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Posted by Traxx Addict on 12-26-2010 02:59 PM:

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Originally posted by skeeterhawk7
Now all we have to ponder about is Congress passing new laws to TRY to take our rights to own firearms away from us!

Democrats are on the record saying if/when they could get enough votes to ban ALL firearms...they would do it.

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Posted by bandithunter on 12-26-2010 07:55 PM:

CoonCaptain, you won't get an argument outa me on Vietnam, we won every battle, yet lost the war. The hippies, etc. that you speak of are my generation ,and the sad part is now they are running this country and for that I apologize. The point I was making is this. The Vietnam war started in the late thirties against the Japanese, then the French, then the Americans and when it was all said and done the Vietnamese were the last man standing. I believe there are enough good men in this country who are willing to die on their feet,rather than live on their knees.

Posted by bond007 on 12-26-2010 09:07 PM:

It kills me to think anyone still think they are covered by the constitution.

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens of mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913) “Hypothecated” all property within the Federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. Citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a “beneficiary” of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the Federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets, and labor of their “subjects,” the 14th Amendment U.S. Citizen to the Federal Reserve System. In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States Corporation all of the credit “money substitute” it needed.

Like any debtor, the Federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the Federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their “economic slaves,” the U.S. Citizens, as collateral against the federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks, forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the People have exchanged one master for another.”

In 1944, Washington D.C. was deeded to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) by the Breton Woods Agreement. The IMF is made up of wealthy people that own most of the banking industries of the world. It is an organized group of bankers that have taken control of most governments of the world so the bankers run the world. Congress, the IRS, and the President work for the IMF. The IRS is not a U.S. government agency. It is an agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)

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Posted by bond007 on 12-26-2010 09:11 PM:

However you can choose remedy. You can accually remove yourself from being a 14 admendment cit and become a 9th admendment cit.

Posted by bond007 on 12-26-2010 09:13 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Traxx Addict
Democrats are on the record saying if/when they could get enough votes to ban ALL firearms...they would do it.

the reason they haven't is because they know they would have'ft to take them.

Posted by Okie Dawg on 12-27-2010 01:44 AM:

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Originally posted by Traxx Addict
Democrats are on the record saying if/when they could get enough votes to ban ALL firearms...they would do it.

Do you agree with everything the republicans has said. That is the problem with lables and that is why they keep putting them on every group. It simply devides us. I think the people of this nation should grow up and quit letting them devide us. I have stounch republicans as customers that I can find middle ground were we agree. There should be only one lable and that is AMERICAN. After that you should have to sit down and talk or vote to see what the majority thinks. Not devided into two groups and one is right and the other is wrong.

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Posted by Traxx Addict on 12-27-2010 01:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
Do you agree with everything the republicans has said. That is the problem with lables and that is why they keep putting them on every group. It simply devides us. I think the people of this nation should grow up and quit letting them devide us. I have stounch republicans as customers that I can find middle ground were we agree. There should be only one lable and that is AMERICAN. After that you should have to sit down and talk or vote to see what the majority thinks. Not devided into two groups and one is right and the other is wrong.

Okie..Your guys are good at labeling people... "nazis", "Astroturf"...Calling former military "potential terrorists", Threatening them with paid Union hacks who atatck the elderly and disabled at meetings....etc,.etc.

YOUR chosen "side" has labeled people for years. From class warfare, to the race debate, YOUR side has labeled and divided this country for decades. Study history and see for yourself.

I am a CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN. I believe in THE CONSTITUTION and what our founding fathers intended Govt to be used for....nothing more, nothing less.

Sorry, but I cannot find common ground with ANYONE who supports the right of a woman to murder her unborn child.

I cannot find "common ground" with anyone who overlooks a mans written and recorded past ..his affiliation with TERRORISTS, MARXISTS, COMMUNISTS, etc...not to mention his lifle long hatred and belittling of this country.

Sorry..but there is "right and wrong". ....and some of us are man enough and AMERICAN enough to know the difference.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 12-27-2010 02:24 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Traxx Addict
Okie..Your guys are good at labeling people... "nazis", "Astroturf"...Calling former military "potential terrorists", Threatening them with paid Union hacks who atatck the elderly and disabled at meetings....etc,.etc.

YOUR chosen "side" has labeled people for years. From class warfare, to the race debate, YOUR side has labeled and divided this country for decades. Study history and see for yourself.

