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what i said might not work for everybody...my female would just do it on the first drop...after that she would be fine...now she is the most accurate dog ive hunted with...its all how you train them...

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way i do it if it aint got a coon i kick its butt if its got a coon i love on um an give them praise if its a circle jerk it off ruff dont kick its butt to hard walk off quiet wont take to long for them to see whats funner an dont hurt as much

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Originally posted by joseph mcdonald
Every one talks about natural ability and this and that, and these guys on this post are talking about man making a coon hound to get it enjoyable enough to hunt, then they all run out and breed to it, and wonder why there pups are 50 percent accurate????????? SIMPLY AMAZES ME!!

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when i go to the tree and look and cant find the coon and it isnt a den i wip the fire out of them at a young age it works for me

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Yea i get bluetick that way you don't have to worry about going to any slick trees or I guess any trees at all!!!! I give blue dogs a break there is one good strain pounder but thats it.

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Get a better track dog sir. And break him off Squirrels.

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Try checking your dog in the snow or mud if possible, see if maybe he or she is back tracking. I had a pup a while back that never took the time to see which way the coon went he would flat fly on track to start out and then get slower until he couldnt run it anymore and he would just pull up treed. Hunted him in the snow and the track doesnt lie.

i done tried too get a blue dog to stop the slick treeing problem but the blue dog never even made a tree so what good is that, if you hunt a blue you aint got a clue

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Originally posted by KELDON
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Joseph McDonald and Psiskjr nailed it, upgrade your dogs. I score with a rifle and I don't have this problem. Liars in men or dogs I can't abide.

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There are a lot of answers to this question all ready, but how old is the dog and how much experience does the dog have? I agree with some of the reasons given as far as squirrel or lack of tracking ability. But, do you have the resourses to upgrade, how often does he slick tree, are you wanting to breed the dog, and are you looking to pleasure hunt or competition hunt are all things that you need to determine in what you want to do with this dog. I have seen infections of some sort mess with a dogs nose and throw it off. One thing that I would suggest is to put a handle on the dog. When you want to leave the tree to recast, you can verbally get the dog to come off the tree and go on without putting a leadstrap on the dog. If the dog has that much "tree" in it, that won't effect it's staying power but will help the dog learn by itself what to do when you are not there.

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Originally posted by ov_blues
There are a lot of answers to this question all ready, but how old is the dog and how much experience does the dog have? I agree with some of the reasons given as far as squirrel or lack of tracking ability. But, do you have the resourses to upgrade, how often does he slick tree, are you wanting to breed the dog, and are you looking to pleasure hunt or competition hunt are all things that you need to determine in what you want to do with this dog. I have seen infections of some sort mess with a dogs nose and throw it off. One thing that I would suggest is to put a handle on the dog. When you want to leave the tree to recast, you can verbally get the dog to come off the tree and go on without putting a leadstrap on the dog. If the dog has that much "tree" in it, that won't effect it's staying power but will help the dog learn by itself what to do when you are not there.

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Originally posted by john Duemmer
I think it depends on the dog. Some just have to much tree and when they make a lose they cant help but grab a tree, and they know they dont have a coon. This type dog i think can sometimes be helped with a little disapline. The other type is a dog that just lacks tracking ability or brains and he believes he has the coon, this dog is probably hopeless.

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Originally posted by joseph mcdonald
The person who posted right above this post is absolutley right on 100 percent.

Every one talks about natural ability and this and that, and these guys on this post are talking about man making a coon hound to get it enjoyable enough to hunt, then they all run out and breed to it, and wonder why there pups are 50 percent accurate????????? SIMPLY AMAZES ME!!

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Guys, I am in no way saying that slick treeing is acceptable. He just ask how to fix it. It can be fixed in some dogs, just depends on how much you are willing to put up with in the process. They have to be smart, you have to hunt the crap out of them, and they have to be outstanding in a lot of other departments before I am going to spend my time doing it. I've done it with 3 different dogs that went on to place high at major events & I'm not a big time competition hunter by any means. They all had one thing in common when they were finished, they were extremely accurate and could tree coons that other dogs didn't know existed. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but I don't think anyone wants to walk to slick trees.

