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Posted by Bob Hennessey on 09-22-2010 08:29 PM:

I just found more on their web site. NZ based co. You can only track your dogs on the map with a lap top. I carry enough stuff in the woods don't think I want to carry my lap top too. LOL! Always a catch.

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Posted by cedarhillkennel on 09-22-2010 09:05 PM:

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I just found more on their web site. NZ based co. You can only track your dogs on the map with a lap top. I carry enough stuff in the woods don't think I want to carry my lap top too. LOL! Always a catch.

most of the guys over there dont use it as a gps to look what the dog is doing while hunting,they use the radio side of the system to track just like a beep beep then when the day is over they go back and look at things through out the day,but while hunting they hunt and save the looking at the screen for after the hunt

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Posted by cbcoonskinner on 09-22-2010 09:19 PM:

I'll bet there handlers are are more honest to the owners if they knew the owner was setting at home watching them dogs go from their personal computer. ( I guess they could always put it it on another dog though)

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Posted by Jim Hill on 09-22-2010 09:33 PM:

you guys better hope your wives dont see this lol

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Posted by Oak Ridge on 09-23-2010 02:17 AM:

The hold up is not the technology....shoot technology is abundant.

Here is the real issue. The Garmins operate by sending GPS coordinates of the collars back to the hand held. It does this via GMRS radio frequencies....no go buy the most expensive GMRS radios you can find....none of them are rated more than about a mile and a half.

So put a "stronger" radio in you say....well that is easy enough to do....HERE IS THE PROBLEM....

The FCC (Federal Communications Commission) will not allow for stronger radios to be used. They control the power and the available frequencies that can be broadcast without a license. There are also restrictions on transmitting GPS coordinates, and having a receiver (GPS) and a transmitter(collar) in the same device.

So you can blame Garmin, you can say that Marshall is dragging their feet...but the truth of the matter is that the government is standing in the way of progress....

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Posted by Okie Dawg on 09-23-2010 02:37 AM:

Easy fix, just get your ham radio license and send your dog out with a radio if you want more than garmin is giveing. LOL

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Posted by Rip on 09-23-2010 10:53 AM:

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So you can blame Garmin, you can say that Marshall is dragging their feet...but the truth of the matter is that the government is standing in the way of progress....


Yep, par for the course.

Leave it to the gubment to ruin things.

And it's gettin worse every day.

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Posted by cedarhillkennel on 09-23-2010 01:18 PM:

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Originally posted by Oak Ridge
The hold up is not the technology....shoot technology is abundant.

Here is the real issue. The Garmins operate by sending GPS coordinates of the collars back to the hand held. It does this via GMRS radio frequencies....no go buy the most expensive GMRS radios you can find....none of them are rated more than about a mile and a half.

So put a "stronger" radio in you say....well that is easy enough to do....HERE IS THE PROBLEM....

The FCC (Federal Communications Commission) will not allow for stronger radios to be used. They control the power and the available frequencies that can be broadcast without a license. There are also restrictions on transmitting GPS coordinates, and having a receiver (GPS) and a transmitter(collar) in the same
device.

So you can blame Garmin, you can say that Marshall is dragging their feet...but the truth of the matter is that the government is standing in the way of progress....




so what your saying is until the government lets these company's have "more juice" it aint gettin any better no matter how many updates there are,no matter how many diffrent collars or brands come out.if the "juice" aint there it they just aint gonna have any range. hmmm so no mater what they will never have the range of a beep beep......im not buying it..... a beep beep puts out a radio signal and its capable of getting out more than a mile or two. with jnson collar,quick track 6000 and homemade roof mount anttena i have tracked a deer hound as far away as 12.7 miles (confirmed) from the truck,why cant the two technologies be combined to get that kinda range out of a garmin

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Posted by Oak Ridge on 09-23-2010 03:29 PM:

Your "beep beep...is operating somewhere in the 154 to 220 Mhz...most likely between 216 and 220... They are different than the GMRS that is operating in the 462 to 467 Mhz. The physics are different.

You can not transmit "data" across the 462 to 467 Mhz legally in the united states.

I know a guy that makes tracking collars (beep beep). He made a prototype collar for use in Europe...in the 462 Mhz frequency range. He took a tracker, and altered it to recieve 462 Mhz.... He was getting 10 miles EASY with his collar.....until the FCC showed up and told him to "cease and desist"...Big brother is in the middle of this. You tell me how the FCC knew he was using that frequency for something other than what it was intended for?

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Posted by cedarhillkennel on 09-23-2010 03:51 PM:

ok i understand what your sayin joe.i just dont understand why they cant use the same frequncy the beep beeps use JUST to send signal from collar to hand held then go from there to establish a blip on a map from the satelite,maybe thats asking too much of the technology or the money it would take to that is not worth the effort.
anyhow as a deer hunter who's hounds routinley get out of garmins range,i have to say on a coon dog they are the greatest thing straped to a hound but on one of my deer hounds the garmin system dont make a pimple on the arse of my beep beep system

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