I am a CONSERVATIVE AMERICAN. I believe in THE CONSTITUTION and what our founding fathers intended Govt to be used for....nothing more, nothing less.

Sorry, but I cannot find common ground with ANYONE who supports the right of a woman to murder her unborn child.

I cannot find "common ground" with anyone who overlooks a mans written and recorded past ..his affiliation with TERRORISTS, MARXISTS, COMMUNISTS, etc...not to mention his lifle long hatred and belittling of this country.

Sorry..but there is "right and wrong". ....and some of us are man enough and AMERICAN enough to know the difference.

Didn't take the time to read all your post becouse I have no guys. I think you need to grow up if you do. Read that constitution some time. It try to protect a democracy but we haven't had one a long time. The people dont count in this country becouse they are to devided. People should vote for the man and not the title. I my self have voted for republican president about the same as demicrats.

By the way you must not be old enough to remember when abortion was not leagle. I am and it wasn't pretty to see young women die from trying to give there self an abortion with a cloths hanger. Maybe if you get tied up and impregnated from some great big guy in the dark you will be able to love and cherish the child but some can't and should have the choice.

Posted by truly on 12-27-2010 02:55 AM:

bandithunter makes an excellent point regarding Vietnam. It is virtually impossible to subdue an enemy in their own backyard. The Vietnamese beat back a larger and more well funded army that had superior firepower and logistical support. Afghanistan beat back the Russians, and is now beating back U.S. troops. It has been said before, I will say it again, Afghanistan is where Empires go to die.
Spending over $one trillion dollars per year on military expenditures is a luxury afforded by only a very wealthy nation. We are no longer a wealthy nation. We are a nation with wealthy individuals, but it seems no one wants to make a sacrifice and pay any more in taxes to fund our nations budget. As long as we remain a nation with wealthy individuals, rather than a wealthy nation, every dollar that we spend on military expense is a dollar not spent on the critical needs of our citizens.
I believe that our citizenry would be capable of defending itself if we were ever invaded by a foreign power. As citizens, what we can not defend ourselves against is the reckless spending by our government. In my opinion, we are more at risk of economic collapse than we are of military invasion.
In this next session of congress we are going to hear "cut, cut, cut". But they will never suggest cutting military expense. They trust that you are stupid enough to not be able to understand simple math, and that you will keep yourselves preoccupied arguing about women's reproductive issues and gun ownership issues rather than note that the wealthy are committing acts of class warfare against you and I, and are robbing you and I right underneath our own noses.
SO keep on fighting for tax cuts for the wealthy, cutting funding of education, transportation, infrastructure, food safety, social safety nets, and just see where that gets YOU in the end. It is gonna work out great for them.

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Posted by Traxx Addict on 12-27-2010 03:02 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
It try to protect a democracy but we haven't had one a long time.

You need to educate yourself a little but. America is a REPUBLIC..Not a "Democracy"

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg

By the way you must not be old enough to remember when abortion was not leagle. I am and it wasn't pretty to see young women die from trying to give there self an abortion with a cloths hanger. Maybe if you get tied up and impregnated from some great big guy in the dark you will be able to love and cherish the child but some can't and should have the choice.

First off...No country should never legalize MURDER. Being a CHRISTIAN..I no better than to go along with that immoral ideology. The Bible says to choose life so that you and your child can live. Nuff said.

Secondly..Why should a child whose father committed a crime be sentenced to death for the crimes of his father??

A child is a child...No matter how he was conceived.

Morals, Common sense, and character are in short supply these days.

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Posted by Traxx Addict on 12-27-2010 03:09 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by truly

SO keep on fighting for tax cuts for the wealthy, cutting funding of education, transportation, infrastructure, food safety, social safety nets, and just see where that gets YOU in the end. It is gonna work out great for them.

Way to sugarcoat and deceive people Truly..Your kind are well adapted for doing that.

The more $$ we have thrown at Education, the worse it gets in this country. The teachers Unions have taken a honored profession and turned it into a way to brainwash children and dumb down our population.

Fine..Let's use our tax dollars to fund roads, infrastructure, food safety, and the extreme poor and widowed and disabled...I am all for it.

But while we are at it lets cut the WASTE and PORK AND LIBERAL PROJECTS that have and are crippling this country.