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Originally posted by joseph mcdonald
The person who posted right above this post is absolutley right on 100 percent.

Every one talks about natural ability and this and that, and these guys on this post are talking about man making a coon hound to get it enjoyable enough to hunt, then they all run out and breed to it, and wonder why there pups are 50 percent accurate????????? SIMPLY AMAZES ME!!






but whens this going to stop? they r breeding them everyday

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Originally posted by l.lyle
Probably so! and maybe the reason is IS that you bought the whole package That this dog is cloned up to be like a retrieving lab. Just hunt the uneducated by it's lonesome and it bee's breed so good , it just cant go wrong LOL IS that what you did? OR , Did you hunt it with another lier to train it in it's lieing ways? At this point you got a lier and in my opinion, just like a young juvenile with a short RAP sheet,It can't be fixed. You just discovered it early enough to put it away where it can do no harm. Even if you you could force it to be honest for awhile, it will go back to it's lieing noaccount ways. But why don't you look on the brighter side of life and keep that lier, because YOU will prove me wrong. And after after 5 years of feeding a no-good p-ant , you do what you should have done now?

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your comparing apples to oranges

a dog if hunted enough will learn your likes and dislikes show him what you like and what you dont like alot of the walker breed has to much tree power not enough track driving ability i like the track power and a lil tree power jmo

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Originally posted by joseph mcdonald
The person who posted right above this post is absolutley right on 100 percent.

Every one talks about natural ability and this and that, and these guys on this post are talking about man making a coon hound to get it enjoyable enough to hunt, then they all run out and breed to it, and wonder why there pups are 50 percent accurate????????? SIMPLY AMAZES ME!!

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Okie Dawg, I'm gonna take the high road here and explain a few things...................................

1. I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE TELLS ME GENETICS IS 80% OF THE EQUATION.

2. This thread is about fixing slick treeing problems.

3. No matter how you break or train, fiddle with, fine tune, give the dog a blood transfusion etc,etc, it got everything it has from its momma and daddy and ancestors.

4. A man can hunt with and breed to what he chooses, I believe thats just part of being an american.

5. Just watch this thread and some others, some of these same guys saying they want a dog to slick, will be bit*hing about that same type of dog on another thread.

6. If you think there arent lines of hounds that arent loaded with a bunch of faults, that make training them easier, you either havent fooled with enough of them or arent looking very hard. If you pm me and act like a gentleman, I will gladly give you contact numbers of guys that raise hounds that you dont have to whip of slicks till theyre 3 years old.

I didn't mean to afend you and I know there are a lot of well bred hounds that are a lot easier to train than others. There are problem children in all of them and seems like there are so many on here that jumps to shoot the dog and get a better bred on. Well you get a dog at a year old and there are is no telling how it has been handled and no matter how well it has been bred you may have a few problems with it.
I would guess that a lot of the problems ask about on here is ask by people new in hunting and got the best dog they could find. So it is my opinion they shouldn't be told just to shoot the dog. The first dog you train isn't going to be the best one you ever own. They are going to make mistakes and I lie to help solve there problem with that dog. Not just tell them to shoot the dog.
There has been a lot of dogs that have had problems and went on to make a good if not a great hound. If you look at the great studs and the percentage of there pups that get titled you would have to know some got into sorry hands that just shot them becouse they didn't just fall under the first coon they came to.
In short I guess I just think a man shouldn't tell a kid to shoot his dog becouse it slick trees. Come hunt here right now. It has been powder dry for a long time and if you don't have a GOOD old seasoned houd you aren't going to find one if it leaves the creek and yep you will get more slicks than normal.
A lot of people think they are old feeder tracks there dog is running but it is just a track in extremely dry conditions. Air scenting isn't even worth a darn most nights becouse of the dry air.

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