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Posted by Modawg1 on 01-09-2011 11:39 PM:

Re: Re: Walkers

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Originally posted by Traxx Addict
Your math isnt 100% correct.

There is no way of knowing the percentage of registered walkers that actually "make a coondog". Even when you compare the number of registered walkers, to those who place in the hunts, walkers win hands down. It isn't because there is more of them, it is because a higher percentage if them end up making a dog that can run and tree than the rival breeds.

I have started 6 walker pups in the last 2 years and all have made nice dogs. Two were sold for pretty nice money at less than 18 months of age. All were running and treeing before they were 10 months old.

I have also started 4 English and a bluetick and all weren't fit to kill and of the 5 , only one would/could run a track at one year of age.

You can scream "numbers" all you want...but I see a greater PERCENTAGE of walkers that have NATURAL ABILITY than any other breed....and I have hunted them all.

You may have hunted a dog or two of every breed but you haven't hunted every strain within every breed. I have hunted with good dogs of almost all the breeds and I have hunted with a lot of good walkers too but to say that you have hunted them all is very misleading to say the least.

Posted by Traxx Addict on 01-10-2011 12:51 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Walkers

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Originally posted by Modawg1
You may have hunted a dog or two of every breed but you haven't hunted every strain within every breed. I have hunted with good dogs of almost all the breeds and I have hunted with a lot of good walkers too but to say that you have hunted them all is very misleading to say the least.

We arent talking about "strains" within each breed. We are talking about BREEDS...not "strains".

Why is it I can hunt a Wipeout, Sackett, Rat, Lipper, or any other "strain" of Walker and a high percentage of them will make a decent coon hound if hunted. Yet certain strains of other breeds wont??

If that is the case, why are these other breeds still allowing these strains to be bred? What has allowed the other breeds to get worthless "strains"??

Why can I "eeny meeny, miney moe" a walker classifieds forum and get a high percentage shot at getting a dog that will have enough natural ability to tree a coon, yet i can be selective and by a English, B&T, Bluetick, etc and have to go thru 3-4 before I even find a pup at one year of age that will show any sign of natural, inborn ability at all?

Like I said earlier..I was born and raised hunting English and Blueticks....and the ones I have hunted in the last 5-10 years lacking in natural ability.

A neighbor of mine is a well known B&T man. he has a "strain" of B&T that is on many of the B7T studs listed in the magazines today. Every litter he raise for himself he keeps every pup and only sells the ones that, at 6 months of age, show a natural ability to run and tree. of the last 3 litters he has raised, he has sold 7 pups out of 26. The rest were culled.

The last 2 litters of Walkers I have raised, ALL were either making good dogs. A couple got killed on the road , one got hung at 6 months old in a fork of a tree it was treeing in, but they all were making dogs and were well on their way doing what they were bred to do.

In the last 3 years of starting walker pups I haven't had a single one that didn't start running and treeing early and that had the tools and natural ability. Why the difference in breeds??

Even the breed reports in the different magazines admit that the Walker breeders are decades ahead of the other breeds in breeding natural ability into their hounds.

Claiming that walkers are winning more because there is more of them is partially true...but there is a reason why there is MORE of them.

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Posted by Fireman Sam on 01-10-2011 01:34 AM:

Why did you BIG DUMMIES Hi-Jack the new guys post

we all know english would make better dogs doing some trash chasin then some Coon Huntin

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Good Luck to ya Mike I'm sure your english female will grab Every Fox she can out of those trees in Arizona, last time we were down there--they were real prickly lookin' but those english sure enough are Tough, you'll do great

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Posted by Modawg1 on 01-10-2011 03:46 AM:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Walkers

quote:
Originally posted by Traxx Addict
We arent talking about "strains" within each breed. We are talking about BREEDS...not "strains".

Why is it I can hunt a Wipeout, Sackett, Rat, Lipper, or any other "strain" of Walker and a high percentage of them will make a decent coon hound if hunted. Yet certain strains of other breeds wont??

If that is the case, why are these other breeds still allowing these strains to be bred? What has allowed the other breeds to get worthless "strains"??

Why can I "eeny meeny, miney moe" a walker classifieds forum and get a high percentage shot at getting a dog that will have enough natural ability to tree a coon, yet i can be selective and by a English, B&T, Bluetick, etc and have to go thru 3-4 before I even find a pup at one year of age that will show any sign of natural, inborn ability at all?

Like I said earlier..I was born and raised hunting English and Blueticks....and the ones I have hunted in the last 5-10 years lacking in natural ability.

A neighbor of mine is a well known B&T man. he has a "strain" of B&T that is on many of the B7T studs listed in the magazines today. Every litter he raise for himself he keeps every pup and only sells the ones that, at 6 months of age, show a natural ability to run and tree. of the last 3 litters he has raised, he has sold 7 pups out of 26. The rest were culled.

The last 2 litters of Walkers I have raised, ALL were either making good dogs. A couple got killed on the road , one got hung at 6 months old in a fork of a tree it was treeing in, but they all were making dogs and were well on their way doing what they were bred to do.

In the last 3 years of starting walker pups I haven't had a single one that didn't start running and treeing early and that had the tools and natural ability. Why the difference in breeds??

Even the breed reports in the different magazines admit that the Walker breeders are decades ahead of the other breeds in breeding natural ability into their hounds.

Claiming that walkers are winning more because there is more of them is partially true...but there is a reason why there is MORE of them.

Well my point is that you are basing your whole opinion of an entire breed of dogs on the few you have tried. I am going to stick my neck out and say that you probably will have a better chance of getting a natural tree dog in the Walker breed if you reach blindly into a hat and pick one out so I agree with you on that much. But I think there are strains of dogs in the other breeds that would do just as well or better if given the same chance. Perhaps you have had bad luck with the other strains of dogs within the breeds you have chosen to try.

Posted by Modawg1 on 01-10-2011 03:53 AM:

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Originally posted by mike berger
She must have had a bad day, because she is doing good now, was first dog to the tree and snatched the fox as soon as he hit the ground. Bring on the lion and bear....and, thanks to those who offered constructive advice. Mike

That's great. I have found that if you give them some time and patience, they usually straighten out. On the other hand, if one backtracks consistently night after night for a dozen nights or so, Then I would get a new dog. Good Luck!

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