Under Obama the Federal Govt is getting bigger, it;s employees getting richer, and the taxpaying class of citizens that fund 90% of the politicians "slush funds" are getting fewer and fewer.

BTW... taxing the "rich" never increased jobs and Govt revenues.

CUTTING TAXES and encouraging the "rich" to invest back into the economy and their businesses is what creates jobs and a booming economy.

Decades of well documented proof is there to back this up. When will your kind ever learn? Or do you even want to learn?

Obama and the Progressives follow the mantra of "Cloward and Piven" They purposely wanted to overload the debt of the taxpayers and collapse our economy with massive spending programs....

Enter Obama, stage right.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 12-27-2010 03:14 AM:

Bible allso says not to judge so I guess we will both go to hell. See ya there....................By the way do you have your name up on the list to raise all the unwanted children. You didn't say anything about all the children that try to give there self an abortion and die in the bath tub either. Oh yea I 'll bet your not old enough to remember those.
You judge and I will give them the choice and let God judge them when they die.

Posted by Traxx Addict on 12-27-2010 03:15 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by truly
bandithunter makes an excellent point regarding Vietnam. It is virtually impossible to subdue an enemy in their own backyard. The Vietnamese beat back a larger and more well funded army that had superior firepower and logistical support. Afghanistan beat back the Russians, and is now beating back U.S. troops. It has been said before, I will say it again, Afghanistan is where Empires go to die.
Spending over $one trillion dollars per year on military expenditures is a luxury afforded by only a very wealthy nation. We are no longer a wealthy nation. We are a nation with wealthy individuals, but it seems no one wants to make a sacrifice and pay any more in taxes to fund our nations budget. As long as we remain a nation with wealthy individuals, rather than a wealthy nation, every dollar that we spend on military expense is a dollar not spent on the critical needs of our citizens.
I believe that our citizenry would be capable of defending itself if we were ever invaded by a foreign power. As citizens, what we can not defend ourselves against is the reckless spending by our government. In my opinion, we are more at risk of economic collapse than we are of military invasion.
In this next session of congress we are going to hear "cut, cut, cut". But they will never suggest cutting military expense. They trust that you are stupid enough to not be able to understand simple math, and that you will keep yourselves preoccupied arguing about women's reproductive issues and gun ownership issues rather than note that the wealthy are committing acts of class warfare against you and I, and are robbing you and I right underneath our own noses.

Dont you love the way Liberals lie, deceive, and call people names??

Truly,I hate to break this to you but the upper 10% pay 3/4 of the taxes in this country. How much more do you want them to pay??

The only people committing class warfare id the people Truly stands with who constantly has to divide people into classes of wealth, race, and other issues they want to use to hide their Anti American tactics.

Socialists/Progressives like Truly cannot be honest and come right and and tell you why they are the way they are. if they did their charade would be over and people would see them for what they are.

Look no further than Obama, his racist pastor, Maxine Waters, Bernie Sanders and the other admitted Socialists in D.C. and you will see where they what direction they want this country to head.

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Posted by truly on 12-27-2010 03:19 AM:

Traxx, you must be honest and recognize that Bush doubled our national debt, and that Obama has actually modestly trimmed our annual deficits from where Bush left them.
Obama has plenty of faults, but he has already shown himself to be slightly better than Bush at managing budgetary issues.
I disagree with your view about "throwing money at education". We will not be able to compete in a global economy without well educated citizens. ANd education does not come for free. Not that there aren't areas where our public school system could cut back. All sports could be cut at the high school level, our state colleges could cut out their sports programs, lots of room to make cuts. Unfortunately the only thing that gets brought up is teacher pay scale.

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Posted by Traxx Addict on 12-27-2010 03:20 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
Bible allso says not to judge

Actually it doesn't...it says to judge others in the same righteous judgement you will be judged by. it also tells us to not allow those who teach false gospels and serve false gods in our homes or even bid them "godspeed". How do you do that and not "judge".

I suggest you read and study the Bible before you start quoting it.

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
You didn't say anything about all the children that try to give there self an abortion and die in the bath tub either.

The Bible says Death is the wages of Sin...it is SAD that that has happened. But it doenst make it right for a country to legalize murdering the unborn our of convenience.

Heck, Obama sends our TAX DOLLARS overseas to fund abortions in foreign countries.. Why is that??

