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Posted by wildbill on 07-21-2010 06:13 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Bill Thomas
Now here is somthing I can understand. Someone trying to get the old coondawgs back in the woods.I am looking for some of the Finley river, and Hillibilly mac. Did they ever get crossed??And can anyone tell me about it?


i used to have male that was a grandson of springcreek radar on top and grandson of hillbilly mac on bottom....
this cross produced too much nose,,these dogs could run a backtrack faster than a lot of todays weekend wonders could run one forward,if you didnt know what was going on ,you could do a lot of walking before they turned the track and went the right way,and they had enough mouth to drag an unexperenced pup with then also..

i've tryed to keep some finley river in the blood of my house bred walkers but havent seen what happens when you cross the hillbilly mac onto house blood,,

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Posted by wildbill on 07-21-2010 06:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by droopy_dog2004
Wildbill

Dang that is some old blood! That lil pup has stud dog written all over him if he makes it in the coonhuntin world. Which im sure he will.



thanks,
i was going to breed him to princess(2toes) but him only being 1 yr old ,i didnt want to take the chance of him wanting to hop on every dogs back when i took him hunting,he's doing good but ,i'm sure you know how much trouble it is to get a dogs head back on track when breeding a male too early,,i've got too many miles on this ol body to have to go thru that again,,lol,
he's too nice to have to keep tied up for stud only or to shoot right now,,
i bred princess to blaze and if she takes ,i'm thinking a female out of her crossed to buddy would work if they pass the" test of time"

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Posted by wildbill on 07-21-2010 10:11 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by droopy_dog2004
Wildbill

Dang that is some old blood! That lil pup has stud dog written all over him if he makes it in the coonhuntin world. Which im sure he will.



hers another pup i have,,was going to breed him to princess but he got gun shy when he started to get on her back,,

hes around 1 1/2 yrs old.i think he got lipper 4plus times maybe and a few other wantabe coondogs in there,,lol

his ped
........................grnitech'pr'hardwood patch
................grnitech'pr'laurel ck stylish bozo
........................nitech'pr'dolly's stylish queen
.......nitech'pr'mc coy's stylish bam bam
........................grnitech'pr'hard knockin stylish hayes
................nitech'pr'dendy's stylish millie
........................'pr'stylish annie
..'pr'delta's stylish prince
........................grnitech grch'pr'house's lipper
................grch grnitech'pr'lippers stylish rank
........................nitech'pr'stylish dolly
.......'pr'stylish queen
........................ch grnitech'pr'guess'hardwood maniac
................ch'pr'coal creek selena
........................'pr'finley river polly



bam bam is still alive and looking good at
don lesher jr's house

thanks don for selling me prince and roxy..

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Posted by wildbill on 07-21-2010 10:21 AM:

Re: Extremely Old Blooded Studs Out There?

quote:
Originally posted by droopy_dog2004
Im curious as to which studs are out there that have extremely old blood close behind them?


i got this old female here ,not sure what i want to or will be able to afford to breed her to,but she will be bred to something if she comes in heat,i was told her last litter she only had 2 pups and raised them ok..

i thinks she got some old blood in her,lol,,
what would you breed her to if you knew she might only have a couple pups.. ??

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Posted by droopy_dog2004 on 07-22-2010 07:56 PM:

I aint sure? I know she has some really good blood. Id try a Yadkin River stud or possibly a Flag/Bozo bred stud.

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Posted by BFK on 07-23-2010 12:34 AM:

Take look at this:

http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...threadid=363161


Posted by wildbill on 07-23-2010 07:52 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by BFK
Take look at this:

http://forums.ukcdogs.com/showthrea...threadid=363161



dat walkers got too many tick on him,,lol
but should make for some coondogs .

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Posted by Tyler Stroh on 07-23-2010 06:10 PM:

I have an old male dog that is directly out of STYLISH CLOVER,.

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Posted by Melanie H. on 07-24-2010 01:01 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by wildbill
hers another pup i have,,was going to breed him to princess but he got gun shy when he started to get on her back,,

hes around 1 1/2 yrs old.i think he got lipper 4plus times maybe and a few other wantabe coondogs in there,,lol

his ped
........................grnitech'pr'hardwood patch
................grnitech'pr'laurel ck stylish bozo
........................nitech'pr'dolly's stylish queen
.......nitech'pr'mc coy's stylish bam bam
........................grnitech'pr'hard knockin stylish hayes
................nitech'pr'dendy's stylish millie
........................'pr'stylish annie
..'pr'delta's stylish prince
........................grnitech grch'pr'house's lipper
................grch grnitech'pr'lippers stylish rank
........................nitech'pr'stylish dolly
.......'pr'stylish queen
........................ch grnitech'pr'guess'hardwood maniac
................ch'pr'coal creek selena
........................'pr'finley river polly



bam bam is still alive and looking good at
don lesher jr's house

thanks don for selling me prince and roxy..



I think you should just send him out to me this winter and let me ruin him by running him on bobcats

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Posted by wildbill on 07-25-2010 05:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ladycathunter
I think you should just send him out to me this winter and let me ruin him by running him on bobcats

we could get him started on cats here ,neighbor said their is a family of 5 living within 1 mile of here,,if your not doing anything just bring your cat dogs here for a vacation and we can give them a workout,,lol,,might do some kind of tradeing,lol,,may have some pups in sept from princess and maggie2 if they took,hope so''
saw cat tracks in the snow 5 feet from my front porch this winter and one was seen accross the road also..i dont think prince will fit under the seat of an airplane,,lol.,,did you get the pm i sent you..

