-2011 10:21 PM:

What does it prove ???

I do not understand what a dog treeing a coon on his own proves ...most country yard dogs can do the same... Doing it it style...Louder faster more accurate drown out the rest while doing it and better than the rest is what I was brought up to believe was what was the thrill of it all... and the true test of a real superior dog and one worthy of recognition and breeding to improve the breed.

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Posted by jamie stall on 03-21-2011 11:05 PM:

goodtimekennels

just because you make a nite champion doesnt mean **** either .

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Posted by tmanstonecold on 03-21-2011 11:11 PM:

I agree!!!! to many paper champion's, and its a shame I used to think that a nite champ or a grand nite was really a good dog, but since I have hunted with several of them there are alot that I wouldn't even pour a bowl of food in front of. I know that it doesn't mean all are no good but there are alot that are made by good handlers not good work.....

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Posted by Coonhunter82828 on 03-21-2011 11:16 PM:

Re: goodtimekennels

quote:
Originally posted by jamie stall
just because you make a nite champion doesnt mean **** either .

BINGO!!!

Posted by groworg1 on 03-22-2011 12:03 AM:

i know of a nite champ that when she was younger could flat out chase a fox around the hill 2or3 times and fall treed no coon but circle every time one smart dog always knew how to pick a circle tree she did tree coons but not my kind of dog

Posted by jackbob42 on 03-22-2011 12:16 AM:

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Originally posted by goodtimekennel
I DISAGREE JUST BECAUSE A DOG CAN TREE A COON DOESNT MAKE IT A COON DOG IN MY OPINON, I HAVE OWNED DOGS THAT WOULD TREE COON WERE THEY COON DOGS ? NOT IN MY KENNEL

Could they do it without making 3 mistakes?

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Posted by GA DAWG on 03-22-2011 12:18 AM:

Re: HTX ??????????????

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Originally posted by Hopkins/Lipper
What is HTX ...Fantisy Coonhunting ???????? Like a boxer too scared to get into the ring ???? what is the point????? I truly do not understand ..like a lot of things I do not understand these days ... guess I am showing my age LOL...

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LOL!!! I like that...The time to hunt one alone is during the week..Then take it to the big dance on the weekends! VERY VERY VERY VERY few times will a me to dog beat a COON dog...A htx title can also be put on a sorry dog that can tree a coon alone..Might trail around for 50 min but get treed as time runs out..That aint no coon dog! I've had culls tree coon alone but put em with another dog..Blowed there mind and was sorry as crap..A mean son of a gun can also pass a htx..About the only thing good I see about it is..Well nothing!

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Posted by jamie stall on 03-22-2011 12:41 AM:

THE BIG DANCE, IS THAT ALL 8 DOGS THAT SHOW UP AT EVERY HUNT. .

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Posted by EnglishBabe on 03-22-2011 12:49 AM:

I'm planning to enter my male Zam in his first one this coming weekend, why? For the fun of it. He don't have to prove nothing to me or the 50 or so people that have hunted with him. But it helps the clubs out and I get to spend time in the woods, enjoying the moment. To me it's all about the fun, friendship and the thrill of hearing your dog open up. You take the fun outta doing what you like to do, you soon ain't doing it.

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Posted by Coonhunter82828 on 03-22-2011 12:55 AM:

Re: Re: HTX ??????????????

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Originally posted by GA DAWG
LOL!!! I like that...The time to hunt one alone is during the week..Then take it to the big dance on the weekends! VERY VERY VERY VERY few times will a me to dog beat a COON dog...A htx title can also be put on a sorry dog that can tree a coon alone..Might trail around for 50 min but get treed as time runs out..That aint no coon dog! I've had culls tree coon alone but put em with another dog..Blowed there mind and was sorry as crap..A mean son of a gun can also pass a htx..About the only thing good I see about it is..Well nothing!

see that you just prooved how **** dumb you really are. If the dog does not tree the coon in 8 minutes after it opens up it will be faulted. If its mean it will be faulted and then failed. So no a dog can not trail a coon for 50 minutes and then tree it and pass. I think it's the other way around you night hunt folks are afraid to put your dogs in HTX hunts because they can tree a coon without 3 other dogs help.. mhmmmm..??

Posted by tripple river on 03-22-2011 01:54 AM:

do you guys really believe htx titles are given away to dogs just for treeing a coon? you still are playing by nite hunt rules just doing it without the help of other dogs.i have done both & believe the htx title just proves youre nt or gr nt dog is not counterfit. it takes all slick handling out of the end result.

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Posted by CoryHamby22 on 03-22-2011 02:02 AM:

coonhunter, I'm sorry to point out the obvious, but a dog is not required to be treed within 8 minutes of being struck. The dog is only required to bark a least once every 8 minutes while on track. In theory a dog could very weel trail for 74 minutes then be declared treed and still pass a hunt test. (RULE 4 B B) Open on Track - Dogs must open on track at least every 8 minutes. Dogs that tree without first opening on track will not be penalized, nor will they receive a pass on that track for the open trailing requirement. ALSO RULE 2 Dogs shall be hunted for one hour. If the dog is trailing as time runs out, hunting time may be extended for an additional 15 minutes if the dog has not completed the requirements for a pass during the hour. Dogs shall be picked up prior to completion of the hour for having committed two of the listed standard faults or the same standard fault on two separate occasions.

Posted by l.lyle on 03-22-2011 02:29 AM:

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Originally posted by CoryHamby22
coonhunter, I'm sorry to point out the obvious, but a dog is not required to be treed within 8 minutes of being struck. The dog is only required to bark a least once every 8 minutes while on track. In theory a dog could very weel trail for 74 minutes then be declared treed and still pass a hunt test. (RULE 4 B B) Open on Track - Dogs must open on track at least every 8 minutes. Dogs that tree without first opening on track will not be penalized, nor will they receive a pass on that track for the open trailing requirement. ALSO RULE 2 Dogs shall be hunted for one hour. If the dog is trailing as time runs out, hunting time may be extended for an additional 15 minutes if the dog has not completed the requirements for a pass during the hour. Dogs shall be picked up prior to completion of the hour for having committed two of the listed standard faults or the same standard fault on two separate occasions.

I'm glad you cleared that up. If I want to be confident of getting them within eight minutes I better hunt in Oct and Nov. Last time out they trailed about an hour and half and only went 1.8 miles here and yonder but were split 8 paces apart with coons.

Where's a link to the rules?

Posted by CoryHamby22 on 03-22-2011 03:22 AM:

rules

l.lyle, Go to the UKC homepage and click on upcoming events. You will see a drop box for choosing the type of event. Choose coonhound events. On the events page look to the right and you will see Licensed Hunt Test. Click on the hunt test. On the hunt test page you will see Rules & policies.

Posted by Jason Baldwin on 03-22-2011 03:46 AM:

Folks there are loopholes in nearly everything in life. Nearly every kind of test or competition in this entire world has some type of loop hole. I guess it boils down to personal integrity and values. If YOU know your dog earned it right , then YOU can be proud. Thats how I see it.

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