Why are Democrats so hellbent on seeing more children murdered??

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Posted by Traxx Addict on 12-27-2010 03:25 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by truly
Traxx, you must be honest and recognize that Bush doubled our national debt, and that Obama has actually modestly trimmed our annual deficits from where Bush left them.

YEP..Bush increased them..right along with a DEM controlled house and Senate writing the spending bills with NO involvement of 99% of the Republicans.

Bush was YOUR KIND..A "Progressive"

quote:
Originally posted by truly
Obama has plenty of faults, but he has already shown himself to be slightly better than Bush at managing budgetary issues.

Your blinder than a bat flying backwards...

Obama has outspent Bush and increased our national debt 3 fold..maybe more.

quote:
Originally posted by truly
I disagree with your view about "throwing money at education". We will not be able to compete in a global economy without well educated citizens. And education does not come for free.

If you disagree then you are wrong. The Dem party and the Liberal ran NEA has fought for lower standards for student performance for decades. I come from a family of educators and they will all tell you the same thing. The Dem arty and the DOE have RUINED our education system. Turn it back over to the states and local control and do away with the DOE.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 12-27-2010 04:01 AM:

So who's fault was it that the country was so messed up when the Rep.s were in controll for so long? That is when we got into this mess. Not that I say the rep.s for all at fault. The dem's when along with some of the worst things passed.

As far as the Vietnam thing. It wasn't a war. We haven't been in a war since world war II. A police action isn't something you win. You go into a country and try to keep the peace. You don't win or loose any more than our police do here. They keep the peace as best they can and protect the people as best they can but there is no win or loss. There is only to stay and try to keep the peace till the other government can hold there own peace.
That is why I don't think we should send our military any were unless there is a declaration of war made against who we are fighting. Then we fight by a whole new set of rules and AMERICA WILL WIN AND OUR SOLDIERS CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES TO THE BEST OF THERE ABILITY.

By the way these wars were fought and soldiers died for the right to be the one to CHOOSE what happens to there own bodies too.

Posted by Traxx Addict on 12-27-2010 12:50 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
So who's fault was it that the country was so messed up when the Rep.s were in controll for so long?

When were they in control with a super majority like the Dems have had for several years now??

All of the HUGE, MASSIVE spending bills were written, sponsored and passed with a Dem majority and a handful of RINO Republicans based on a "crisis" the Dem's created and deceived the American people with.

it was the DEM arty that allowed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to create and cause the housing crisis. They hid the facts and terrible lending policies of "Fannie and Freddie" even during hearing called by Republicans to investigate the housing collapse they foreseen.

Okie Dawg.....as for Abortion,You cannot morally justify ending the life of an unborn child for ANY reason other than the very miniscule, extremely rare chance it would take the life of the mother.
The Bible I read very plainly says that when people have been turned loose by God , they are allowed to believe lies and follow false beliefs and teachings and they lose all of their natural love for their children and fellow man. They are given over to a "Reprobate mind".

I cold never imagine being so cold, heartless, callous, and far from god that I could even begin to try and justify allowing someone to murder an innocent child.

The Bible says someone who harms an innocent child would be better off to hang a millstone around their next and be cast into the sea.

Those who support and purposely vote for people who vote to protect abortion rights will stand before God with the blood of millions on their hands.

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 12-27-2010 04:03 PM:

I am not afraid to stand before god today..................

Posted by Traxx Addict on 12-27-2010 05:59 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Okie Dawg
I am not afraid to stand before god today..................

Famous last words.

The beginning of knowledge is the fear of God.
The evry fact that you can openly misquote Bible scripture and then have the callousness to support abortion is proof you are as lost as a ball in high weeds.

Excuse my straightforwardness, but I live in an area of the country where preachers still preach the Bible as it is written and dont pull punches to keep the offering plates full.

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Posted by Traxx Addict on 12-28-2010 06:58 PM:

The worst congress in US history now has something to brag about :

"111th Congress(DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED) Added More Debt Than First 100 Congresses Combined: $10,429 Per Person in U.S."

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...debt-first-100#

And we know who WON'T be paying it back. In order to pay your "fair share", you'd have to pay taxes. That counts out many, if not most, democrat supporters.

The pic below is a perfect example of what the Democrats are doing to this country. Those pulling the load are being overwhelmed.

