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Posted by jamie stall on 11-24-2010 11:04 PM:

nate m

IM calling you out if you think anyone on here believes that you killed 40 pd coons that is a crock of **** ive huntrd in wisconsin and yes there are big coon but your scale is about 10 lbs off


Posted by Jeff M. on 11-24-2010 11:30 PM:

Blckrivred,
Your post's are right on! I've been friends with a fur buyer for over thirty years and they have an ave. that they are determined to keep as you described perfectly. But it didn't help me from still feeling that they were taking advantage of us ol' coonhunters. But now after 6 years of sending my furs to nafa I got a whole new respect for the buyer. They have alot of overhead costs knives, stretcher's, labor to put up the coons plus heat and storage and every bullet hole, dog bite mark, etc cost you about 2 bucks each. And "SIZE MATTER'S" the Dakota's, Neb,Minn, Wis, Iowa, are the top coons in the sale. The smaller coons usually cost you money in the long run and i'm talking Northern IN small which is a biggun' for alot of southerner's.. but us great lake area cooner's will sneak a few biggun's in the top lots and usually you will double your ave. from what the local level guy is paying. I enjoy it and seeing how hard the fur's are graded on the world stage is an eye opener. You should do well on your MI coons just remember that every 10 cent hunk of lead you put in them will cost you 2$ and you'll be alright!! I recommend anyone who is unhappy with their buyer get out your fleshin' knife and stretcher's and take a gamble on the market yourself!! It will give you a whole new perspective on the fur business!! Happy Huntin'!! Jeff


Posted by bandithunter on 11-25-2010 03:55 PM:

Don't be too hard on old Nate, Jamie.My son shot one a few years back that was 38# plus and that was on a digital scale twenty four hours after he was shot. Had to be real close to live weight 40#. Back in 82 or 83 we won the big coon contest at the fur buyer with one that went 32#. Just happened to be a guy in there with a pile of monsters from up by North Branch. We skinned the coon we won with and measured it against the coon from North Branch. He had twenty seven that measured bigger than the one we won with. Any one of them with the hide on would have taken the rifle away from us. My wifes uncle used to live up by North Branch and talked of fourty pounders and I thought bs till I seen with my own eyes and measured myself.North Branch ain't too far across the border from Nate. Just cause ya ain't seen it don't mean it can't be.


Posted by Maniac on 11-25-2010 04:28 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Jeff M.
Blckrivred,
Your post's are right on! I've been friends with a fur buyer for over thirty years and they have an ave. that they are determined to keep as you described perfectly. But it didn't help me from still feeling that they were taking advantage of us ol' coonhunters. But now after 6 years of sending my furs to nafa I got a whole new respect for the buyer. They have alot of overhead costs knives, stretcher's, labor to put up the coons plus heat and storage and every bullet hole, dog bite mark, etc cost you about 2 bucks each. And "SIZE MATTER'S" the Dakota's, Neb,Minn, Wis, Iowa, are the top coons in the sale. The smaller coons usually cost you money in the long run and i'm talking Northern IN small which is a biggun' for alot of southerner's.. but us great lake area cooner's will sneak a few biggun's in the top lots and usually you will double your ave. from what the local level guy is paying. I enjoy it and seeing how hard the fur's are graded on the world stage is an eye opener. You should do well on your MI coons just remember that every 10 cent hunk of lead you put in them will cost you 2$ and you'll be alright!! I recommend anyone who is unhappy with their buyer get out your fleshin' knife and stretcher's and take a gamble on the market yourself!! It will give you a whole new perspective on the fur business!! Happy Huntin'!! Jeff

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Posted by jodaviess1 on 11-26-2010 12:19 AM:

GROENWELD

HE BOUGHT EVERYTHING, 47 COON AT A$14.50 AVERAGE. SOLD 16 MORE YESTERDAY AT A $16.50 AVERAGE AND 5 OF THOSE BROUGHT $25.00 A PIECE. GUESS I CAN SCAN THE STUBS AND PUT IT ON HERE. P.S. DON'T THINK ANY WERE 30 POUNDERS. <v>

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Posted by bluecole on 11-26-2010 12:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by nate m
we carry a scale with us and not one under thirty one 48# one 45# talk about monsters
holy crap,my female weighs 54 lbs,i'd hate to kill a coon that was 7 lbs less weight than her what the heck do you kill em with,must take a .222 huntin with ya,lol


Posted by Phantom on 11-26-2010 01:12 AM:

quote:
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Originally posted by nate m
we carry a scale with us and not one under thirty one 48# one 45# talk about monsters
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Why do/would you carry a scale with you? Why not just weigh then when you get back home? Or do you weigh them before you shoot them so you know if they are what you want in weight or not?

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Posted by SamClark on 11-26-2010 08:16 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Phantom
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Why do/would you carry a scale with you? Why not just weigh then when you get back home? Or do you weigh them before you shoot them so you know if they are what you want in weight or not?



tree coon, flip dog loose and skin coon, wipe hands, repeat. Why carry home a carcass?

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Posted by Phantom on 11-26-2010 11:08 AM:

I carry home the whole coon because I have a few people that I sell the meat to.

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Posted by mpondr310 on 11-27-2010 12:36 AM:

I lived 30 miles north of Nate for 18 years and my old man still lives there. I've seen the coon he is talking about, but I find it awful hard to believe that there is that many of them.