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Posted by Melanie H. on 07-25-2010 05:20 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by wildbill
we could get him started on cats here ,neighbor said their is a family of 5 living within 1 mile of here,,if your not doing anything just bring your cat dogs here for a vacation and we can give them a workout,,lol,,might do some kind of tradeing,lol,,may have some pups in sept from princess and maggie2 if they took,hope so''
saw cat tracks in the snow 5 feet from my front porch this winter and one was seen accross the road also..i dont think prince will fit under the seat of an airplane,,lol.,,did you get the pm i sent you..



I got your pm.. Now if there are pups on the ground I'm trying to find someone to raise a puppy for me I just want it at hunting age We need a male out here to outcross my females out of my male on...

I've got more then 5 cats out here.. I can do a bunch more training out here.. In fact.. I change my mind.. Send me that Buddy dog instead

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Posted by idbowdude on 07-25-2010 05:41 PM:

Nice 2 year old female. There's a coulpe male out there from this cross.

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Posted by wildbill on 07-26-2010 12:56 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ladycathunter
I got your pm.. Now if there are pups on the ground I'm trying to find someone to raise a puppy for me I just want it at hunting age We need a male out here to outcross my females out of my male on...

I've got more then 5 cats out here.. I can do a bunch more training out here.. In fact.. I change my mind.. Send me that Buddy dog instead



typical woman always wanting the highgrade stuff

if i sent buddy out there and he got to liking cats,he might get into trouble,he dont let the grass grow under his feet and when he pairs with a dog that can help move a track ,,you better have a fast horse to keep up with them,,

got another little dog here called fullhouse trouble that will be in the same place 3 times before the other dogs have checked it once,,he makes a rollarcoaster seem slow,,he's out of old joe and a double lipper/hopkins cash /hardwoodbuster female,, .

hows the jobs out there? might be willing to relocate if i had a job that would feed me and the dogs,,lol.

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Posted by Melanie H. on 07-26-2010 02:25 AM:

Honestly.. the jobs suck out here.. unless you go to the Dakotas or WY where they are laying down pipeline..

Oh heck.. I haven't found anything that can outmove/outrun one of my dogs on track.. the only things that can keep up with them are the running dogs.. He would probably fit in pretty well then.. or Trouble sounds good..

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Posted by coonhunter5000 on 07-26-2010 02:49 AM:

are there any dogs out there that still have old mondo blood up close.

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Posted by wildbill on 07-26-2010 03:17 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ladycathunter
Honestly.. the jobs suck out here.. unless you go to the Dakotas or WY where they are laying down pipeline..

Oh heck.. I haven't found anything that can outmove/outrun one of my dogs on track.. the only things that can keep up with them are the running dogs.. He would probably fit in pretty well then.. or Trouble sounds good..



here's trouble's ped if you can read it,if not save it to your computer and open it then and inlarge it with the windows photo/fax reader..

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Posted by Melanie H. on 07-26-2010 05:21 AM:

Yeah I can read it.. I'm still leaning towards Buddy tho

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Posted by wildbill on 07-26-2010 09:39 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by ladycathunter
Yeah I can read it.. I'm still leaning towards Buddy tho


now what ped would you want to cross him on?

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Posted by Bill Thomas on 07-27-2010 01:16 AM:

wildbill & idbowdude

You fellas have some real impressive ped. I love them old dogs. I belive alot of breeding has gone to the $$$$$ and not for coondogs jmo.


Posted by Melanie H. on 07-27-2010 05:33 AM:

The pedigree is nothing but big game dogs for the last 6 generations or so.. Nobody did any tight breeding but they all were out of House/Finley River/Hershberger stuff..

I've got all these females related to my male and nothing to outcross on.. I want OLD blood for outcrossing.. then to bring back in..

But.. It is going to take the right dog.. These females are 6 yrs- 4yrs and then younger.. So.. I've got time... But I don't.. I've got to find that right old blood male that is worth my time and energy to add into what I'm stirring in my pot

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Posted by wildbill on 07-27-2010 06:24 AM:

Re: wildbill & idbowdude

quote:
Originally posted by Bill Thomas
You fellas have some real impressive ped. I love them old dogs. I belive alot of breeding has gone to the $$$$$ and not for coondogs jmo.


you got that right,but they say they arent,,lol

ladycathunter,whenever your ready to breed your females,let me know...
if you got a place out there where you can store frozen seman ,
we can get with galaxy to see what it'll cost to get some out to you..
i know leroy can store it here for you but if it was closer to you, it might be more convenent for you when you needed it..

buddy's just past 1 yr old and
prince is past 1 1/2 yrs ,
trouble is just turned 7 ,
blaze and hawk2 are batting close to 10(might not be good to freeze/maybe chilled),

so they should be primed up when you are ready ...

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Posted by Oak Ridge on 07-27-2010 04:06 PM:

This is OLD blood up close...

Jake is 11 years old...his sire was 14 years old when Jake was born!


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