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Posted by truly on 12-29-2010 06:37 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Traxx Addict

Truly,I hate to break this to you but the upper 10% pay 3/4 of the taxes in this country. How much more do you want them to pay??

SUre we pay nearly 3/4ths of taxes, but it is because we make nearly 3/4ths of all of the income.
After you posted this a few days ago, I did a little checking on statistics from official IRS and government info. If you are part of a household that has an AGI [adjusted gross income] of over $130,000 annually, then you are a top 10%. Average top 10%ers pay right around 18.7% tax rate.

So that means my household [with an AGI of around $150,000] will pay close to 27,000 in taxes this year. Leaving us to have to live off of a measly tiny little bit of money- around 123,000$ per year.

YIKES! How will I be able to live off of only $123,000$ this year!! Oh my gosh how I will suffer! There is no way that I could afford to pay another 2-4% more in income tax! If I paid 2-4% more in taxes this year I would have only 119,000$ or so to live off of.

Traxx,
I hope you can recognize sarcasm when you see it. I CAN AFFORD TO LIVE OFF OF $123,000 PER YEAR, OR $119,000 PER YEAR, OR GOD FORBID I COULD EVEN LIVE OFF OF $100,000 PER YEAR. Most any top ten%er could afford to pay more in taxes. Most of us would be happy to. We understand that we aren't that different than our friends who make 20-40,000 per year. We have just been a little more fortunate to land the right career, not have health challenges that keep us from work, and have a little better work ethics than some others. Heck, some top ten %ers don't even have that great of work ethics!
If we can't afford to pitch in and pay a little more, then who can?
My guess is you aren't a top ten%er. If you were you would know just how easy it is to make $120,000+ put food on the table. And if I am wrong, and you are a top ten%er, and you are struggling to put food on your table despite having over $10,000 per month in your family budget, then you maybe should start listening to Dave Ramsey or some other financial advice person and get your money in order. Cause look all around you- there are lots of folks getting by on very little.

I love my country, and am willing to help pay for it.

The Tea Partiers kept saying that they wanted to "take their country back". You can't take greatness. You have to earn it. Greatness is not cheap and it isn't easy. If we are ever gonna have it again, we are going to have to work hard and work together to get it. I am telling you that I am here and ready to do my part.

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Posted by l.lyle on 12-29-2010 07:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by bond007
It kills me to think anyone still think they are covered by the constitution.

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens of mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913) “Hypothecated” all property within the Federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. Citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a “beneficiary” of the trust via his/her birth certificate. In 1933, the Federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets, and labor of their “subjects,” the 14th Amendment U.S. Citizen to the Federal Reserve System. In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States Corporation all of the credit “money substitute” it needed.

Like any debtor, the Federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan. Since the Federal United States didn’t have any assets, they assigned the private property of their “economic slaves,” the U.S. Citizens, as collateral against the federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national parks, forests, birth certificates, and nonprofit organizations as collateral against the federal debt. All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution feudal roots whereby all land is held by a sovereign and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property. Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank. We the People have exchanged one master for another.”

In 1944, Washington D.C. was deeded to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) by the Breton Woods Agreement. The IMF is made up of wealthy people that own most of the banking industries of the world. It is an organized group of bankers that have taken control of most governments of the world so the bankers run the world. Congress, the IRS, and the President work for the IMF. The IRS is not a U.S. government agency. It is an agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)

My hat is off to you Sir , you are evidently a citizen of Self Study, because you could never have discovered those truths in the Pubic Education System. They cannot teach it because they do not know it and the reason they do not know it is because they have not been taaaught it and the reason the teachers that are allowed to teach must take exams that would discover if they ever knew that or even considered it. Again, my hat is off to you. And we can be arrested by a 20 year old cop that aint got a clue.

Posted by l.lyle on 12-29-2010 07:44 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by truly
SUre we pay nearly 3/4ths of taxes, but it is because we make nearly 3/4ths of all of the income.
After you posted this a few days ago, I did a little checking on statistics from official IRS and government info. If you are part of a household that has an AGI [adjusted gross income] of over $130,000 annually, then you are a top 10%. Average top 10%ers pay right around 18.7% tax rate.

So that means my household [with an AGI of around $150,000] will pay close to 27,000 in taxes this year. Leaving us to have to live off of a measly tiny little bit of money- around 123,000$ per year.