Coon up there are far and few between. The bear baits are not getting hit by coon like they used to be. Perhaps he is traveling elsewhere to get his coon?


Posted by bandithunter on 11-27-2010 06:11 PM:

My bad deadeye, I thought he was in nw Wis. not ne. It takes a pretty fair dog to stop a really big one that decided he ain't gonna climb. That is why a lot of guys who live up here have never seen one close to that. My personal best is 36# and I hope to get a 40# before I'm done. There are more hogs in the north country but less coon over all.


Posted by MIKE-B on 11-28-2010 05:17 PM:

Sold some coon to Kishwaukee fur while i was in Illinois averaged $15.33

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Posted by jamie stall on 11-28-2010 06:43 PM:

what im saying is you might tree 1 maybe 2 but not 30 or whatever he said , i know better and so does everyone that has hunted for years


Posted by jamie stall on 11-28-2010 06:46 PM:

bandit hunter

this isnt my first rodeo im telling you he is full of **** .


Posted by Mike_Flores on 11-29-2010 12:40 AM:

You guys are all wrong! Fur, Fish, and Game said coon are all worth $40 a piece. This means if you bring 100 coon in to the buyer, he'll cut you a check for $4000. It's right there in plain english.


Posted by BLCKRIVREDBONES on 11-29-2010 02:22 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Flores
You guys are all wrong! Fur, Fish, and Game said coon are all worth $40 a piece. This means if you bring 100 coon in to the buyer, he'll cut you a check for $4000. It's right there in plain english.


Gotta love the "accurate" predictions in FFG! Top coon will go for $40 but it won't go to the furtakers it'll go to the fur brokers.


Posted by bandithunter on 11-29-2010 04:25 PM:

Jamie, before you pop a blood vein in the side of your head, I'm saying there are 40# coon, and they can be had, IF ya got enough dog to stop em. If I had six months to live and wanted to kill one before I die, I'd head north.


Posted by trappin_girl on 11-29-2010 05:07 PM:

depends as to if u put the coons up right or not... if u just skin em u are lucky to get 5 out of them... fleshed and stretched prime 1s are looking for 15-18 dollars but not holding a promising factuation. the kmarket has been fluctuating so its hard to tell.

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Posted by coonsmen on 11-29-2010 06:00 PM:

Re: GROENWELD

quote:
Originally posted by jodaviess1
HE BOUGHT EVERYTHING, 47 COON AT A$14.50 AVERAGE. SOLD 16 MORE YESTERDAY AT A $16.50 AVERAGE AND 5 OF THOSE BROUGHT $25.00 A PIECE. GUESS I CAN SCAN THE STUBS AND PUT IT ON HERE. P.S. DON'T THINK ANY WERE 30 POUNDERS. <v>


ARE THESE PUT UP OR GREEN?


Posted by davidlloyd on 11-29-2010 06:41 PM:

Talked to local fur buyer an amish man 10 to 15 for prime on the carcaus here in s/w michigan

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Posted by jodaviess1 on 11-29-2010 08:09 PM:

TOP N.W. ILLINOIS COON

I SELL ALL MY COON SKINNED, BURRS COMBED OUT AND EXCESS BLOOD WASHED OUT OF THEM.TOMMY DAY IS THE BUYER FROM GROENEWOLD THAT HAS BOUGHT MY COON FOR YEARS AND WALLY THAT TRAVELS WITH HIM AND WRITES THE CHECKS BOUGHT FOR YEARS BEFORE THAT. THEY KNOW THE TYPE OF COON WE KILL, THE NUMBERS WE HAVE BROUGHT THEM OVER THE YEARS AND THE WAY WE TAKE CARE OF OUR FUR. I'M MORE THAN SATIFIED THIS YEAR WITH WHAT THESE COON ARE BRINGING. <v>

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Posted by coonsmen on 11-29-2010 08:33 PM:

I've sold to them a few years past but haven't lately because their stops didn't work out with my schedule. I'm hoping I will be able to meet up with them dec 17 when they come through again. We will see.
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Posted by nate m on 11-30-2010 02:08 PM:

wow its ben a little bit sence i have ben on here but . i guess thats the kind of bs there is. no the bear baits arent hit that much. but the bow hunters are just slammed. and that corn realy.puts the wait on.if you cant tell a big from not its not that hard. i have one dog that well get me on average of 10 trees a nite. bores run together some trees dont have anything worth shooting. some have two three once and awhile more. on average ten a nite.

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Posted by trappin_girl on 11-30-2010 04:49 PM:

quote:
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Yes we do here!!! LOL
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that one woulda brought somehting if it didnt have a hole in its back. #2 automatically... 6-8 bucks is my guess

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Posted by dogingit on 12-02-2010 06:07 AM:

big coon

quote:
Originally posted by nate m
i sold 120 hides two weeks ago had a twentytwo doller average throught gruenwald
i live not far from him and i was hunting before he was walking and ive only seen 3 coon over 35 pounds biggest was 41 and ive hunted north to the mich line and as far south as wis illinois line and you might get 4 or 5 big ones in a season but not as many as he says groenewoldfirst time in the northern part of wis was nov 5 he was in clintonville and shawno and the tops where 25 and for most part 14 $ average sounds like nate m likes to stretch things a bit


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