YIKES! How will I be able to live off of only $123,000$ this year!! Oh my gosh how I will suffer! There is no way that I could afford to pay another 2-4% more in income tax! If I paid 2-4% more in taxes this year I would have only 119,000$ or so to live off of.

Traxx,
I hope you can recognize sarcasm when you see it. I CAN AFFORD TO LIVE OFF OF $123,000 PER YEAR, OR $119,000 PER YEAR, OR GOD FORBID I COULD EVEN LIVE OFF OF $100,000 PER YEAR. Most any top ten%er could afford to pay more in taxes. Most of us would be happy to. We understand that we aren't that different than our friends who make 20-40,000 per year. We have just been a little more fortunate to land the right career, not have health challenges that keep us from work, and have a little better work ethics than some others. Heck, some top ten %ers don't even have that great of work ethics!
If we can't afford to pitch in and pay a little more, then who can?
My guess is you aren't a top ten%er. If you were you would know just how easy it is to make $120,000+ put food on the table. And if I am wrong, and you are a top ten%er, and you are struggling to put food on your table despite having over $10,000 per month in your family budget, then you maybe should start listening to Dave Ramsey or some other financial advice person and get your money in order. Cause look all around you- there are lots of folks getting by on very little.

I love my country, and am willing to help pay for it.

The Tea Partiers kept saying that they wanted to "take their country back". You can't take greatness. You have to earn it. Greatness is not cheap and it isn't easy. If we are ever gonna have it again, we are going to have to work hard and work together to get it. I am telling you that I am here and ready to do my part.

You are so right. "You can't take greatness, you have to EARN IT.

Is it the Government incum tax that made us great? Please answer that so that a coon hunter may understand. Does the Government Userpe the poweres of The Religions that atheist believe do not exist BUT the good that they would provide could be taken over by a benefactor called Uncle Sam.? ( Complete with all the prayers and thankfulness and conscience of Morons to keep them bowing at the alter of Government instead of God). And if that arguement is ever won, please elaborate on the virtues of the THe Separation of Church and STATE. Take your assignment from me seriously. You are in danger of receiving a failing grade.!!

Posted by Traxx Addict on 12-29-2010 01:31 PM:

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Originally posted by truly
Sure we pay nearly 3/4ths of taxes, but it is because we make nearly 3/4ths of all of the income.

"YOU LIE".

The top 50% of wage earners pay over 97% of all taxes paid to the federal Govt.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html

Why do you constantly lie Truly?? Why must you deceive people to hide your real agenda??

How much EXTRA money have you aid in to the federal Govt because you thought you should pay them more?

Tell us a dollar amount please.,,,and if at all possible..BE HONEST.

I grossed quite a bit more than you last year...But I employee 2-3 people all year long. How many people do you employee and pay Truly?

Do you not realize that the backbone of this economy is people making $150,000- $250,000 a year are the ones employing OTHER PEOPLE. They have more to pay after taxes are paid than just themselves.

It is obvious you haven't got a clue about running a business that employees people. Not to mention you deceptively left out the state taxes and local taxes that also come out of that "$123,000"

Once again you have been proven to be a liar and purposely deceptive to help justify your Anti American agenda.

Plus....Show us in the constitution where one class of people is supposed to pay more in taxes than the other..And while you are at it show us where people are entitled to more and more of my money each year.

Increasing taxes NEVER increases revenues.

Increasing Taxes NEVER created Jobs

Increasing Taxes NEVER does anything but makes the Govt grow and want MORE money.

quote:
Originally posted by truly
I love my country, and am willing to help pay for it.

AGAIN..Tell us how much extra you have sent in to the Govt when you pay your taxes each year...BE HONEST.

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Originally posted by truly

The Tea Partiers kept saying that they wanted to "take their country back". You can't take greatness. You have to earn it. Greatness is not cheap and it isn't easy. If we are ever gonna have it again, we are going to have to work hard and work together to get it. I am telling you that I am here and ready to do my part.

So doing your art was helping elect and support a man and corrupt, Anti American party who stood on the campaign slogan of fundamentally transforming" this country, openly promising to make "energy prices skyrocket", and to "bankrupt companies".

Barak Hussein Obama (his muslim name) has NEVER held a real job...he has never created jobs in the private sector, and he hasn't got a clue how to create the first job. he is OPPOSED to creating jobs. His political icons were as well.

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